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#1 2021-02-03 19:46:11

Altoid
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[Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

I use Pale Moon 29.0.0 (64-bit) 'portable' on my Devuan install:

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.246-2 (2020-12-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$ 

I run it directly from a folder in /home as it is not in the repository.

As of late (month or so) I have been having what seems to be a speed playback problem when watching (some) on-line videos, a problem which does not occur if I watch the same videofeed on Firefox 64 (64-bit) and I'd much rather not use Firefox.

I run Firefox from an appimage.

Could someone please point me to a suitable solution?

Thanks in advance,

A.

Last edited by Altoid (2021-02-05 01:19:41)

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#2 2021-02-03 22:26:10

Ron
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Can you provide a link to a problem video please? A quick look over at the Pale Moon forum doesn't show anybody else having a problem with videos on the new version. Do you have any extensions that tweak video playback? Another thing to do is test a problem video in a new profile.

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#3 2021-02-03 23:20:07

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Ron wrote:

... a link to a problem video please?

Sure ...

This is one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/to … video.html

Ron wrote:

Do you have any extensions that tweak video playback?

Not that I am aware of.

TIA

A.

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#4 2021-02-04 00:17:04

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

I only clicked one video but it played fine in my older PM once I enabled video (which I usually have blocked).

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#5 2021-02-04 01:23:40

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

golinux wrote:

... it played fine in my older PM once I enabled video (which I usually have blocked).

It happens here ...

https://yesmovies.ag/movie/news-of-the- … ching.html


... but not here:

https://azm.to/movie/news-of-the-world (server 1)

I have to check, but IIRC it does not happen with YouTube video feeds.

TIA

A.

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#6 2021-02-04 01:30:09

Ron
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

For the Washington Post video, go to Tools > Preferences > Content, and at the bottom uncheck "Enable MSE for MP4 video." Didn't check the rest of your links, but if it's the audio that's the problem in all of them, they should all work properly now.

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#7 2021-02-04 01:47:49

Altoid
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

Ron wrote:

... go to Tools > Preferences > Content, and at the bottom uncheck "Enable MSE for MP4 video."

MSE is enabled for both MP4 video and WebM video.

Still no cigar ...

It's not just sound, it seems to be the playback speed.

I don't think it is Devuan related because Firefox does not have this problem.
Could it be because I'm running the portable version of Palemoon instead of an appimage? (can't find one)

Thanks for your input.

A.

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#8 2021-02-04 07:50:16

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

I also use Palemoon and have playback problems with TED talks, the audio sounds pitch-shifted down a couple of octaves... Following your post seeking tips.

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#9 2021-02-04 11:44:53

Altoid
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

GlennW wrote:

I also use Palemoon and have playback problems ...
... audio sounds pitch-shifted down a couple of octaves...

Shifted down because of the speed, to the extent of not being understandable?
That's what I'm seeing.

Good (not really), I'm glad there's someone else affected by this.

Now to hunt for the reason.  8^7

I'm on Devuan Stretch ... 

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.9.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.246-2 (2020-12-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$

... and Xfce 4.12.

Edit:
Could you please try the links I posted in previously and report back with the results?
Also, do you experience the same problem with YouTube video feeds?

Edit 2:
I can confirm it does not ocurr while streaming YouTube video feeds.

See this page: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/202 … eth-meyers

All the YouTube feeds can be seen/heard correctly.
Unfortunately, one of my favourites (Trevor Noah) which is a Twitter feed, cannot.

So it may be a Twitter/Palemoon thing. (?)

Thanks a lot for your input.

A.

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#10 2021-02-04 16:20:56

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Perhaps you should ask on the PaleMoon forums. Be warned that the developers are complete arseholes though.


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#11 2021-02-04 17:43:19

golinux
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Altoid wrote:

I'm on Devuan Stretch ...

There is no Devuan Stretch.

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#12 2021-02-04 20:07:02

Altoid
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

golinux wrote:

There is no Devuan Stretch.

Damn ...
How utterly embarrassing.  8^|

I stand corrected: I'm running Devuan ASCII.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Cheers,

A.

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#13 2021-02-04 23:36:14

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Ron wrote:

For the Washington Post video, go to Tools > Preferences > Content, and at the bottom uncheck "Enable MSE for MP4 video." Didn't check the rest of your links, but if it's the audio that's the problem in all of them, they should all work properly now.

I'm testing Ron's suggestion, and just ran a Ted Talk "https://www.ted.com/talks/richard_coffi … anguage=en",

And the audio is fine. Thank you Ron. ;-)

I must add, most of the ted talks I have tried to play lately have been through FaceBook, so I'll check those links in future as well.

The vids were playing at normal speed, but with the audio pitch-shifted to Darthvader-like unintelligible.

Thank you

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#14 2021-02-04 23:55:44

Altoid
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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Hello:

Ron wrote:

... Tools > Preferences > Content, and at the bottom uncheck "Enable MSE for MP4 video."

Oooooooooopsssssssss ...

Seems I'm really not ending this week on the right frequency.  8^|
Too much time cooped up?

In any case, after unchecking everything MSE, things are working properly again.

Indeed, thank you Ron.

Thanks to all for their input.
And sorry for the slip-ups.

Best,

A.

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#15 2021-02-05 02:26:30

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Perhaps you should ask on the PaleMoon forums. Be warned that the developers are complete arseholes though.

Why doesn't it surprise me that you of all who responded on this thread says that?

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#16 2021-02-05 05:18:10

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Why doesn't it surprise me that you of all who responded on this thread says that?

Please note that existential reflections are likely to serve their purpose better as separate, "off-top" threads.

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#17 2021-02-05 11:20:24

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Ron wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Perhaps you should ask on the PaleMoon forums. Be warned that the developers are complete arseholes though.

Why doesn't it surprise me that you of all who responded on this thread says that?

As someone who supports palemoon, yes they can be on certain issues, such as "piracy" which isn't really a word to be used in modern times because pirates killed people and took everything from people...

and sometimes they can be rough around the edges too.

That being said,  I prefer them over firefox developers and mozilla.  They at least have some purpose and aren't in it for greedy reasons like mozilla and firefox devs.

Also, I wonder if firefox is on its way out... they been firing devs more and more lately... hmm

Whatever happens though, I hope they get rid of rust trademark restrictions.


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#18 2021-02-05 11:53:32

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

I used palemoon for a little while ages ago, some reasons i stopped using it.

1. cannot firejail it, no sandbox features that i am aware of.

2. unable to use it for banking, bank website says to update the browser as it is too old.

3. depends on dbus and unable to install it without it.

Other than that it is a pretty lightweight resource efficient web browser, but so is ungoogled chromium.


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#19 2021-02-13 12:13:41

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

dice wrote:

1. cannot firejail it, no sandbox features that i am aware of.

we had a thread about that a while ago: Tips for using Palemoon
i'm not a firejail expert, but it appears to work for me.

dice wrote:

3. depends on dbus and unable to install it without it.

i dont have dbus and it works fine
the only thing i notice that there is a short error message when launching it from the terminal, but i just ignore the message and it works fine
you dont need to install a .deb package, just download the tarball from http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/

i have a Script to install/update/launch palemoon

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#20 2021-02-13 12:28:50

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

@alphalpha it has been awhile since ive installed and used palemoon, over a year i think, so it may have changed since then, will give it another try.

Edit:

Yep same issue im sure i had way back then using firejail and no dbus. I dont know what this means or how to dbug it.

~ $ firejail palemoon
Reading profile /etc/firejail/palemoon.profile
Reading profile /etc/firejail/firefox-common.profile
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-devel.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-interpreters.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-programs.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-var-common.inc
Warning: networking feature is disabled in Firejail configuration file
Parent pid 32324, child pid 32326
Warning: An abstract unix socket for session D-BUS might still be available. Use --net or remove unix from --protocol set.
Child process initialized in 94.01 ms
Error: no suitable palemoon executable found

Parent is shutting down, bye...

Last edited by dice (2021-02-13 12:39:26)


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#21 2021-02-13 13:28:37

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

@dice
looks like something is wrong in /etc/firejail/palemoon.profile

you could try to add

noblacklist ${HOME}/.config/palemoon
whitelist ${HOME}/.config/palemoon

and then launch it like this

firejail palemoon --profile ~/.config/palemoon

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#22 2021-02-13 13:52:17

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

^ still no luck adding those parameters.


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#23 2021-02-14 00:23:59

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

Edit, i found another solution, this worked with basilisk-browser, just run it this way:

if you using a tarball, try, firejail  ./basilisk-bin

firejail  /home/youruser/basilisk/basilisk-bin

change it however you like to the location of your web browser directory.

In your case, it would be

firejail palemoon-bin

Last edited by zapper (2021-02-14 00:49:44)


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#24 2021-02-14 10:55:01

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

zapper wrote:

Edit, i found another solution, this worked with basilisk-browser, just run it this way:

if you using a tarball, try, firejail  ./basilisk-bin

firejail  /home/youruser/basilisk/basilisk-bin

change it however you like to the location of your web browser directory.

In your case, it would be

firejail palemoon-bin

Not working for palemoon tarball.

it wants me to create a profile but when i do this appears. Im using the GTK3 tarball, perhaps i should try the GTK2 version.

Profile couldn’t be created. Probably the chosen folder isn’t writable.
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsIToolkitProfileService.createProfile]"  nsresult: "0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://mozapps/content/profile/createProfileWizard.js :: onFinish :: line 191"  data: no]

anyhow this is getting truly off topic for this thread. If the mods could be kind enough to split this off in their spare time. Maybe title it firejailing palemoon web browser.

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#25 2021-02-14 15:32:06

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Re: [Solved] On-line video viewing problem with Palemoon

dice wrote:
zapper wrote:

Edit, i found another solution, this worked with basilisk-browser, just run it this way:

if you using a tarball, try, firejail  ./basilisk-bin

firejail  /home/youruser/basilisk/basilisk-bin

change it however you like to the location of your web browser directory.

In your case, it would be

firejail palemoon-bin

Not working for palemoon tarball.

it wants me to create a profile but when i do this appears. Im using the GTK3 tarball, perhaps i should try the GTK2 version.

Profile couldn’t be created. Probably the chosen folder isn’t writable.
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsIToolkitProfileService.createProfile]"  nsresult: "0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://mozapps/content/profile/createProfileWizard.js :: onFinish :: line 191"  data: no]

anyhow this is getting truly off topic for this thread. If the mods could be kind enough to split this off in their spare time. Maybe title it firejailing palemoon web browser.

Why not make a new thread then?  Incidently, that error is odd, Let me see if I can get it working on beowulf devuan.

That is odd, it works on my devuan beowulf... hmm. the gtk3 one. Which devuan you using?

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