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I think you'll have to tell the Pale Moon developers about their broken POS software
We've been discussing it with Ron on the palemoon forum. The rest of us who use that "broken POS software" don't seem to have the same problem. But, if Ron is able to provide enough information and wants to persist in finding a solution, we'll probably get there eventually.
You'll be relieved to hear that "that fat **** Tobin" is gone from the forum by the way. His millions of adoring fans are in mourning.
So are those Steve Pusser's and Vivaldi's own .deb packages, respectively?
They both bundle their own libraries in flagrant violation of Debian policy[1] so I would advise trying a browser from the Devuan repositories instead.
This is a good point. I hadn't mentioned it to Ron, but on 64-bit systems I use the official LInux tar-ball from the palemoon website instead of Steve Pusser's .deb package: http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/
For 32-bit, there's no tarball so I do use Steve's .deb.
I was not aware that Steve may be bundling libraries in a manner that violates The Debian Way(TM). I'm surprised he hasn't been summarily executed for his capital offense. If Ron is using the .deb packages, he may want to try switching to the tarball from the website. Instructions are all there for getting it "installed" [linking the binary] and getting it to update itself: http://linux.palemoon.org/help/installation/
If I recall from past usage, if you switch back and forth between the tarball binary and the .deb package, you get to keep your profile and your extensions and bookmarks and so forth. So it's a pretty easy thing to try switching. It runs quite well for me, especially the most recent version which seems to have quite a few performance enhancements.
Use the one that's the default for the distro you are using - that's the one that will get the most love and attention from the distro's developers, and will give you the most trouble-free experience. On Devuan and antiX and Slackware, that's sysvinit. On Artix, that's openrc. On Void, that's runit.
a) I've removed Firefox-esr many times from Devuan Beowulf installs and never had this problem. Haven't tried it with Chimaera yet, but - lesson learned!!! Don't mess with the big Foxxy, or you'll get burned!
2) How many old, obscure, book-length forum posts does a person have to read to have a sane experience with Debian? Four years into this Debian-based distro experiment, and I'm still stunned by the jaw-dropping randomity of the various bits of important information. It's like giving all your money in $1 bills to a 3-year-old and watching him hide it from you in every part of the house and yard and neighborhood.
D) I didn't need a part D, but I like the aesthetic. The post seems more balanced this way.
Hmm ...
No idea as to how to do that.
Never done that.
I don't know what TestDisk is, but here's some simple instructions for fdisk: https://linuxize.com/post/fdisk-command-in-linux/
"o" should create a new DOS partition table for you.
andyprough wrote:AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros
The quality of packaging in the AUR tends to be pretty poor so I'm not sure if that's particularly desirable.
But as you probably know, the real value of the AUR is for people like us to look at the PKGBUILD and see where they got a binary or piece of source code from, and if there are any useful hints on how to compile it or install it. Saves a lot of time in some cases.
The fact that actual AUR users want to be guinea pigs for someone else's experimentation is not really the point.
I have done and booted Devuan with 20MB with 32bit not very long ago.
20mb, wow! I've seen 45mb on videos of extreme gentoo minimization, but 20mb is getting back to early 1990's kind of computing. That's very impressive for Devuan.
The Linux-libre 4.4 kernel is still being maintained as part of the Super LTS project, I should give it a shot on that 32-bit antiX, see if it loses any additional weight.
That's interesting, especially the ability to get parallel downloads going like on Arch. And on the nala github page, it has a link to a new(ish) AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros, 'pacstall': https://github.com/pacstall/pacstall
Looks like pacstall has a bunch of packages, might be worth checking out. Lots of cool new toys to check out today.
My 90MB startup effort, yes yes i used to have below a few years ago, but nowdays it's a bit hard to stay tight living with dbus, gtk3 and a few startup services.
I've been playing around with 32-bit antiX on a 64-bit computer the past couple of days, and it boots into icewm with 74mb of ram. And that's without me lifting a finger to minimize anything. That's about half of what antiX normally runs at. Runs kind of herky jerky, with a lot of brief freezes whenever I try to do anything complex. But fun to toy with.
I'm going to have to try 32-bit Devuan on the same laptop, see what kind of reduced memory tricks I can squeeze out of it.
By the way, your b*tchcat fetch doesn't seem very b*tchy today.
Here is my current dwm.desktop Things just hang on boot attempt with tbsm. i3 & xfce work just fine. When I enable lightdm everything works fine. I feel really slow....
[Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=dwm Comment=dynamic window manager icon=dwm Type=Application Exec=/home/mark/.local/bin/autostart/dwm.sh Terminal=false Type=Application
Using the suckless autostart patch would work, then your .desktop file would simply have the 'Exec=dwm' line. But it sounds like tbsm probably won't work with a hand-crafted script like you are using. That's unfortunate.
Appears from reading what the Ublock origin team says, "it depends". Depends on which filter lists are currently enabled, what those filter lists are currently doing to Google Analytics on which sites, and on which site you visit. For example, the filter lists don't want to break Youtube for everyone or people would stop using the lists.
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/c … analytics/
Might need to use noscript (or use Ublock origin in advanced mode) if you want to manually ensure that the GA js is always turned off.
I have it working for i3 & xfce @andyprough but because I start dwm via a script (my autostart functions) I have to find a way to point to the dwm bash script location.
Oh interesting. Could you just make a dwm.desktop file and point it at your dwm autostart script I wonder? Something like
Desktop Entry]
Name=DWM
Comment=Window manager for the X11 Window System
Exec=~/.dwm/autostart.sh
Terminal=false
Type=Application
or something?
I don't know - I just use vanilla dwm with a few updated keybindings these days. Trying to maximize my memory availability for some VMs that I run. Maybe HOAS would have a better idea for you on a way for tbsm to start that script.
EDIT: I'm reading the tbsm documentation. tbsm is just a bash shell script that is not in active development. And the docs say it only handles .desktop files, so you'd have to get that autostart script to launch via a dwm.desktop file I believe. Similar to the one I posted I think.
You might try tbsm if you're looking for a tty login manager.
git clone https://github.com/loh-tar/tbsm
cd tbsm
sudo make install
Works incredible on Devuan. I've been using it for over a year.
EDIT: and suckless have already incorporated pledge(2) into the source code, which is nice.
Wow! Do we have anything like pledge in Linux-land? Looks like a security must-have.
that is what i do, just git clone that way i can update it via git if there is a version change, update, etc.
openbsd needs no extra packages to make dwm, you just need to uncomment a few lines in the config.mk file that openbsd needs to run and the config.mk file tells you what to do via comments.
I comment out the Xinerama fields in the config.mk as i dont use more than one screen so not needed in my case.
Nice, I'm going to have to try it soon. Very much appreciated.
I play around with a few linux but my main machine runs encrypted openbsd and dwm / suckless setup. I think in future i will base most of my computer needs around if it will work properly on openbsd first. I like where Devuan is heading being init free but that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the future of computing.
Regarding DWM, I'm assuming you can just 'git clone' and 'make install' like on Devuan? Does openbsd have all the libxft-dev libx11-dev and libxinerama-dev dependencies?
andyprough wrote:You mis-spelled...
So did you.
Alternative forms
mis-spell
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/misspell
'Misspell' is most commonly mis-spelled as "mispell", whereas 'misspelled' is most commonly mis-spelled as "misspelt". Misspell is one of the 100 most commonly mis-spelled words in English, but not in its alternate form 'mis-spell'.
jacksprat wrote:systemD
What is that? Do you in fact mean "systemd"? FFS...
The OP was probably referring to IBM's system-D and just missed the hyphen. No need to get angry over a simple missed key press.
That already exists: https://www.pkgsrc.org/
You mis-spelled https://github.com/void-linux/xbps. See? Keyboard errors can happen to anyone.
Don't be silly. Governments put backdoors in places like hard drive controller firmware where the operating system is irrelevant. EDIT: that even works with coreboot
Not true - as we found out from Snowden, the NSA guys don't care about your hard drive. They spend all their time trying to use your webcam to see people walking around naked in your house.
"webcamd" is probably built into the systemd "parental controls" module just for that purpose.
A word of warning though: opponents of systemd probably won't like the BSDs because all of the user space utilities are developed by the exact same team that provides /sbin/init, just like with Lennart & co...
So you're saying they all get paid by IBM to put backdoors into the BSDs so that government spies can steal all our data?
The gemlog is moving very slow for lacking of time... 😞
But there's so much detail in your posts, and they are so well organized. And you've linked to a lot of useful gemini tools. It's a perfect place for an aspiring geminaut like myself to sit down and learn.
Have you looked into openbsd much? I've heard and read from a lot of people who are dismayed by the direction that GNU/Linux has gone (similar to you, based on some of your gemlogging) are turning to openbsd. If you have thoughts on why freebsd is superior, I'd be interested to hear them.
Eventually you can still continue to use the classic method as described in these Gemini links:
gemini://gnuser.land/gemlog/2021-07-02-telescope-part-one.gmi
gemini://gnuser.land/gemlog/2022-01-26-compiling-lagrange-on-debian-devuan-part-02.gmi
Is that your gemini capsule? That's very well organized and filled with useful links. I'm going to make that my Lagrange homepage for awhile.
Ceres and Void Linux coexisting with the help of Bedrock. Uncluttered xfce desktop.
https://ia601401.us.archive.org/14/item … _16-54.jpg
Just a note in passing - This Bedrock setup with Devuan Ceres and Void has been my daily driver since early December now, very stable, hasn't given me a hint of problems. Color me impressed. I'm going to keep using it, because it exposes a vast amount of packages and is very light on system resources.
i cant see your image andy?
Here you go. My image hosting website auto-deleted it, so I'm hosting it on my Internet Archive account instead:
Not much to see, I've just been playing around with it and haven't changed the LXQT theme or icons or anything. FireDragon web browser is quite a nice browser in my experience so far. It's got a lot of the privacy settings from LibreWolf, but a different set of settings options. Artix is now requiring that the "universe" repo be manually added in order to access most web browsers - instructions on adding universe are here: https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Repositories
Another interesting point is that by default FireDragon uses the "Whoogle" web search engine from the Garuda Linux project. I had never heard of it before, but it is described as "Google search results, but without any ads, javascript, AMP links, cookies, or IP address tracking" - https://github.com/benbusby/whoogle-search. Might be worth playing around with, although I'm not a fan of Google's heavily censored search results. Could be a good alternative to Startpage though, for those few occasions when I do want to look at Google's search results and SearX isn't giving them properly.
Dinit was giving me a cgroups message when the system was booting up. In the Artix forum I'm reading that cgroups support is "crude", just mounting the cgroups file system like on runit. Full cgroups support is supposed to be brought in after the dinit 1.0 release. Currently Artix is on the 0.12.0-5 release of dinit.
Having a little fun today with an Artix spin. It uses the "dinit" init/service manager (which I know almost nothing about, but am reading its cool history), and has its own fork of Firefox called "FireDragon" (which has some pretty nice default settings and unique settings options). Desktop is kind of a vanilla LXQT.
I must be missing something, otherwise this wouldn't be an enigma to me.
Dynamic tiling. Once you get used to it, everything else feels deficient by design.