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#1 2022-12-03 19:46:04

deepforest
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I am tired from Ceres glitches

Isues:
-no network after booting
-no devices in thunar after booting
-nvidia driver installation issue
and many others...

PS i am On Ceres and runit

Can i without reinstalling move back to stable Devuan? But I'm not sure that this will solve all these problems...

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#2 2022-12-03 20:56:22

golinux
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Why are you beating yourself in the head with hammer by using an unstable release? If you want things to "just work", use the current stable release, Chimaera.

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#3 2022-12-03 21:10:35

deepforest
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Can i migrate now from unstabe to stable without reinstalling?

approve that is all ONLY unstable issues?!

Last edited by deepforest (2022-12-03 21:11:39)

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#4 2022-12-03 21:15:39

delgado
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Hi,
changing the release is always the same.

edit /etc/apt/sources.list - replace ceres with chimaera

apt update
apt upgrade
apt dist-upgrade 

To downgrade or make apt install older packages over newer:

cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release n=chimaera
Pin-Priority: 1001

I messed the file up here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5208
apt -s whatever does a dry run.

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#5 2022-12-03 21:28:11

deepforest
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Thanks!
I hear that i can do only UPgrade distro, but DOWNgrade can cause many issues

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#6 2022-12-03 21:44:09

golinux
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Why not just start from scratch with a fresh install?

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#7 2022-12-03 21:55:57

Devarch
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

deepforest wrote:

Thanks!
I hear that i can do only UPgrade distro, but DOWNgrade can cause many issues

Yes
Sometimes some config files etc are not the same. You can finish with broken system.

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#8 2022-12-03 22:20:46

delgado
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

Worst case is a new installation ... . Anyway.

Probably you want to migrate to daedalus?
It is closer to ceres.

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#9 2022-12-03 23:36:57

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

delgado wrote:

Worst case is a new installation ... . Anyway.

Probably you want to migrate to daedalus?
It is closer to ceres.

FWIW, I have zero issues with daedalus - been using it for some time. (I use MATE)

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#10 2022-12-03 23:44:30

deepforest
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

golinux wrote:

Why not just start from scratch with a fresh install?

Because root and home partitions on same disk. Home folder use almost 90% of this disk and i have very many installed and compiled software that i do not want to loose or starting installing or compiling from scratch.

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#11 2022-12-03 23:51:03

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

delgado wrote:

Worst case is a new installation ... . Anyway.

Probably you want to migrate to daedalus?
It is closer to ceres.

why mean daedalus/ceres for me?

i have only one repo

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main contrib non-free
freeartist@devuan:~$ neofetch
   ..,,;;;::;,..                   freeartist@devuan 
           `':ddd;:,.              ----------------- 
                 `'dPPd:,.         OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres) x86_64 
                     `:b$$b`.      Host: P31-DS3L 
                        'P$$$d`    Kernel: 6.0.0-5-amd64 
                         .$$$$$`   Uptime: 4 hours, 36 mins 
                         ;$$$$$P   Packages: 3248 (dpkg), 16 (flatpak) 
                      .:P$$$$$$`   Shell: bash 5.2.2 
                  .,:b$$$$$$$;'    Resolution: 1920x1080 
             .,:dP$$$$$$$$b:'      DE: Xfce 4.16 
      .,:;db$$$$$$$$$$Pd'`         WM: Xfwm4 
 ,db$$$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`             WM Theme: Arc 
:$$$$$$$$$$$$b:'`                  Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
 `$$$$$bd:''`                      Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
   `'''`                           Terminal: mc 
                                   CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4) @ 2.400GHz 
                                   GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ 
                                   Memory: 2149MiB / 3927MiB 
freeartist@devuan:~$ 

Last edited by deepforest (2022-12-03 23:57:33)

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#12 2022-12-04 10:34:54

delgado
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

I'm happily running deadalus, repo is

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free

The output of neofetch regarding OS, Kernel and Shell is equal.

Not exactly sure about the OS name "daedalus/ceres".
Packages are tested in ceres, before integrated in daedalus.

(edit: typo)

Last edited by delgado (2022-12-04 10:37:34)

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#13 2022-12-04 10:57:21

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

delgado wrote:

Not exactly sure about the OS name "daedalus/ceres"

That is taken from /etc/os-release, which is provided by the base-files package. That line always lists either stable or testing/unstable (by names), it never distinguishes between the development branches.

EDIT: one of the reasons for this is that most experienced users of the development branches will have both testing and unstable in their sources (and perhaps even stable as well), with the appropriate pinning.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-12-04 10:59:40)


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#14 2022-12-04 20:08:53

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

still on ceres and runit. still can boot, still got network, still got all devices.. (no nvidia sh*t).

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#15 2022-12-04 20:11:14

deepforest
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

xinomilo wrote:

still on ceres and runit. still can boot, still got network, still got all devices.. (no nvidia sh*t).

and what gives runit compare to sysv?

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#16 2022-12-04 20:14:27

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

offtopic.

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#17 2022-12-04 21:55:58

deepforest
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

no, explain please, feel free its my topic smile

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#18 2022-12-05 16:21:01

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

deepforest wrote:

its my topic

Not really. These boards are a community resource so please treat them as such. Thanks.

Ideally each thread should have a clear title describing a single problem. This helps other users who may encounter that same problem and makes it easy to find with the forum's Search feature.

Threads like this with a vague, meaningless title and no clear aim are more or less useless to everybody. Only experienced users should run the development branches, everyone else should run the stable release. "Glitches" are to be expected when running unstable because the whole point is to fix them before they make it to stable.


“Et ignotas animum dimittit in artes.” — Ovid, Metamorphoses, VIII, 18.

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#19 2022-12-05 20:12:45

aluma
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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

deepforest wrote:
golinux wrote:

Why not just start from scratch with a fresh install?

Because root and home partitions on same disk... .

It's called "stepping on your own tail" smile
The two "/" partitions, the /home and swap partitions allow for many more options.
On one, a stable release for all cases, on the other, roling for experiments.
This is from my own experience.

Last edited by aluma (2022-12-05 20:13:30)

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#20 2022-12-05 20:43:04

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Re: I am tired from Ceres glitches

I like to use btrfs so I can have an unlimited number of root & /home subvolumes in the same partition. And the snapshots really help with a development branch — set up automatic snapshots before every update and just rollback if there are any problems.


“Et ignotas animum dimittit in artes.” — Ovid, Metamorphoses, VIII, 18.

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