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#1826 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-02 03:31:48

@darry1966 . . .  the path is different in Beowulf.  Please read the first post on this thread and the Release Notes.

#1827 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-01 21:48:02

mrnhmath wrote:

Should we override upstream and build xfce4 with gtk2 instead?

lol lol lol lol lol

Just who is the "we" that you propose should undertake this enormous task?  "We" are overworked and understaffed and our mission is to deal with systemd encroachments not everyone's personal wish list.  File a "bug" upstream with Xfce for starts.

#1828 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-01 14:35:29

@darry1966 . . . That issue is also covered in the Beowulf Release Notes, on this forum and on the Devuan-related MLs.

#1829 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Star 2.1.0 - Distrowatch review » 2020-04-28 05:43:23

What a great, in-depth review!  Well done, Ozi!

#1830 Re: Off-topic » deb.sury.org now requires systemd » 2020-04-26 15:32:58

IdeaFix wrote:

You found a time to make a lot of words... but I need my services works now, not tomorrow.

In case you didn't notice, the age of instant gratification is coming to a grinding halt globally.  Perhaps time to grow up a bit and wake up to the fact that the world doesn't revolve around your desires.  That is reality.

IdeaFix wrote:

And may be i will just change a linux distribution.

Yes. please go whine elsewhere.  And don't let the door hit you on the way out . . .

#1831 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2020-04-26 04:56:55

@user . . . thanks for the suggestions.  beta.devuan.org is the updated site that will be released with Beowulf 3.0.0.  So that is the site you should be proofing for errors and/or using if you are testing Beowulf.

user wrote:

https://www.devuan.org/os/partners/ways-to-help has a link (You can seed our Release Torrents) that is 404

That page no longer exists on the beta site.  It has been replaced with a link to this page on the dev1galaxy forum.

user wrote:

https://www.devuan.org/os/contact doesn't have the usual "Webmaster" link, so if anyone from the project reads this, maybe they can fix it

That's an interesting suggestion but perhaps not necessary as the web source is in devuan's git and anyone can open an issue there.   Devuan's irc channels #devuan-www and #devuan-dev are also good places to catch someone.

#1832 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-04-24 19:59:06

Is desktop-base installed?  That should pull in all parts of the cinnabar theme.  Sorry, can't help with grub issues.  Hope you get it straightened out.

#1833 Re: Installation » Beowulff beta - 32bit -live iso » 2020-04-24 01:47:18

Might be helpful to have the exact filename of the iso you tried to install.

#1834 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-22 21:57:25

Thanks and congrats!  Maybe that bit of info needs to be added to the website version.

#1835 Re: DIY » Migration from debian buster to devuan beowulf can work » 2020-04-22 20:24:05

@swanson . . . You might also want to have a look at the documentation on the beta website in case you have need to do a similar migration.

#1836 Re: Forum Feedback » Forum web certificate renewal » 2020-04-19 17:05:48

@Marjorie . . . You can always find us on Devuan channels at Freenode IRC.  #d1g-users would probably be the most appropriate.

#1837 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2020-04-18 02:32:11

@Mercurius . . . You didn't say which mirror you would like to host so posting both:
iso mirror setup
package mirror setup

#1838 Re: Off-topic » deb.sury.org now requires systemd » 2020-04-14 16:34:32

mckaygerhard wrote:

YES! MXLinux,  relies on AntiX work! it's the most common sense to join effors with anticapitalis guy!

That "anticapitalista guy" is on this forum nearly every day and was known to many of us at the refracta forum long before Devuan was a thing.

#1839 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Hey siva! » 2020-04-14 04:00:13

siva wrote:

Thanks! Thought I updated that like last year.

Awaiting RRQ.

Can't you change that in your profile?  If not, fsmithred or I could do it.

#1840 Re: Off-topic » deb.sury.org now requires systemd » 2020-04-12 21:49:59

@ mckaygerhard . . . Have you ever considered actually doing something (besides complaining and telling other users what they should do)?

#1841 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-09 20:01:08

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

Why not make the deb.devuan.org the default? Just a thought.

It already is in a "normal" installation:
https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages

#1842 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-08 19:47:50

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:
golinux wrote:

This from https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages :
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.

You are correct to bring attention to the point of never, ever adding sources from other distributions which may replace official Devuan packages. This is usually unnecessary and harmful. This point can not be overstated.

Exactly.  It needs to be stated over and over.

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

Hope that clears it up.

Mostly this discussion is about semantics which in documentation is more important than you might think.  wink

#1843 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-08 15:06:22

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

I think golinux said somewhere on this forum that devuan is 98% pure debian. That means using packages built against a corresponding debian release is 98% likely to work, on average. Unless you get packages which are heavily systemd related.

Not exactly . . .

This from https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages :
Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

If it doesn't work, you can always blame golinux for lulling you into a false sense of security with the 98/2 statistics. (jk) :-)

Your interpretation of what constitutes a Debian repository could lead to a Frankendevuan!  FWIW, debmultimedia has always been a risky adventure.  If you decide to go there check the package carefully and remember that you added a non-native package when the devuan version arrives.

#1844 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-06 20:06:41

I think that may be a buster=stable beowulf=testing glitch and that things will normalize when we are also "stable" release.

#1845 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-06 18:22:27

HoaS is an easy wind-up.  big_smile

Actually I suspect that this is the tip of the iceberg.

Used to be that the "wontfix" issues were listed on their stats page.  That went away a year or more ago.  No telling what's buried in there that will come to bite us.

#1846 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-06 16:38:22

Yes,  That is correct.  Was the package you were looking for there?

This is a useful page for sources.list information.

#1847 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-06 01:36:06

@Roger . . . Thanks for doing that.  One question . . . did you install the incompatible driver from the Devuan repos, Debian repos directly of from nVidia?  That might be a factor is why the old driver was not found.  I'm not quite sure where/what his script checks.  Or perhaps there was an instruction somewhere to remove the current driver before proceeding.  I really can't remember the process.  It was so long ago.

#1848 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-05 18:50:59

"nvidea-driver"?  I don't think so:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any
0 results for "nvidea-driver" in any (in 14.763921ms)

Try "nvidia-driver" instead:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any
17 results for "nvidia-driver" in any (in 15.098441ms)

#1849 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-04 22:10:10

kapqa wrote:

please don't forget to include pvr-iptvsimple for kodi *missing*

It appears to be in ascii and ceres.  Looks like that omission comes directly from debian as we have not forked that package.  Have you checked backports?

#1850 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Legacy Graphics Problem with Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-04-03 01:36:58

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... that package comes directly from Debian ...

Indeed ...
But Debian also means (in some way, methinks) systemd related.

LOL!  98% of Devuan is pure Debian.  These are the Debian packages banned in Devuan.

Altoid wrote:

As I always try to avoid installing anything from outside the Devuan repositories, I went to synaptic expecting to find it there, just like inxi.
I did not find it so I went looking for it at https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ and it had not been / was not there either.

This called my attention, which is why I asked.

I'll install it from HH's site but maybe (?) it could be added to the stable/backport repositories in the future?

If Debian had it, we would have it.  We only touch files with systemd issues.  If and when Debian offers it, then we will too.

Altoid wrote:

Thanks for your input.

A.

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