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#76 2021-04-14 20:18:43

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Re: Minimalism Tips

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#77 2021-04-14 20:20:51

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Re: Minimalism Tips

andyprough wrote:

Do not use bloated gui web browsers. If you can't do it with elinks or links2, you probably didn't need to do it anyway.

The problem with this approach is, however, that, generally, “text-only” Web browsers can merely present a poor version of a Web page because they can't even really render HTML in a meaningful way.

The reason is simple: WWW is not only a hypertext system, but also a rich text system, which yields quite a few advantages in terms of document structure and readability: Headings of different levels have different font sizes and block spacing. You can use a non-monospaced type face for regular text and reserve monospaced text for where it really matters (e.g., code blocks). You can use bold and italic fonts for emphasis, just like in print. And so on…

This collides quite fundamentally with the capabilities of an output device that follows the model of a character cell display for plain text (ye olde terminal emulator).

Just compare the rendering of this very page in Elinks to that in any half-way capable graphical Web browser.

An interesting, not-really-GUI, and arguably bloat-free browser that tries to address this problem is Links, by the way, which offers a “graphics mode” that doesn't even depend on X.

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#78 2021-04-14 21:19:08

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Re: Minimalism Tips

msi wrote:

Just compare the rendering of this very page in Elinks to that in any half-way capable graphical Web browser.

Looks fine to me - I'm responding to you from elinks, no problem whatsoever.


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#79 2021-04-15 13:57:20

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Any web page that doesn't render reasonably in a terminal-based web browser is fundamentally broken IMO.

The UK government website is tested with elinks and so is perfectly usable in all browsers.


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#80 2021-04-15 14:17:30

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Any web page that doesn't render reasonably in a terminal-based web browser is fundamentally broken IMO.

The UK government website is tested with elinks and so is perfectly usable in all browsers.

even when you need to log in to services?

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#81 2021-04-15 14:44:24

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Re: Minimalism Tips

I've never tried to log in to a government website but it certainly renders well in text browsers.


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#82 2021-04-15 20:09:52

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Re: Minimalism Tips

...all of you sissies using web browsers. You're just opening yourselves up to all kinds of trouble...

Oh. Wait. yikes  tongue


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#83 2021-04-15 21:56:32

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Re: Minimalism Tips

“Unfortunately, I can't even give the Web browser the flat tire award…” -- Alan Kay, “Normal” Considered Harmful (Browser talk starts at 16:00.)

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#84 2021-06-15 04:17:43

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Ogis1975 wrote:

Do not use bloated window managers. Just use dwm smile

Or you could use JWM which is also very minimal. 

wink

i3-wm has a bit of bloat, but nowhere near as much as fluxbox or openbox or blackbox. tongue


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#85 2021-06-15 04:19:33

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Re: Minimalism Tips

anticapitalista wrote:

For flac - via sox

3.7 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   4.9 MiB	play
play 10-That\'s\ When\ I\ Reach\ For\ My\ Revolver.flac

That does use very little cpu power, interesting...

Better than moc, ffplay and aplay, which didn't work when I used it, only gave me static lol.


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#86 2021-06-15 09:05:56

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Re: Minimalism Tips

"Minimalism" -  is that which allows you to do what you want with the least amount of fuss - not necessarily the absolute smallest program.... tongue

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#87 2021-06-16 20:40:28

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Camtaf wrote:

"Minimalism" -  is that which allows you to do what you want with the least amount of fuss - not necessarily the absolute smallest program.... tongue

Heh, if thats true, for audio, I would choose moc. tongue


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#88 2021-06-17 09:28:34

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Normally, I'll use xmms in a GUI, & just mc/mpg123 in the CLI.... smile

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#89 2021-06-17 13:19:22

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Camtaf wrote:

Normally, I'll use xmms in a GUI, & just mc/mpg123 in the CLI.... smile

It seems quite a few seem to be requesting the good old X MultiMedia System after it disappeared from Debian smile


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#90 2021-06-19 13:09:36

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Re: Minimalism Tips

Ogis1975 wrote:
Camtaf wrote:

Normally, I'll use xmms in a GUI, & just mc/mpg123 in the CLI.... smile

It seems quite a few seem to be requesting the good old X MultiMedia System after it disappeared from Debian smile

I have never used xmms, so I don't even know how to use it. wink


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#91 2021-11-08 20:43:29

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Re: Minimalism Tips

exiftool -alldates= -gpsdatestamp= -gpstimestamp= foo.jpg

Using it for deleting date metadata each time i upload a photo to flickr .

Otherwise, i am a heavy kde user - though sometimes i am using mc, moc, htop, nano, plocate. speed-cli or even logging to my openbox session.

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