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I know this is marked SOLVED, but you could also just unplug the drive you know you want to keep, then you'll only have 1 choice to install Devuan on.
@golinux sorry, it had nothing to do with theming which was the point of this thread, so I deleted it.
I do really like the deathmetal color palette.
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My 2 cents is that the login screen background is about as important as the wallpaper used after login. So, please consider that setting as well.
Don't forget the grub screen.
After 28 years of using Linux, I just recently customized the background on the grub screen. I wanted to change as little as possible, so I just soft-linked to my image:
cd /boot/grub/theme/sapphire-grub/
mv background.png background.png.orig
cp /path/to/mybackground.png .
ln -s mybackground.png background.pngI could have just overwritten the background.png file, but this way in the future if I go looking, I can easily see what I did.
Starting to be amazed here at all the supposedly tech-savvy people who seem to need an installer app to hold their hands through the process.
Last time I ran the Devuan installer it was on ASCII. I'm on Excaliber now, dist-upgrade works just fine for me. Not sure how being able to run a CLI or a GUI for an install makes you any more or less tech-savvy. I've had only Linux on my machine since '98, and I think I'm starting to get the hang of it.
I'm shocked about how much people care about the installer, as long as it works you should just get on with using your system. Unless of course you're an admin, have to manage many machines, or just like doing installs all the time.
My 18 year old just switched to Linux last year, and he decided he wanted to install Arch because he would "learn more about how Linux works". Good for him - but I guarantee you he doesn't know much more than before he installed it. He hasn't broken it yet, so he has some learning opportunities ahead of him. ![]()
Saw this story on theregister and wondered if init-diversity had been discussed here or not. https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/21/ … diversity/
Thought I would bump this old topic on it.
I really have no interest in using it, I'm perfectly happy with sysvinit. But I like that someone is doing it. ![]()
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Thanks for this post... I don't have an answer for you, but seeing it made me wonder what my .xsession-errors looked like.
It's 1.1MM rows and is 53MB. And I see 62,976 of these messages from libxfce4kbd-private-WARNING : "Failed to grab keycode 111".
It goes back to October, so I'll be cleaning that up now. And hopefully pay a little more attention to it going forward.
All other nonsense aside... ![]()
The installer is not compatible with Ventoy (or more to the point, Ventoy hasn't implemented support for it among all its other distro-specific hacks), this is why Ventoy is conspicuously not listed under the instructions for making install media.
I am curious about this. I did a dist-upgrade to Excaliber, as I have done ever since my initial install of ASCII, but I did put the Excaliber iso on a ventoy thumb drive just in case. Can you expand on why the installer doesn't work with Ventoy, or is that best suited for a separate topic?
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Nice! When I get the time to read through all the notes I will upgrade to this version. My original install was ASCII back in 2018 and I've been dist-upgrading since then.
Might be a longshot, but you could email MiYo through the forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/misc.php?email=952
I like running
sysv-rc-confto check on services. That may give you another view of things at least.
fyi, you can run this to get more detailed info out of inxi, the xxx works on other flags too...
inxit -Axxx@Altoid, I am pretty much in the same boat as you, I've just been using Linux on my desktop since '98. Got to Devuan because Mint forced their init system on me, and the new one was giving me problems. I started on ASCII XFCE in 2018 and have dist-upgraded since, and also have a 3-monitor setup. I will hold off on upgrading Excaliber once I think it's feasible to do so, just as I have in past upgrades. All of mine have had minor issues. I do a nightly rsync of my home drive to a separate disk. I have switched over to an AMD GPU because they just work better w/Linux. If you can zoom in on my image you can see more of my system info if you're curious.
BTW: Having started in the mid 90ies with linux I have never done upgrades to
a new release, always did fresh installs and adapted them to local
requirements. It really make for a lot of decluttering, especially for people
that can't house keep or are hoarders.
I started around the same time too (redhat 5.1) and I tried to do an upgrade once around that time and it didn't go well at all. Of course, times have changed and dist-upgrades have been smooth sailing for the most part for the last 10 years. I keep house pretty well, but I don't mind a little cruft as long as things keep working. I do have email archives back to 2002, but it's all in text and only takes up 4.8GB. Still using alpine (fka pine) as my main mail client and it works beautifully.
I appreciate the discussion in this thread, and I'll probably go with the dist-upgrade and do a reinstall if anything goes badly. I do have a nightly rsync of my home folder to another disk, so I'll likely do one more and make some notes before doing the upgrade (and of course reading the release notes).
With Debian announcing the release date of Trixie on Aug 9, I know Excalibur will be coming. ![]()
My daily driver desktop system running Daedalus/xfce/sysvinit was fresh installed with ASCII, and has been dist-upgraded ever since with minimal issues. I am expecting the same for this one, but am also wondering if it is time to do a fresh install again.
It could be that I have customized or changed (or not changed) enough things that it might be annoying to start fresh. e.g. I am still running slim. Just trying to think of and note all of the things I would need to consider installing / not installing / backing up / noting is a bit daunting. I've been running Linux since '98 so I remember the days when reinstalling was the only real option.
The easy answer is just to do a dist-upgrade again and carry on, but figured I might as well ask what others think.
Got it.
Strange that clean/autoclean aren't in the man pages for apt.
I am not sure what I am missing here... @Altoid is quoting and replying to his own posts, and some are saying apt clean/autoclean and apt-cache clean/autoclean works on Daedalus when clean/autoclean are not even options for those tools. They are only available in apt-get.
Am I losing it or has this thread gone off the rails?
@Altoid, scroll up 2 posts from yours and see my Edit: comment.
You might run apt-cache autoclean to get rid of old deb packages in /var/cache/apt/archives or even apt-cache clean to get rid of all the deb packages in that directory.
I am not OP, but I have forgotten all about apt-cache... clearly, since I have 4253 pkgs as far back as 2015 in there taking up 13GB !
However, 'clean' and 'autoclean' are not valid operations for apt-cache. (apt 2.1.1devuan1). I'm on daedalus and am up to date. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: apt-get autoclean works. I'm down to 487 pkgs @ 6GB. ![]()
I just added teh aformentioned script (in ~/bin) to XFCE's Application Startup under Session and Startup.
No issues pipewire is running without a hiccup.
I do only reboot when necessary, which isn't very often. But I did a few times just to make sure it was working.
Replying to my own message, but saw this on the Reg today
https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/18/apt_3_debian/
"Major updates to Debian's Advanced Packaging Tool don't come along very often, but APT 2.9 is here with a significant facelift.
APT version 2.9 has just been accepted into Debian's unstable development channel. This is an unfinished development version, which should lead to APT 3 in time for Debian 13, which will probably appear around mid-2025."
...
"Most notably, the new version uses colored output. Packages to be installed or upgraded are listed in green by default, and ones to be removed are listed in red. This will make the distinction clearer for those of us with working color vision, but it's not the best choice for those who suffer from daltonism, or red/green color blindness – the most common form, affecting some 8 or 9 percent of men."
Apt does what I need it to do for me, I have a fast connection and install updates every couple of days. I have a cronjob that runs 'apt update' and then 'apt-get -s upgrade' so I get an email of what is available. (you can also run 'apt list --upgradable', just diff looking output)
But it would be kind of nice to have apt show some color in the output, configurable of course. Perhaps using LS_COLORS like ls does somehow? It would make the output a little more lively.
@nixer I couldn't get it to work either, but when I run the daemon command from the terminal I get "unrecognized option '--bind' " which would explain why it isn't working. I have daemon 0.8-1+b1 from backports. But re-reading, steve_v said unstable backports.
I'll have to look up how to install from unstable, I usually don't mess with that. ![]()
Maybe you have the same issue.