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#1 2022-08-19 17:21:15

kapqa
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(jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

Hello,

on an older ocmputer upgraded from Jessie Devuan to Beowulf

now i wanted to install ProtonVPN manually,
https://protonvpn.com/support/linux-openvpn/

and found out that the Network icon (Ethernet) is missing in the Panel-Bar.
Adding New Items to Panel does not yield, since there is no Network Manager Item there, only Wavelan and Network Monitor.

Also i seem to miss any Network entries in "Settings" and "Settings Manager".


Maybe i am missing the appropriate Package?




the network seems to function just fine over Ethernet.


Please someone help me out,


Thanks.

Last edited by kapqa (2022-08-19 17:24:18)

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#2 2022-08-19 21:59:58

fsmithred
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

The default network manager in jessie, ascii and beowulf was wicd. I don't know why that's missing for you. In Beowulf, you could use network-manager or connman instead if you want.

Install either wicd or network-manager-gnome. I think that either one of those will get put into your desktop startup apps automatically.

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#3 2022-08-19 22:31:04

golinux
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

@fsmithred . . . The OP didn't say whether the upgrade went directly from jessie to beowulf or whether it went through ascii (which I believe is recommended). Would that make a difference?

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#4 2022-08-20 08:24:01

kapqa
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

yes, i went through ascii;
network-manager-gnome seems not installable; maybe i had used "deb-multimedia-repository" previously on jessie, might have made confusion.
thanks for the suggestions, will report later.

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#5 2022-08-26 14:32:48

kapqa
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

well, thanks, after installing wicd, i have the network icon (wicd-manager i suppose) in the panel,
but after every reboot, or startup, there is no internet;
i then need to manually "disconnect" and "connect" throught the wicd network manager.


sudo apt install network-manager
[sudo] password for rich: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd
 sudo apt install network-manager-gnome
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager-gnome : Depends: network-manager (>= 1.8) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages

as said before, network manager, seems not installable on this instance of beowulf.

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#6 2022-09-23 19:33:47

kapqa
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

hello,

would be glad if someone could give me additional advice:

on a upgrade from devuan jessie to ascii have a working installation on laptop;

however, would like to use "protonvpn" , and since devuan ascii based on Debian 9, it would have to be installed manually.

followed this guide here
https://protonvpn.com/support/linux-openvpn/

which on point nr.1 says to install

sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome

which i did , and it installed quite some packages, but upon reboot , i lost my "wicd" applet in the panel,
and there is nowhere to be seen any network settings, neither in "Settings" nor in "Settings Manager";

This on Devuan Ascii 2.0, running XFCE4.

Please let me know how i can manage the Network settings on XFCE4 , and possibly add an OpenVPN connection.

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#7 2022-09-23 21:19:52

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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

You have replaced wicd with network-manager. You should probably make sure that all the wicd packages have been removed. I'm assuming that network-manager-gnome works properly in ascii. I don't recall if there are problems with that or not or if we forked that package. I know it works in beowulf and chimaera.

From the Applications menu, go to
Settings -> Session and Startup -> Application Autostart
Check the box for Network. That will put the network-manager applet in the system tray.

If n-m does not work in ascii, there's connman which also supports vpn.

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#8 Today 13:18:15

kapqa
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

hello,

infacto, wicd has not been removed, and is still enabled in "application autostart" , but not seen as widget in panel (nor add-able as item as such, only network items to be added to panel are "network monitor" and "wavelan".

shoud i remove it?
there is however, no other "network" box that i could tick instead that i am aware of (see screenshot)

https://ibb.co/zV9MDRz
thanks

EDIT: forgot to add that i have also installed "MATE Desktop" but it is not started/run; everything concerning xfce4;
installed also "connman", but there is no "network" entry in system settings to be seen.

https://ibb.co/G0qZBBD

EDIT2: removing wicd yielded error

rich@rich-CELSIUS-H270:~/Programs/Geekbench-5.4.5-Linux$ sudo apt purge wicd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python-glade2 python-gobject python-notify python-wicd rfkill wicd-daemon
  wicd-gtk
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  wicd*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 35.8 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
(Reading database ... 219242 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wicd (1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1) ...
rich@rich-CELSIUS-H270:~/Programs/Geekbench-5.4.5-Linux$ sudo apt autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  python-glade2 python-gobject python-notify python-wicd rfkill wicd-daemon
  wicd-gtk
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 2,309 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
(Reading database ... 219234 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wicd-gtk (1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1) ...
  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63
    except (IOError, OSError), e:
                             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dpkg: error processing package wicd-gtk (--remove):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/pycompile", line 35, in <module>
    from debpython.version import SUPPORTED, debsorted, vrepr, \
  File "/usr/share/python/debpython/version.py", line 24, in <module>
    from ConfigParser import SafeConfigParser
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Removing python-notify (0.1.1-4) ...
  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63
    except (IOError, OSError), e:
                             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dpkg: error processing package python-notify (--remove):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Removing rfkill (0.5-1+b1) ...
dpkg: python-gobject: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
 wicd-daemon depends on python-gobject; however:
  Package python-gobject is to be removed.

Removing python-gobject (3.22.0-2) ...
dpkg: python-wicd: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
 wicd-daemon depends on python-wicd (= 1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1); however:
  Package python-wicd is to be removed.

Removing python-wicd (1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1) ...
  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63
    except (IOError, OSError), e:
                             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dpkg: error processing package python-wicd (--remove):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: python-glade2: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
 wicd-gtk depends on python-glade2.

Removing python-glade2 (2.24.0-5.1) ...
dpkg: wicd-daemon: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
 wicd-gtk depends on wicd-daemon (= 1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1); however:
  Package wicd-daemon is to be removed.

Removing wicd-daemon (1.7.4+tb2-4+devuan1) ...
[ ok ] Stopping Network connection manager: wicd.
  File "/usr/bin/pyclean", line 63
    except (IOError, OSError), e:
                             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
dpkg: error processing package wicd-daemon (--remove):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wicd-gtk
 python-notify
 python-wicd
 wicd-daemon
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
rich@rich-CELSIUS-H270:~/Programs/Geekbench-5.4.5-Linux$ 

Last edited by kapqa (Today 13:38:16)

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#9 Today 15:12:21

fsmithred
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Re: (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs

I don't know why you're having problems removing wicd. Maybe try removing all the parts instead of just the metapackage.

I do know that you should only have one of those network gui programs installed. If you want to use connman, then remove all of wicd and all of network-manager. You'll have to make your own entry for connman in the startup program list. Tie it to connman-ui-gtk or connman-gtk-ui (whichever is the correct command.)

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