AI Safety

yeti · 2024-06-30 06:55:54

thejuicemedia
Honest Government Ad | AI
https://piped.video/watch?v=TtVJ4JDM7eM

Still far too optimistic?

soren · 2024-06-30 07:42:35

yeti wrote:

thejuicemedia
Honest Government Ad | AI
https://piped.video/watch?v=TtVJ4JDM7eM
Still far too optimistic?

Who knows what these assholes have planned. Do you watch the why files ? The last episode was a good one regarding DARPA. Technology in the mainstream is usually lagging behind anything the 3 letter agencies already have.

"The Dark Side of DARPA | The Human Cost of Technological Supremacy"
https://piped.video/watch?v=zo68B3UG9VU

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yeti · 2024-06-30 19:14:36

Do you watch the why files ?

Only when it is necessary for a reply.

Technology in the mainstream is usually lagging behind anything the 3 letter agencies already have.

War always has been the driving factor in development of technology.

The cost finally will be to lose humanity by either converging with technology to transhumans or by being replaced by AI. This will solve no problems, as transhumans and/or "AI life" still will need to compete for resources and so I'm heavily convinced that only war will be the permanent survivor, just the players on the battlefield of life will get upgraded sometimes.

1. Hitchhiker 30: (6) "No," said the old man, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that."

yeti · 2024-06-30 19:41:18

Sabine Hossenfelder
AI passed the Turing Test -- And No One Noticed
https://piped.video/watch?v=GyNaH27lX90

- no comment -

soren · 2024-07-08 01:39:16

quote from https://authorsguild.org/news/ai-drivin … on-amazon/

AI Is Fueling Scam Book Production
Based on the complaints we have received, summaries, workbooks, and guides appear to be the category most commonly exploited by the scammers. Low-quality works like these have long been a problem on Amazon because it is easy to piggyback on the success of legitimate titles and sell “companion” books. Fair use case law has found that “companion” books that have a great deal of analysis and commentary and do not take too much from the original work are fair use, so Amazon allows many of them to remain on the site. A few years ago, the Authors Guild, recognizing the impact these books can have on legitimate sales, convinced Amazon to require sellers of summary books to include a conspicuous disclaimer on the listing page and cover, disclosing that the book is a summary or guide and not a substitute for the original work.

zapper · 2024-07-12 07:04:09

@aluma in any case, I see it differently than you both. Btw, more on topic, AI is a bad idea for these corporate giants to seek:

https://disconnect.blog/generative-ai-i … -disaster/

This is a good reason to tell Bill Gates and other rich a-holes to bleep off and humble themselves till they realize how insignificant they really are,

And that is putting it mildly, they should be in jail for all the corrupt stuff they do surveillance -wise at minimum. but its much worse than just that solely.

In any case, that's all I have to say at minimum.

pl · 2024-07-12 11:22:04

I wonder why yall waste time on all of this... Plus wasting world resources and even more of your time on platform which belongs to one of that Artifical Bullshit corpocrap, Google (Yeah I know it's proxied et al, but it's still traffic to it, ain't it?)
People were, are and will pursuit for dooming themselves. Nihil novi.
Ye can do really nothing here, no matter what. Live and do for yourself and livings / things that make this world a bit (or much?) better. Let rest of the world burn if it really wants so

zapper wrote:

And that is putting it mildly, they should be in jail for all the corrupt stuff they do surveillance -wise at minimum. but its much worse than just that solely.

By the way, "health trail" as bare minimum!

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zapper · 2024-07-19 21:53:33

@pl that is not their prerogative if it destroys the environment for everyone and enables fascism to be more widespread.

Would you want all the new surveillance to be controlled by a fascist?

Imagine how tight Hitler's grip would have been if he had modern surveillance...

Let that sink in.

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golinux · 2024-07-19 22:08:01

@zapper . . . seems you're having a bad day . . . The movie in your head is the movie in YOUR head and obviously stressing you. Please take a deep breath and change the channel you're watching . . .

@pl . . . ditto

zapper · 2024-07-19 22:19:54

@golinux nah its more I just was a bit pissed off. Not as much anymore. I just didn't think probably enough.

I replied to your last comment though.

yeti · 2024-07-20 08:46:00

Prof Simon Holland
The strange tale of a.i. and Radar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjZocX4BL8

Doubleplus scary.

yeti · 2024-09-18 20:27:01

Fraser Cain
& Guest: Dr. Roman Yampolskiy
Should We Slow Down AI Progress?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4M3Q_P2xP4

JWM-Kit · 2024-09-18 20:55:37

The Honest Government Ad | AI would be a lot funnier if it wasn't for the profanity. Not that I'm sensitive to it, I just think it makes it less funny. I wish comedians would learn that profanity isn't funny . . . OK, sometimes it is funny, because you don't expect it or it's relatable, or on a rare chance creative. Most of the time It just seems to be the results of the lack of creativity.

stopAI · 2024-09-19 11:28:18

The best way to deal with AI safety is disable AI completely. if humanity wants to survive, there is no other way to avoid danger. Unfortunately...

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yeti · 2024-09-19 11:31:31

stopAI wrote:

The best way to deal with AI safety is disable AI completely.

You safely can bet on [Horror Sapiens]'s greed, so shit definitely always will happen.

JWM-Kit · 2024-09-19 12:00:28

You can't stop advancement. It's a race, but the more that it is developed in the open with an FOSS license the better. If it's not for everyone it will be abused.

yeti · 2024-09-19 12:31:25

JWM-Kit wrote:

It's a race, but the more that it is developed in the open with an FOSS license the better.

Then being shot by a 3D-printed gun from free and open plans is less harmful. That'll make death really more free experience! \o/

JWM-Kit · 2024-09-19 13:02:36

I'll not follow up on the 3d gun analogy I do have a rebuttal, but don't want to make this thread about guns, or gun control.

My point is not that the danger doesn't exist. We can't stop it, but ensuring that the technology is free and open to everyone will level the playing field.

yeti · 2024-09-19 13:08:03

JWM-Kit wrote:

My point is not that the danger doesn't exist. We can't stop it, but ensuring that the technology is free and open to everyone will level the playing field.

Levelled?
Like "only a good one with an AI can stop a bad one abusing AI"?
I do not buy that!

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JWM-Kit · 2024-09-19 13:49:09

OK so let's just not make any effort and just let it all be completely proprietary and controlled by the big corps and the government. I really only see the 2 options: FOSS or private controlled. As I said you can't stop it. Or is this just about complaining? Gloom and despair the worlds gonna end.

My point is not that it's a good situation. Just that we should at the very least go down fighting.

. . . and maybe I should of said "help level" which was what I meant.

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golinux · 2024-09-19 14:24:15

Stupidity has been the driving force of human history. Expecting humans to behave otherwise is fantasy.

quickfur · 2024-09-19 15:18:20

Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · 2024-09-19 15:23:27

today's AI is certainly not the _same_ as grandma's AI, but it's not all that different either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II

also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

perhaps we will need to add pagers and walkie-talkies to the Ottawa Treaty...

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135252

additional references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-personnel_mine#See_also

https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/09/17/1721229/exploding-pagers-injure-thousands-across-lebanon

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/09/14-dead-as-hezbollah-walkie-talkies-explode-in-second-deadlier-attack/

oh the humanity...indeed...

stopAI · 2024-09-19 15:43:01

You safely can bet on [Horror Sapiens]'s greed, so shit definitely always will happen.

I agree.

yeti · 2024-10-02 19:33:12

A bit AI related:

Sabine Hossenfelder
New Theory of Consciousness Explains Why Zombies Don’t Exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kolJoTf-Ew

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