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#1626 Re: Installation » Disabling or changing size of swap PRIOR to guided install? » 2019-08-25 10:21:49

If /boot is on its own unencrypted partition, you don't need the cryptodisk line in /etc/default/grub. You only need that if /boot is part of the encrypted volume. Make sure to run 'update-grub' in the chrooted target after you add the line.

If you're using gpt with legacy/bios boot, grub needs a special partition, at least 1MB size, unformatted and type ef02 in gdisk or bios_grub in gparted.

#1627 Re: DIY » MX Repos for Devuan? » 2019-08-23 23:40:12

It's possible to selectively use some mx packages with devuan, but it would be a bad idea to add any other repos to your sources.

#1628 Re: Off-topic » What P2P program/utility/application are you using? » 2019-08-23 23:31:10

stanz wrote:
fsmithred & Ogis1975 wrote:

....qBittorrent

I've used qBittorrent allot also, ...and I really, really, really - don't like or trust 'clouds'.

asta...

You don't have to give them personal information, and you'll only be storing something that you're already making publically available. It either has to be on somebody else's computer or on yours.

#1629 Re: Off-topic » What P2P program/utility/application are you using? » 2019-08-23 11:53:52

I've used transmission for downloading, but when I wanted to seed an iso, I used qBittorent.

Make a dropbox account, upload the iso there and use that to seed instead of your computer at home. (Pretty sure that's what I did. Still on my first cup of coffee this morning, so I could be remembering wrong,)

#1630 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] [newbie] need help with minimal installation problem » 2019-08-21 13:18:28

setnet.sh is in the live isos, not the installer isos.

I never use conv=sync when I dd a usb stick, so I don't think that was the problem. Sounds like the classic problem of "Computers don't do what you want; they do what you tell them to do."

Glad you got it working.

#1631 Re: Off-topic » Knoppix 8.6 — first wide public release to abandon systemd » 2019-08-21 13:14:48

Here's a presentation by Klaus Knopper on why he does not need the complexity of systemd for Knoppix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDXsw2ijRkw

No great revelations. Just a neutral talk about what systemd does and what he had to do to replace it and trim down the system to where he wanted it.

#1632 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] [newbie] need help with minimal installation problem » 2019-08-20 11:12:26

First thing I would do is look behind the furniture for an ethernet outlet.

If you tried the minimal-live iso, it has firmware already installed. Run setnet.sh to configure wireless.

I don't know anything about your model of laptop, but you might want to take a look at this to see if you have any of the same problems: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=15

#1633 Re: Other Issues » Requesting bug reports » 2019-08-14 10:10:06

To start a bug report, send email to submit@bugs.devuan.org
To add a follow-up message, send email to NNN@bugs.devuan.org, where NNN is the bug number (without the '#')
I think you will get replies to the bug report. I can't tell what I got that's a reply to a bug report and what I got from the bug mailing list - thunderbird is not cooperating with my search efforts.

#1634 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » PulseAudio? Seriously!? » 2019-08-08 13:31:28

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Pulseaudio is a dependency for the XFCE desktop, if you don't want it then use a simple window manager instead;

XFCE gets pulseaudio through a chain of Recommends. It's not a hard dependency, and it's easy to avoid it. Just install without recommends. I haven't checked, but it's probably the same for the other desktops.

#1635 Re: DIY » Without Devuan , With Debian » 2019-08-07 19:12:58

If Kali has a git repo, you could clone the packages you want and build them in devuan. If they don't have that, you would need to compile from the source packages. It might also be possible to download their packages and install them on devuan.

I expect there would be a lot of work no matter which way you go.  You could do this inside a virtual machine and keep a snapshot of the unmodified system for easy restore to base state when it all gets too messy to fix.

#1636 Re: DIY » Without Devuan , With Debian » 2019-08-07 15:54:09

You would still need a /devuan repo to get the packages we modified, and you would probably need to pin all those packages to the devuan repo. I hope you're just thinking of this as an experiment.

#1637 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating since 7/30/19 » 2019-08-06 23:09:52

Thanks. All better now. (until next time) but there's some more logging going on to trace the problem.

#1638 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Jessie to Ascii causing X window issues » 2019-08-02 20:17:20

You either need to install elogind or edit Xwrapper.config to allow X to run as root. See the section on startiing X from console in the release notes:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt

#1639 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-08-02 11:14:45

W: GPG error: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org jessie Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C
W: GPG error: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org jessie-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C

apt install devuan-keyring
And say 'yes' to the scary warning.

W: Failed to fetch http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found

W: Failed to fetch http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found

Remove jessie-updates and jessie-backports from your sources. They no longer exist.

#1640 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2019-08-01 22:45:26

The fix appears to be the same, but the file is not. The last diff I posted was between the copy
of cryptdisks-functions in the mx package, which is named same as the original file in beowulf, against the cryptdisks.functions file from ascii. I didn't notice the different filenames when I ran the diff because I used tab-completion.

The diff between the mx version of the file and the original file in beowulf, looks a lot different. I haven't examined it closely, but it's obviously not the same file. It's too big to copy the whole thing from a terminal, so I pasted it here:
https://termbin.com/xle7
This is really the diff between cryptdisks-functions in beowulf and cryptdisks.functions+patch in ascii
Unless antix or mx is still using cryptsetup 1.7, they should update their package to use the file from cryptsetup 2.1. for buster.

They also didn't include the fix for lvm. Here's what I changed in beowulf:

diff -u cryptdisks-functions.orig-2.1.0-5  cryptdisks-functions.patched 
--- cryptdisks-functions.orig-2.1.0-5	2019-08-01 22:24:09.400000000 +0000
+++ cryptdisks-functions.patched	2019-07-19 02:03:11.972000000 +0000
@@ -179,7 +179,18 @@
 
 # Removes all mappings in crypttab
 do_stop() {
+
+    local vgs vg
+
     dmsetup mknodes
+       if [ -x /sbin/lvm ]; then
+        vgs="$(/sbin/lvm vgscan | sed -n '/"/s/^.*"\([^'\'']*\)".*$/\1/p')"
+         if [ -n "${vgs}" ]; then
+          for vg in ${vgs}; do
+           /sbin/lvm vgchange -a n ${vg} >/dev/null 2>&1 
+          done 
+         fi
+        fi
     log_action_begin_msg "Stopping $INITSTATE crypto disks"
 
     crypttab_foreach_entry _do_stop_callback
@@ -187,7 +198,7 @@
 }
 _do_stop_callback() {
     local i rv=0
-    for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32; do
+    for i in 1 2 ; do
         remove_mapping "$CRYPTTAB_NAME" 3<&- && break || rv=$?
         if [ $rv -eq 1 ] || [ $rv -eq 2 -a $i -gt 16 ]; then
             log_action_end_msg $rv

#1641 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2019-08-01 02:00:28

Yes, it's the same solution. Here's the diff against the same file in ascii. The advantage of the mx/antix package is that it uses dpkg-divert to keep the file from being clobbered on upgrades. Do they have a version for buster?

diff -u /usr/lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions  cryptdisks-functions 
--- /usr/lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks.functions	2017-05-09 11:50:59.000000000 +0000
+++ cryptdisks-functions	2018-11-30 03:02:16.000000000 +0000
@@ -769,7 +769,7 @@
 	log_action_begin_msg "Stopping $INITSTATE crypto disks"
 
 	egrep -v "^[[:space:]]*(#|$)" "$TABFILE" | while read dst src key opts; do
-		for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32; do
+		for i in 1 ; do
 			handle_crypttab_line_stop "$dst" "$src" "$key" "$opts" <&3 && break || ret=$?
 			if [ $ret -eq 1 ] || [ $ret -eq 2 -a $i -gt 16 ]; then
 				log_action_end_msg $ret

#1642 Re: Installation » Migrate from Debian 10 to Devuan » 2019-07-29 19:10:24

I tried it with a small install (just standard system utilities) and a big install (kde). Neither one was easy, but it is possible. I won't attempt to give you instructions. Even if I looked at my command history, I wouldn't be able to tell you what worked and what didn't.

Don't try it on a system you care about. Not now, anyway.

#1643 Re: Devuan » What should I know before "diving in" » 2019-07-25 11:46:27

A fresh install should go smoothly. The installer isos are just like installing debian. The live isos use refractainstaller. Install guides can be found on this page. (scroll down about half way)
https://devuan.org/get-devuan

#1644 Re: Installation » I can't install beowulf using mini.iso » 2019-07-25 11:38:42

Confirmed. No boot menu in uefi boot. Must be a grub.cfg missing. Next iso should be better.

#1645 Re: Other Issues » jessie - backports no longer available? packages show as local » 2019-07-24 22:09:25

it seems it's still possible to access the backports through archive.debian.org.
Is there a same thing for devuan?

Packages that we don't change can be downloaded from archive.debian.org and installed manually. Don't add the repo.

Packages that we do change can be found here. You have to know what version you want. The Packages.gz file for jessie-backports is empty, so I'm not even sure if the packages you find in pool will be for jessie-backports.
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/

I'll see if I can find out more.

#1647 Re: Other Issues » jessie - backports no longer available? packages show as local » 2019-07-23 17:11:32

No more jessie-backports or jessie-updates. Just jessie and jessie-security still work.

#1648 Re: Installation » Upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf » 2019-07-23 10:54:54

Looks like ascii has both of those versions. Am I looking at the wrong package?

$ apt-cache policy emacs25
emacs25:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 25.1+1-4+deb9u1
  Version table:
     25.1+1-4+deb9u1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages

$ apt-cache policy emacs24
emacs24:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 24.5+1-11+deb9u1
  Version table:
     24.5+1-11+deb9u1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Package

#1649 Re: Installation » Upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf » 2019-07-23 01:48:11

It depends on what you have installed and how good you are at getting around conflicts with the package manager. Scratch that. Package managers. Plural. Start with apt or apt-get upgrade, probably a couple times with a reboot in there, then try the dist upgrade and switch to aptitude when apt (and you) can't figure out what to do next.

Is this a system you actually use to do things you want to do? If it works, don't mess with it.

#1650 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Serial console install » 2019-07-23 00:43:30

If you're getting a grub prompt instead of a normal boot menu, the easiest thing to do is use that command line to boot the installed system. Then you can run update-grub to generate a new boot menu.

grub prompt looks like this:

grub>

If you iinstalled the system on /dev/sda1, you would use the following commands:

set root=(hd0,msdos1)
linux /vmlinux ro root=/dev/sda1
initrd /initrd.img
boot

Note: it's possible your computer will see the usb as the first drive. In that case, (hd0,msdos1) would need to be changed to (hd1,msdos1). You can use tab-completion to figure it out. Type set root=(hd0 and press TAB (maybe twice) and it will show you the partitions on that drive.

Once you've booted the system run update-grub

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