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#1751 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-07 14:49:06

^ I said I didn't want to start an argument wink

Can we try to stay on topic? What do you think about the comment described in the OP?

#1752 Re: Installation » appimages? » 2021-02-07 14:46:59

pootler wrote:
[11157:0207/134338.395343:FATAL:setuid_sandbox_host.cc(157)] The SUID sandbox helper binary was found, but is not configured correctly. Rather than run without sandboxing I'm aborting now. You need to make sure that /tmp/.mount_CripteZQiVuj/chrome-sandbox is owned by root and has mode 4755.

Did you follow that advice?

pootler wrote:
** Message: 13:44:15.087: Remote error from secret service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.secrets was not provided by any .service files

That dbus service file is provided by the gnome-keyring package

#1753 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-07 14:40:41

dice wrote:

the project lacks a serious amount of documentation

I don't think so:

$ apropos systemd | wc -l
188
$

The man pages are extensive and comprehensive. See also https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/

dice wrote:

the user is able to gain su privilege with machinectl

If the user is in the sudo group then machinectl(1) can be used to open a root shell with the user's password, which can also be achieved with sudo(8). If the user isn't in the sudo group then any attempt to open a root shell with machinectl(1) is refused unless the root password is supplied.

#1754 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-07 09:59:40

GlennW wrote:

the source code was not readily readable by a human

That's off topic for this thread but just sounds like complete nonsense. Do you have a citation for that?

The systemd code base is licensed under the GPL[0][1] so it does conform to the FSF guidelines[2][3][4].

#1756 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-06 20:48:54

Well I would agree with the comment, yes. But I'm no expert so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#1757 Re: Off-topic » Ceres, the celestial object » 2021-02-06 20:28:55

^ Thanks. Dear me, not having a good thread here... sad

#1758 Re: Off-topic » Ceres, the celestial object » 2021-02-06 19:47:12

Thanks for the correction and apologies for the misinformation. Oops.

#1759 Re: Off-topic » Ceres, the celestial object » 2021-02-06 19:18:54

I'm pretty sure ceres is named after the Greek Goddess of fertility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(mythology)

Beowulf is an ancient Gothic hero (and the name of a poem about him): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_(hero)

Daedalus is the person who designed the labyrinth for the Minotaur and the father of Icarus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daedalus

But anyway thanks for the link, that site looks very interesting.

#1760 Re: Off-topic » Question about Linux kernel (as relates to systemd) » 2021-02-06 18:45:04

The Linux kernel is an example of a monolithic kernel, which can be contrasted with the microkernel paradigm.

And just to note that "GNU" stands for "GNU's Not Unix" — Linux has never really adhered to UNIX principles anyway. I would also mention that systemd is actually very modular in it's design with *many* compilation and configuration options that can be used to filter out unwanted functionality and also that systemd offers a unified collection of userspace control programs that is *very* similar to the way that all of the true UNIX® systems work but I wouldn't want to start an argument big_smile

#1761 Re: Other Issues » Is VirtualBox (or alternative) in the repo? » 2021-02-05 15:03:02

zapper wrote:

sudo kvm -m (amount of memory for VM, i.e. 2048) -cdrom (name of image, i.e., gnuinos.iso) -boot d name-of.img

To start the image after install do:

sudo kvm -m (amount of memory for VM, i.e. 2048)  name-of.img

Why are you running QEMU with sudo? That's not a good idea — security for virtualised systems isn't the best and elevating the privileges will only make the situation worse.

#1762 Re: Off-topic » A peek into the future of distros » 2021-02-05 14:59:19

zapper wrote:

Scary... so he is working with google or as some call it gaggle...

Nah, that just means they know what they're doing. After all Ken Thompson and Rob Pike both now work for the big G.

#1763 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon » 2021-02-04 16:20:56

Perhaps you should ask on the PaleMoon forums. Be warned that the developers are complete arseholes though.

#1764 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » SOLVED: Wicd Network Manager on MATE is unreliable » 2021-02-04 16:15:57

nobodyuknow wrote:

Wicd Network Manager does not always provide a connection. Right now it is showing "Scanning" which it has done for thirty minutes now

Have you checked the logs? Perhaps the problem is fixable.

#1765 Re: Off-topic » Kobalos malware - possibly ported to Linux » 2021-02-04 16:14:29

To remove the risk completely:

# apt purge openssh-{client,server}

#1766 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » sources.list virtualbox beowulf » 2021-02-02 17:32:44

I have found that Windows 10 performs very well under QEMU/KVM:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers

It works even better than on the bare metal because you can freeze the little fucker if it tries one of it's "let's update the system for seven hours" tricks.

#1767 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » sources.list virtualbox beowulf » 2021-02-02 15:57:08

Before you install it you should read https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=794466 — that explains why VirtualBox isn't available in the beowulf repositories (tl;dr: it's *terrible* and probably should not be used by anybody, ever).

If you still want to use it then see https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Debi … 2Buster.22

Those solutions are for Debian buster but they should also work for Devuan beowulf. Be aware that the Devuan developers strongly recommend that you *do not* use any non-Devuan repositories so follow this method at your own risk.

#1768 Re: Off-topic » easy script to mount luks encrypted drives, usb etc. » 2021-02-01 20:31:22

dice wrote:
        m ) crypt_mount "$@"
        ;;
        u ) crypt_umount "$@"

Why are you passing the arguments applied to the script to those functions? They don't appear to do anything with them unless I'm missing something obvious.

fsmithred wrote:

From refracta2usb. These list usb devices.

usbdevlist=$(/usr/sbin/hwinfo --usb --short|grep "/dev/sd"|awk '{print $1}')
usbdevfulllist=$(/usr/sbin/hwinfo --usb --short|grep "/dev/sd"|awk '{print $0}')

No need for grep:

usbdevlist=$(/usr/sbin/hwinfo --usb --short|awk '/\/dev\/sd/{print $1}')
usbdevfulllist=$(/usr/sbin/hwinfo --usb --short|awk '/\/dev\/sd/{print $0}')

And here's a whiptail alternative for the yad dialogue:

usbdevlist() {
   /usr/sbin/hwinfo --usb --short|awk '/\/dev\/sd/{print $1,$1}'
}
device=$(whiptail --notags --menu "Please select the target device to which you want to copy the live image:" 0 0 0 $(usbdevlist) 3>&2 2>&1 1>&3)

#1769 Re: News & Announcements » Sudo Vulnerability CVE-2021-3156 » 2021-01-29 21:49:48

zapper wrote:

when did get discovered?

Yesterday.

EDIT: the fixed version is 6.8.1.

EDIT2: it looks like the doas package in Hyperbola is orphaned and stuck on an old version (6.6.1).

#1770 Re: News & Announcements » Sudo Vulnerability CVE-2021-3156 » 2021-01-29 18:23:38

yeti wrote:
zapper wrote:

On Hyperbola I use doas, surprised more distros within linux haven't started using it yet.

Did you check it for having "CVE-2019-25016 (Unsafe, incomplete PATH reset)" fixed?

Alpine Linux updated to v6.8.1 within an hour of the upstream release :-)

#1771 Re: News & Announcements » Sudo Vulnerability CVE-2021-3156 » 2021-01-28 16:30:38

dice wrote:

if i want to edit a file as root

Why not just use sudoedit? Oh no, wait... roll

Marjorie wrote:

they seems to have pushed it out to the downstream repos [...] damn fast

Yeah, the Security Team rocks :-)

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … -2021-3156

#1772 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Configuring new server box » 2021-01-28 16:14:28

"i5" & "i7" are fairly meaningless without the specific processor type, both have been around for over 12 years now. Bear in mind that the stock beowulf kernel version was frozen over 2 years ago so any hardware introduced after that date may not be supported properly. I know that the 10th & 11th generation Intel integrated graphics chips won't work at all in Devuan beowulf even with the backported kernel because they need a newer Mesa version (not particularly relevant for a server but it gives you an idea of the potential problems that can arise).

#1773 Re: Off-topic » A peek into the future of distros » 2021-01-28 16:08:57

The kernel has been completely pwned by the corporations: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/about/board/

Haiku is looking really good these days...

#1774 Re: Documentation » nftables advice? » 2021-01-28 16:06:47

ifdv44 wrote:

Is it safe to assume that Devuan will follow that (it appears to be the default install too) ?

I think beowulf already defaults to the nftables backend as per https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … l#nftables

ifdv44 wrote:

iptables rules are easier to read

I do not agree with that at all. The nftables syntax looks *much* easier to understand IMO but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to firewalls so my opinion is probably moot.

ifdv44 wrote:

Any suggestions on where i might be advised to start learning from?

I presume you've seen the nftables wiki? See also https://wiki.debian.org/nftables & https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nftables

The nftables package provides a few examples under /usr/share/doc/ and also has a sysvinit script that can be used in Devuan but it needs correcting:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2889

#1775 Re: News & Announcements » Sudo Vulnerability CVE-2021-3156 » 2021-01-28 15:59:22

RFP for doas(1) was submitted yesterday:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=981176

Looks like it's going to be packaged up for De??an :-)

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