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Great! It's the permissions I was reffering to. But glad you got it working.
Nice one, thanks! :-)
Like @rolfie said, ease of return just in case is best for me.
Like memory sticks IMHO, are far too big for general use, but fs (fat) is too small for large iso s and videos @ 4gb max... Not suited for purpose!
My new spinner is a Seagate Baracooder, 4Tb st4000DM004.
I'll never fill it the way I'm going.
All are Debian (or Debian based)... so it just may work.
Chase down the name of the module so you can do a more accurate search.
Hi, talking about permissions...
I used to run windows on a virtual (box) machine, and I used these changes to smooth the way...
#chown -hR vboxusers:vboxusers /opt/VirtualBox/VBox.sh
#chown -hR vboxusers:vboxusers /usr/bin/VirtualBox
#chmod -R 755 /usr/bin/VirtualBox
#chmod -R 755 /opt/VirtualBox/VBox.sh
#chgrp -h glenn /home/glenn/local/vm1/
#chmod -R 755 /home/glenn/local/vm1/Just sharing the idea... I hope it helps.
Usually memtest is a boot option with most iso's.
I'd guess the cpu is getting too hot or you may have corrosion on the mainboard (ram or ram slots), or the ram sticks are failing.
It's a shame when hardware goes this way, oxidation is like a cancer, it slowly spreads.
I've lost expensive hardware (motherboard, graphics card and ram) this way living in a seaside paradise.
memtests, short but deep...
Test 2 [Address test, own address]
Same as test 1 but the testing is done using multiple CPUS, if applicable.
Test 9 [Modulo 20, Random pattern]
Using the Modulo-X algorithm should uncover errors that are not detected by moving inversions due to cache and buffering interference with the algorithm. tap@devuan:~$ man wife
No manual entry for wife
tap@devuan:~$
glenn@GamesBox ~ $ man life
No manual entry for life
glenn@GamesBox ~ $ :-)
Hi, going back to your installation problem getting / /usr and /home directories used...
you won't be able to use your old / or /usr directory because it will cause conflicts, I think with linking. But...
during install at the partitioning stage, if you want to use your /home directory... when at the fs stage (partitioning, filesystem spec and formatting)
select your fs type, and mount point (/home) but do not select "format the partition". That should get you back to your home files after the install has finished.
If you have multiple drives and swap spaces, go to the other drives and deselect those swap spaces by selecting "do not use this partition" for those swap spaces.
This can help to reduce shutdown time and cross-contamination, but also stops the installer from issuing new uuid's for those swap spaces, which can mess up the other installs booting procedure (can't find swap).
About wifi, I have the firmware file for my wifi/bt card on a flash-drive, that I insert just before starting the install program, it may or may not be your problem.
Yours may be, firmware-realtek, unpack it and place the "iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-46.ucode" (in my case, intel wifi) file on a memory stick.
All the best.
@nixer, I recently found the same outcomes.
I had used the debian multimedia repo as well (for ffmulticonverter,) and found that the devuan repo had caught up and dmo was no longer required for that package's dependants.
It's good to know where we can source these updated packages, but also good to find devuan repo is not far behind, and possibly stable for the over-all system and upgrades.
things evolve...
As for intel/nvidia laptops... I set mine up last week and for the first time the nouveau driver loaded, all from the default Devuan/Daedalus install with updates.
In the past I tried to blacklist the intel module, using vesa but to no avail. the intel module was the one that gave me a gui from boot.
I think the nvidia chip is a 107m... it's about 10 years old.
I hope this helps...
you can check your partitions with lsblk, blkid and cat fstab. line up the uuid's and edit /etc/fstab.
change the uuid from the new /home to your old one... and save it (you'll need root permissions to do most of this).
Before you reboot, rsync your new home to your old home to refresh any start scripts...
rsync -avh will only over-write with newer files, leaving the rest intact.
I did this just last week, and it works.
welcome to hawaii
Some links to pics of the battery and heatsink operation.
I've tried to show the keyboard and screen dimming, as mentioned in a post about laptops...
also, not very clearly the well used/abused headphone socket which probably is reducing the apparent right side speaker and headphone volume level. I haven't tested BT, but I expect a usb external sound card to work.
There may be a better way to show pics, I'm not familiar enough with the process to remember and repeat a best practice.
I thought a link to the 'ibb.co' laptop-update picture repository may have been better, but I dislike links that take me away from the forum... what's better? I'd prefer not to rewrite a webpage.
13 images, Laptop-update, replaced battery and reseated heatsinks.
https://ibb.co/album/Jv2xLs
Thank you
Hi, look at your services for hwclock.sh will take your bios time and use it to convert to your locale.
I found that the bios time needed to be set UTC so the locale would represent the correct time here...
If you have no network connection it may remember the time from a setting during the OS installation.
I used to try and set the correct date & time in the bios, but every OS wants to change it, putting my file-access time forward and generally making a mess.
So, set the bios to UTC and let the locales and hwclock will make the adjustment for you.
btw, using Open-Rc, rc-update (as root) lists the services.
I hope this helps.
here is a list of deps for wpa-supplicant... there maybe others.
I didn't include the version numbers because I'm on Daedalus. I hope this helps.
wpasupplicant
deps...
libc6
libdbus
libnl
libnl_genl
libnl-route
libpclite
libreadline8
linssl3
adduserI setup wifi on the command-line
and here is how you can setup wifi on the command line.
wpa_passphrase {ssid} {password} > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.confall the best
What's wrong with rsync -avh source destination (?)
wicd is not available with chimeara, but it is with beowulf (and ascii).
I think the other main change (for me) was su is changed to su -
Chimeara has Songwrite... and sysinit orphan startup scripts...
my 2 cents worth.
regards Glenn
Nuclear energy production creates waste, that waste remains radio active waste for a very, very long time,
and remains dangerous to biological life...
IMO, I wouldn't call it Clean, unless they changed the definition of that word too.
this may not be useful, but
quite some time ago I tried usrmerge... and as I had began to think as well, But I thought I was imagining things...
Not just /usr merge of /bin and /sbin, other things are broken as well.
At one point I "ln -s" the directories instead of using usrmerge and the system seemed to work ok.
I didn't stick with it, but the experiment was wonder-full.
Something was broken, possible only revealed when compiling (making and installing) a kernel or software.
...because of the constant drop-outs I have tried a few gui to control and visualise the connection and traffic.
Still a work in progress.
I have a few hacks I want to try, like removing pulseaudio, but networkmanager was not on my list.
I liked wicd with the older versions of Devuan because it seem simple and effective,
but some of the older packages are harder to install which creates more problems.
btw, when I said I upgraded from ascii through to Daedalus,
I had frozen (pinned) the kernel version and eventually it (the installation) broke because of the older libc version limitations.
I am currently working through a Lynis report to find things to patch (install, upgrade or obfuscate).
All the best.
Hi.
I'm sending this message via my asus N550jv laptop, fully loaded with Trinity|Daedalus.
A recent bpo kernel
glenn@trinity:~$ uname -a
Linux trinity 6.6.13+bpo-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.6.13-1~bpo12+1 (2024-02-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux
glenn@trinity:~$The keyboard and display brightness Fn keys work.
I had wicd working for a bit, but then it was removed.
I setup wifi on the command-line
wpa_passphrase {ssid} {password} > /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.confThe wifi is working, but drops out a lot!
I finally got the keys to work with the config editor, once I figured out how to add US and AUS, I got rid of the Brittish keys and now # and | are where I'm used to using them.
@aluma Thanks for the tips. Got me out of the hole I was in. :-)
I looked into most of the other tips as well, and tried a few.
Once I partitioned with dos-mbr, I could boot and then after installing ascii, then upgrading to beowulf, and then chimeara, and then to daedalus...
a real pain,
but found that it was just one of those 6.1 kernels that was causing most of my problems, then
I had a runnaway kernel... dumping heaps of text to the screen that I could only switch the laptop off (power button still worked)...
then did a clean install of Daedalus/xfce4 and converted to trinity as instructed in a post here from @aluma.
That did the trick although the wifi was extremely faulty, I eventually made a list and installed most of the packages piece-by-piece, in small groups.
I have amarok installed and is playing music, confirming the sound system is running. (Firmware_intel_sound package in this case)
I'm really happy with this setup, I'm loving it.
Next I'll have a go at tethering the iPhone.
I have some pics of when I changed the battery a few weeks ago (this WIP has taken nearly a month) and I'll share those with you soon.
Thanks for all the help, it was invaluable.
Thank you very much for your time and considerations.
Kind regards, Glenn
@aluma: Thanks
But... I need the modules from the older kernels.
So, I'll follow those instructions, but in-between times I'll use something like,
I found this helpful during BT firmware and module loading... and
for when changing /etc/modules, including /etc/modules.d/
update-initramfs -u -k allAlso, I've added tde to the apt/sources.d from the failed install, (it installed, but I had no sound, wifi, eth, and a few other things) and
thought I may be able to gradually upgrade to the current tde desktop but keeping the functionality of the older kernels.
ps, I was looking for that page... thanks.
I just got a copy of Hacking Exposed, Linux 3rd edition.
600 pages, I hope I learn more about securing my box. :-)
@quickfur: Nice one(s)! Love the algerbra...
Hi, I'll look into that new kernel very soon for my main desktop box, running Daedalus plasma5.
I have just completed a new install on my laptop, asus n550jv... with Devuan ascii. With a new battery, and a clean ssd (dos-mbr partitioned, finally)
I did this because the newer kernel with Daedalus did not load my sound chipset and quite a few other things although the screen and keyboard dimming was working.
I've just checked the sound operation with a .mp3 playing through vlc and it sounds ok.
I've put it aside for now, I still have the network devices (wifi and tethering to the iPhone) to set up... some research will be required.
I'm very happy with the laptop at the moment, although I'm not used to the apps with xfce4... I'll look into it.
The day before yesterday I had trinity setup on the laptop, and it looked good, but too many chipset errors like, keyboard characters Getting pound instead of hash and others..., eth (nic) wifi and sound in particular. WIP! But the graphics card was used by default which was a nice change to see it was actually working (with nouveau)
I endeavour to slowly migrate back to the recent kernel versions and trinity desktop, but keeping an eye on the modules required for that set up.
I had found a faulty re-purposed flashdrive (rarely used, parrot-live) that was giving some serious looking errors and freezing the system on this desktop box, a new kernel and clean install may help to resolve those.
As well as that I binned the faulty flashdrive. I have to draw the line somewhere.
@oui: I'm glad to see you are making progress.
@aluma
I think I remember now, how this occurred,
The partition table was MBR before I changed it to GPT, that way the MBR bootable flag was set, and GPT protected it from being written over.
And therefore the disk was found as a bootable device by the bios.
I'll have to keep this in mind next time I experiment.
If I wipe the table, first prior to installing the OS, setup the dos-mbr, and then after a reboot (or dis-mount & remount)...
setup GPT partiton table and make the partitions, and then install the OS.
Next-up, setting up tethering to my iPhone (as per the instructions found on this forum (but it's for a newer OS Devuan 4/5))
to this trinity OS. I like the look of trinity, and when I'm traveling I just need the laptop for a few things,
like internet banking, simple time absorbing game Like OpenTTD ;-) and access to music and movies off my ssd.
I've seen some errors about chipset driver modules, sound not found... maybe it's the newer kernels have depreciated the older hardware. (it's not bit-creep but corp-creep... obsolete(ing) old hardware to make us buy more back-doored junk) ymmv.
Might see if I can get an older kernel from an older iso... or somewhere else, maybe kernel.org has some ver 3 or 4 (not 6) I can use.
More hacking... :-)
one day at a time.
Cheers!
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YES! https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/
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Hi, thank you for all the suggestions. Much appreciated.
Last night I repartitioned and setup a dos-mbr, and installed trinity to the 4 partitions I setup.
It's booting as normal now, thanks again.
The pc-linux live system has a whole bunch of tools, but I couldn't get any of them to fix the install of Devuan Daedalus plasma at that install attempt.
Still, it's good to know there are tools out there.
I was a bit stubborn about gpt over dos, and I noticed the Flags were a bit different.
Thanks again. Have a great weekend.
my box is running with out pulseaudio as such, I do have pipewire-pulse installed and the system wants to remove everything if I try to remove pipewire-pulse... dependencies.
But I've chimed in because no one has mentioned wireplumber.
It does behave like pulse as a sound/media server, so may not be apparent if you're only running one stream at a time.
I also still use ~.xsessionrc to load the sound apps when the system starts at login to plasma/kde.
I purged my system of anything related to pulse except pipewire-pulse, and I think libpulseaudio.so
And also removed the startup scrip.
here is a copy of some notes I've kept (copied from these forums), including the ~.xsessionrc start script from this forum as well.
Those who are familiar with setting their sound card with alsa will have no problem removing pulse...and yes, I've removed it with no issues on actual installations. Just run these commands...
apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio*
apt-get remove --purge pavucontrol*
apt-get autoremove
After that, set your soundcard with alsa (if needed), reboot, and bam! Sound without pulsification! tongue big_smile
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rm -rf /usr/share/kpackage/kcms/kcm_pulseaudio /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-16.1.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-1.0/libgstpulseaudio.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/avkys/libAudioDevice_pulseaudio.so /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio
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https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2934
apt-get install aumix menu alsa-lib alsa-plugins alsa-utils
$ alsamixer
unmute channels with letter m
Ensure alsa-utils is installed.
login to terminal as root, set sound card and volumes:
=>alsamixer
F6 sound card, select "whataver appears other than default"
set master, speaker, headphone to 100% (or whatever)
exit
=>alsactl store
You may want to install a nice panel volume app: volumeicon-alsa
You may want to install a nice mixer: qasmixer
You can purge pulseaudio packages, but libpulse0* packages are required, do not remove these.
The dependencies of Pulse with the desktop are due to installing the desktop meta-packages.
Thus when you try to purge Pulse, it appears that it wants to remove "the desktop".
Not going to say or recommend purging Pulse (but I do with no problems).
When installing desktop with --no-install-recommends, you can more control what gets installed (no Pulse).
Dont know about Firefox requirements.
I have run LXQT, XFCE, KDE successfully without Pulse (no Firefox).
EDIT: i just found another elegant mpv player that does quite the same as above similarly for firefox quantum!
https://github.com/woodruffw/ff2mpv
You can see what packages depend on a package via rdepends:
apt rdepends gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio
And you can "try-out" a purge of a package by use of the -s option, to see what would be removed along with it:
apt -s purge gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio
apt policy pulseaudio
# check available outputs
aplay -l
ALthough it took a little while to find the answer for HDMI devices showing up before the one you wish to use, the answer is a one liner.
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=110572#p525601
The method I use is
E485:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
options snd-hda-intel index=1
E485:~$
It's also possible to use ~/.asoundrc to set the default card, antiX has a tool that will do this to switch cards in their PA-free desktop.
See also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Alternative_method
So yeah, ALSA by itself can be a tricky little devil. Which is why PA is so omnipresent.
Really good DE such as TDE and LXDE don't depend on PA./home/glenn/.xsessionrc...
# kill any existing pipewire instance to restore sound
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/wireplumber 1>/dev/null 2>&1
pkill -u "$USER" -fx /usr/bin/pipewire 1>/dev/null 2>&1
exec /usr/bin/pipewire &
# wait for pipewire to start before attempting to start related daemons
while [ "$(pgrep -f /usr/bin/pipewire)" = "" ] ; do
sleep 1
done
exec /usr/bin/wireplumber &
exec /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse &I hope this helps