chimaera update firefox broken/ linux-image not updated

mclien · 2021-12-31 14:04:50

I just did an routinely update of my chimaera installation.
(running fluxbox).

Firefox (91.4.1esr) is now missing the window frame, so it can't be moved nor resized. Additionally any popup window like the "about-version" will stay on top and won't be closable. Any fix for that?
(I'm open for any browser alternative now, too, since that is kinda one annoyance too much)

Also linux-image-amd64 is marked as "kept back" after the update (and reboot) as the only package.

Last edited by mclien (2021-12-31 16:14:56)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-12-31 17:15:34

Please post the output of

apt policy

mclien · 2021-12-31 17:17:49

Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=chimaera-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] chimaera/main amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-12-31 17:45:34

Those sources seem fine.

What happens when you run

# apt update
# apt full-upgrade

If there are any problems with the second command post the output here in full. Please use code tags when posting terminal output (as I have above), they greatly aid readability.

EDIT: hold on, where's your chimaera-updates?

You should have this line in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates  main contrib non-free

If it's not there add it and apt update && apt upgrade again.

EDIT2: and you should probably also add contrib non-free to the chimaera-security line, just in case.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2021-12-31 18:20:53)

golinux · 2021-12-31 18:27:37

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Please use code tags when posting terminal output (as I have above), they greatly aid readability.

Your wish is my command! I often edit users posts to do that.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-12-31 18:39:11

^ Thanks!

And I using the lack of code tags as my excuse for not spotting the missing repositories

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2021-12-31 18:39:23)

golinux · 2021-12-31 18:44:14

Isn't symbiosis great!

mclien · 2021-12-31 21:53:24

I do have it in my sources.list:

 cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main non-free contrib

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main non-free contrib

#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main non-free contrib

sorry for the missing tags in my last post.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-12-31 21:59:58

Well APT wasn't aware of those sources in your last post

Did you try apt update && apt full-upgrade (as root)? You should see references to all the components of the chimaera, chimaera-updates and chimaera-security repositories in the output of the first command.

mclien · 2022-01-01 10:21:37

I did the

apt update && apt full-upgrade

now. (No idea how I missed that in my Beowulf - Chimaera update.)
But..

 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable-security,n=chimaera-security,l=Devuan-Security,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org
 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
     release v=4.0,o=Devuan,a=stable,n=chimaera,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
     origin deb.devuan.org

Do I miss something? The order of the "brands"(is that the right word?) is not important or is it?
Like these 2 line do the same?:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main non-free contrib
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free

at least I can spot no (other) typo in my sources.list

The linux-image is updated after that, though.

Last edited by mclien (2022-01-01 10:22:30)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-01 11:02:10

Do you see the InRelease lines for chimaera-updates in the output of apt update?

Is firefox-esr still broken in respect of the fluxbox windows?

@ralph.ronnquist: I can't navigate to https://deb.devuan.org/devuan in my browser because FF (non-ESR v95) claims "it uses a certificate that is not valid for deb.devuan.org. The certificate is only valid for search.stinpriza.org" — is this a misconfiguration of the site?

mclien · 2022-01-01 11:35:23

Yes (as in: I ran it again just now, so I'm not sure, if it was there before. I did a reboot inbetween)

apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease

And yes FF still broken in the fluxbox windows. (But maybe this is the last push to change to PaleMoon as default browser...But FF might be still necessary on some occasions)

Nili · 2022-01-01 11:49:25

+1 about navigating that link.
Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Regarding Firefox from @op thread.

I run Firefox Nightly on a stack CWM for months, CWM as a Window Manager doesn't have toolbar like Openbox, Fluxbox rather it is like a DWM or HLWM, but have mouse click feature.

Used to drag with left-click the firefox toolbar to move root window everywhere the mouse directed, but i can't do it anymore since a month. Also i have lost the top buttons on toolbar, i mean close, maximize, minimize.
Because "Title bar" from Customize that enabled it isn't available anymore from bottom left of the custom.

This is from Nightly 97.0a1 (2021-12-31) nightly/daily updated - Devuan Testing

It used to be like this
This is from Firefox 95.0.2 - Windows

While the F11 (Firefox Full screen) buttons are shown, but seems messed up without icons and a bit higher extended over mouse point.

I never reported this issues to reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/

thinking that 1) they have either removed them as a function, 2) or will fix them later since the browser is experimental.

When i fire nightly from terminal doesn't show any log, i tried with new clean profile .mozilla without success.

So, i have a bit similar symptoms as @op or perhaps mine is different concern.

As CWM doesn't have toolbar i close dialogs with ESC or WM keybind if toolbar buttons aren't present, but losing the clickable and buttons to Firefox for me is a miss. Perhaps i may return them with a userChrome modification, but never bothered, i'm became a little lazy even to report

Last edited by Nili (2022-01-01 11:51:05)

ralph.ronnquist · 2022-01-01 12:42:05

Eh?

deb.devuan.org is the mirror round-robin, which ultimately resolves to any one of the package mirror hosts.

There is no devuan SSL access for those but they of course provide whatever services they want in addition to the package mirror service for "http://deb.devuan.org".

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-01 12:58:00

Yes indeed, sorry Ralph I was getting confused there.

If I navigate to https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … ates/main/ I can't see any Contents-* files and the Packages.{gz,xz} files at https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … ary-amd64/ are completely empty.

Is there a problem with Amprolla?

aitor · 2022-01-01 13:30:23

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Yes indeed, sorry Ralph I was getting confused there.
If I navigate to https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … ates/main/ I can't see any Contents-* files and the Packages.{gz,xz} files at https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dis … ary-amd64/ are completely empty.
Is there a problem with Amprolla?

Short answer from my mobile:

https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dis … ates/main/

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-01 13:41:53

Thanks aitor but both the Contents-* & Packages.{xz,gz} files are all empty for chimaera-updates, which is not the case for the same files in beowulf-updates.

ralph.ronnquist · 2022-01-01 22:48:41

.. let me inflate @aitor's point a little:

Note that the pkgmaster:devuan/ directory tree comprises the forked packages only, and it is input to amprolla, for being used as "overlay" over Debian's package collection(s) into the Devuan distribution at http://deb.devuan.org/merged/, including the meta information at pkgmaster:merged/ which is amprolla's output.

I'm not totally on top of the intricacies with how the pkgmaster:devuan/ directory tree comes about and is managed; I believe it in general involves "someone" instructing "ci" to build a forked package, whose artifacts then get digested by "dak" into the initial publishing place (usually ceres). And then "britney" applies its time logic to propagate new packages from ceres into the upcoming release distribution, currently daedalus.

In my somewhat cloudy mind, chimaera-updates only holds "point release to be" packages for chimaera. Such packages has a precursor publishing point in chimaera-proposed-updates for confidence building before becoming chimaera-update packages.

Or, something like that. Someone with better insight would also be able to refer to Debian's applicable documentation regarding this.

In other words, when browsing https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan you are browsing the forked packages only, and you'll need to browse https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged to see the meta-information (only) for the Devuan distribution repositories.

A full Devuan distribution repository is only available by browsing http://deb.devuan.org/merged, because it's a virtual directory tree that (through Devuan's web wizardry) consists of a combination of the meta information at pkgmaster:merged/, the forked packages at pkgmaster:devuan/ and (some of) the packages at http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/... (via Debian's web wizardry applying load balancing and whatnot before landing at a stream of bytes)

mclien · 2022-01-02 11:33:46

OK, I confess:
You now totally lost me.

Anything I can do solve the problem ?
Or is this even a problem? (the ff is, but I mean the "empty chimaera -updates")

hevidevi · 2022-01-02 12:30:37

Maybe post a screen shot of your issue mclien?

Ive not used fluxbox much before, i always found it cumbersome to edit and modify and has ugly ui.

Last edited by hevidevi (2022-01-02 12:41:57)

fsmithred · 2022-01-02 21:30:29

Wasn't someone else complaining about the new firefox being broken? It's still possible to go back to the older one.

apt install firefox-esr=78.15.0esr-1~deb11u1

mclien · 2022-01-02 21:47:34

Perhaps, but that wasn't the esr and a somewhat higher Version number.
I think it is just something missing to work with the window manager.

BTW: There is no upload integrated in DG, right? So upload elsewhere and link hiere?

mclien · 2022-01-02 22:01:38

From here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=267158
I got this hint:

[..]but you might want to try this about:config tweak, worked for me for Fluxbox:
- Check that gfx.webrender.all is set to false (it was already set to false here).
- Toggle gfx.webrender.force-disabled from false to true.

Worked for me.

szutt · 2022-01-03 02:52:54

Oh God, a big thank you.

Before firefox esr 91 I had to use

gfx.webrender.all = true

in order to have firefox usable to play videos and yes since esr 91 firefox was completly unusable. So I installed a fresh virtual machine with chimaera and chromium and the video playing was a way better than firefox on physical host (such a shame).

But this worked for me and firefox is usable again!

gfx.webrender.all = false
gfx.webrender.force-disabled = true
gfx.webrender.force-legacy-layers = true

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-07 13:09:12

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

chimaera-updates only holds "point release to be" packages for chimaera

Yes and my point was that Debian have now released v11.2 of bullseye so there should be corresponding packages in https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dis … ates/main/ but it seems to be empty.

Compare the sizes of Packages.xz in Debian (2.5K) to Devuan (32 bytes: it is an empty file). That doesn't look right to me. But perhaps I'm missing something obvious, in which case my apologies for the noise.

@OP: sorry for the off-topic diversion.

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