root-Terminal on Beowulf

rolfie · 2019-02-08 21:19:49

My VM with Beowulf amd64/Mate/lightdm/elogind is working now.

What I am missing is a way to create a direct menu path to a root terminal as I had up to ASCII. Was simply done by creating a new menu entry with the command line gksu mate-terminal. Now gksu has been dropped. What would be the replacement? I tried with pkexec mate-terminal instead, am asked to enter the root-PW and nothing else happens.

I consider opening a user terminal and to use su - instead just as a workaround. su has a srewed default path and is unusable.

Suggestions?

Thanks, Rolf

golinux · 2019-02-08 22:05:03

gksu has been deprecated as you noted. Use pkexec. Discussion here. I can now launch from panel and to custom actions. Bit of a pain though . . .

Also a recent update overwrote my working policykit backend. Make sure the debian one hasn't slipped in.

rolfie · 2019-02-09 15:28:45

I have looked at the thread, and analysed what I have here.

The policykit stuff I have is version 0.105-25, seems to be complete. As authentification agent the package polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1 is installed.

# apt list policykit* --installed
Auflistung... Fertig
policykit-1/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch] 

# apt list libpolkit* --installed
Auflistung... Fertig
libpolkit-agent-1-0/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-backend-1-0/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 all  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-gobject-1-0/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 all  [Installiert,automatisch]
libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0/testing,now 0.105-25+devuan1 amd64  [Installiert,automatisch]

Maybe I need to give the version 0.105-18 a try. Other ideas?

Thanks, Rolf

rolfie · 2019-02-09 16:12:56

Update: after adding a policy-file, mate-terminal as root is opened. Geany can be used.

Question remains if this is a good path setting for a root terminal?

echo $PATH
/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/root/bin

Next step: see how mate-system-log is doing.
Update: works after adding another policy.

Thanks, Rolf

Last edited by rolfie (2019-02-09 16:31:30)

fsmithred · 2019-02-09 18:47:21

Root's path in ascii and jessie was this. If you don't have anything in /usr/local/ the path you're using is fine.

/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

I added the following line to /root/.bashrc and now I can get root with 'su' and still run commands in *sbin and still open graphical apps on user desktop and still be in the same directory. I don't know the reason they changed it, but it certainly got in the way of my workflow.

export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"

golinux · 2019-02-09 18:53:54

fsmithred wrote:

I don't know the reason they changed it, but it certainly got in the way of my workflow.

Wasn't that due to the merged /usr in stretch/beowulf?

fsmithred · 2019-02-09 19:44:40

golinux wrote:

fsmithred wrote:
I don't know the reason they changed it, but it certainly got in the way of my workflow.
Wasn't that due to the merged /usr in stretch/beowulf?

I don't think so. If it were due to that, I'd expect /usr/sbin/ to be in the path, but all the sbins are gone when you get root with 'su'. If you use 'su -' instead, you get the sbins in your path, but then your working directory changes to /root and you can't run a graphical app in the user's desktop.

fsmithred · 2019-10-08 14:13:39

The change in behavior of su is due to moving login from the shadow package to util-linux.

To revert to the old behavior:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16456#p16456

util-linux: Please use login/passwd implementations provided by util-linux
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=833256

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-10-08 14:44:50

For a "root terminal" menu entry that does not need either gksu or polkit see the EDIT at the bottom of this post:

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 34#p521734

^ That opens a terminal emulator under normal privileges and then runs sudo -i to attain a root shell without exposing the graphical interface.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2019-10-08 14:45:49)

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