Which installer should I use?

roluan17 · 2019-04-03 09:32:08

hi,

rather new here ;-)

I run an old machine:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz

any suggestions which netinst I should use to get devuan?

thanks

golinux · 2019-04-03 09:47:38

roluan17 wrote:

hi,
any suggestions which netinst I should use to get devuan?
thanks

Have you seen the descriptions of the isos on the homepage of devuan.org ?

Panopticon · 2019-04-03 11:40:26

^ navigation to the net install iso might be confusing? There is only two iso's, amd64 and i386 (32bit and 64bit). For that system looks maybe 64 bit.

Random mirror....

https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devu … aller-iso/

PedroReina · 2019-04-03 14:46:24

roluan17 wrote:

I run an old machine: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz

My laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2 GHz run Devuan ASCII 64 bits very happily. I hope that yours works as fine as mine.

Nili · 2019-04-03 15:06:38

I have more older in use, Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2180 @ 2.00GHz. In your case i would prefer x64, if you're not happy with results watch out the other option.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-03 19:13:25

The amd64 version should always be preferred (if the hardware supports it) because of the security advantage conferred by the NX bit and also a 32-bit system will not take advantage of the extra registers offered by the 64-bit CPU.

32-bit systems are limited to 4GiB of memory (regardless of PAE) but I am presuming that your machine doesn't have more than that.

ToxicExMachina · 2019-04-04 05:00:45

You can use any installer you want. 64-bit is better because recent versions of software are designed for it.

golinux · 2019-04-04 10:29:48

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

32-bit systems are limited to 4GiB of memory (regardless of PAE) but I am presuming that your machine doesn't have more than that.

Hmmm . . . I just went to 8gb of memory on a 32bit pae kernel and it often shows more than 4gb in use. Will have to keep an eye on that when I get home.

Panopticon · 2019-04-04 10:41:09

^ I was of the thought 32bit i386 meant you could only use upto 3GB of ram and no more? But i may be referencing old Windblows systems back ten or more years ago when i had 4 GB of memory and it would not use all of it or would not show up.

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PedroReina · 2019-04-04 14:52:17

Panopticon wrote:

^ I was of the thought 32bit i386 meant you could only use upto 3GB of ram and no more? But i may be referencing old Windblows systems

That. MS Windows 32 bits had this limitation. UNIX-like systems dont.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-04 16:36:07

golinux wrote:

I just went to 8gb of memory on a 32bit pae kernel and it often shows more than 4gb in use.

I tried a 32-bit VM with 6GiB assigned and I couldn't get over 4GiB used but I didn't try very hard and I only have 4GiB machines available now so I can't test again.

According to Linus it is possible to use more than 4GiB with multiple applications running but they don't work very well (see the link I provided).

PedroReina wrote:

MS Windows 32 bits had this limitation

Some 32-bit versions of Windows can use PAE as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_ … ft_Windows

But anyway, a 32-bit operating system will be less secure and will run slower than the 64-bit alternative so there really is no reason to choose that for a 64-bit capable processor.

roluan17 · 2019-04-09 14:14:04

hi,

sorry for the late answer.
My question (more verbose)
Is it more use to take:
devuan_ascii_2.0.0_i386_netinst.iso
or should I take :
devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst.iso

Anyway, I am experiencing some hardware difficulties ...
I thought it was just the hard disk, but its not yet clear, what more is all in trouble.

So any answer to the following topics are very welcome.

My machine starts for a second, shuts down again and starts a second time, after that procedure ist runs stable ==> motherboard?
Is there a way to test a motherboard?

Is there a way to test my CD-ROM drive?

RAM?

All components are a little older, I know, but before I throw it away ...
thanks in advance.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2019-04-09 17:41:27

roluan17 wrote:

devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst.iso

^ I think you should use this image rather than the i386 version, for the reasons I have already listed.

roluan17 wrote:

My machine starts for a second, shuts down again and starts a second time, after that procedure ist runs stable

Sounds like that may be a power supply problem, is there anything in the logs?

You can test the RAM with memtester.

Some ISO images have memtest86+ as a boot option (if started in non-UEFI mode).

roluan17 · 2019-04-09 19:45:40

I took the amd64_netinst.iso.

Thanks a lot.
Everything seems fine.
(Except the loading procedure).
Which logs should I look up (no log expert)?

rolfie · 2019-04-09 19:56:40

It may be worth replacing the CMOS battery, if the PC has been sitting off for a while. That can contribute to such a behaviour.

Rolf

Leo · 2019-04-10 21:10:33

Well, if the CMOS battery is dead, you'd usually see a warning when starting the PC that default values are loaded. And of course the time settings wouldn't be preserved. You can check that if you set the time in BIOS or OS, switch off the PC and disconnect your power source. let it sit some time, give it power again and turn it on. If the date & time is lost, it's the battery. But these batteries are pretty durable, they easily last around 10 years in my experience... I've had more trouble with HP SAS controller batteries in servers, they seem to have a much shorter lifespan.

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