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#51 2021-05-01 12:47:56

brocashelm
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

Centralization is bad.

Also, since we've been getting GNU/Linux Mint refugees (myself included), this can influence Devuan's development as there will be more potential beta testers, packagers, and forum regulars who can share their wealth of knowledge. I like it better that way than going big with corporate sponsorships (e.g. Red Hat, Canonical, Microsoft, Intel, HP).

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#52 2021-05-02 11:50:26

dice
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

brocashelm wrote:

Centralization is bad.

Also, since we've been getting GNU/Linux Mint refugees (myself included), this can influence Devuan's development as there will be more potential beta testers, packagers, and forum regulars who can share their wealth of knowledge. I like it better that way than going big with corporate sponsorships (e.g. Red Hat, Canonical, Microsoft, Intel, HP).

yep its good to see mint going this way, have always had a soft spot for mint as it was one of the first distros i installed over windblows.

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#53 2021-06-02 20:37:25

mweishaar
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Registered: 2018-11-11
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

I would flip this question around:  Is there any reason to switch to Debian?

I have been using Linux since RedHat 5.1 (1998) and eventually went to *buntus and then Mint.  Over the years I basically forgot about the init system.  When Mint made systemd mandatory, and I started having minutes-long startup and shutdowns, that is when I learned what systemd was.  And it was now the default with no turning back. sad 

That's how I found Devuan, and it just works great for me.  Just like how when Firefox performance went south quickly, I switched to Palemoon.  I know FF has since turned things around quite a bit, but that doesn't mean I just go back to it.  I'll keep using what I use until it does something that makes me want or need to switch.

I have no good reason to switch to Debian (or Mint).  I'm very happy with Devuan, it does what I want and need.  I do like that Debian *might* move back to init choices, because there's something more than a little unsettling about having only one choice for init.  I can certainly understand if systemd is better for admins, and even if people prefer it. 

Personally, if I HAD to switch to systemd I would likely do that instead of going to BSD.  Let's hope it doesn't come to that.  smile

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#54 2021-06-14 00:44:43

lightwaves
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Registered: 2021-06-13
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

Hi all, staying with devuan and any other non tyrannical operating systems. Those beings seen and unseen, who have a thirst to dominate everything, have a rude awakening coming very soon. Though some of them, are probably wondering how they have been allowed to try and dominate everything in this realm for so long and when they would be stopped. Well that time is very, very soon. They follow the same strategies always and infiltration and subterfuge is one of their major tactics, ie. superimposing one image on another to create a false reality. Well, it certainly is not false to those attempting to dominate everything, because that is their intention. To subvert systems and concepts and overlay them with their version, to gain control. They use pyramid scheme system overlays, so that a very few can give commands and dominate from that position. Sound familiar, 'systemd'. You will find, that they have used very similar strategies all across this world, in all systems that humanity relies upon. As said, their end time of ruling this realm is almost upon us, rejoice brothers and sisters. The inertia of all their mis-creations is coming to an end. peace love light

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#55 2021-06-14 14:15:20

ComputerBob
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Registered: 2018-10-11
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

Instead of trying to remember and re-post it all, I would like to point anyone who wonders about the OP's original question to read my very sincere and heartfelt answer to that question.

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=30200#p30200

As was previously said by others who, undoubtedly, are much more qualified than I am to speak:

"It's about more than the code."


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#56 2021-06-26 17:54:06

Tatwi
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Registered: 2018-10-24
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Re: As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De

There's something to be said about purpose built devices; I would prefer to use Devuan over Debian, because Devuan is supposed to work 100% fine with SystemV Init. I know I won't need to fight with the system just to get it work and that means a lot to me!

For me, it's not about "not using ____", it's about continuing to use that which "ain't broke and don't need fix'n"!

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