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#1 2022-02-09 14:05:45

manyroads
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Nala (a prettier apt?)

If you are interested in finding a better (prettier?) looking (new) cli tool to perform most apt terminal functions Nala is worth a look.  I have installed and run it successfully to perform my most common tasks successfully on PeppermintOS (Debian) and MXLinux (non-systemd Debian). Here's a link to the development site and software.  Should you want to try it out....

https://salsa.debian.org/volian-team/nala


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#2 2022-02-09 19:31:35

andyprough
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

That's interesting, especially the ability to get parallel downloads going like on Arch. And on the nala github page, it has a link to a new(ish) AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros, 'pacstall': https://github.com/pacstall/pacstall

Looks like pacstall has a bunch of packages, might be worth checking out. Lots of cool new toys to check out today.


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#3 2022-02-09 20:56:19

manyroads
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

@andyprough here's the deb file(s):  https://gitlab.com/volian/nala/-/releases


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#4 2022-02-10 15:49:17

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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

andyprough wrote:

AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros

The quality of packaging in the AUR tends to be pretty poor so I'm not sure if that's particularly desirable.

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#5 2022-02-10 18:30:02

rolfie
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

Don't break your Devuan ...

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#6 2022-02-10 19:07:46

andyprough
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
andyprough wrote:

AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros

The quality of packaging in the AUR tends to be pretty poor so I'm not sure if that's particularly desirable.

But as you probably know, the real value of the AUR is for people like us to look at the PKGBUILD and see where they got a binary or piece of source code from, and if there are any useful hints on how to compile it or install it. Saves a lot of time in some cases.

The fact that actual AUR users want to be guinea pigs for someone else's experimentation is not really the point.


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#7 2022-02-10 20:49:27

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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

i don't get the obsession with getting an aur like thing into debian when the aur is trash, why not aim for something better, like nix derivations, that way these "independient" packages integrate better into the package manager unlike the hack that is the aur.


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#8 2022-02-10 21:02:41

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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

There use to be a few well maintained third party repositories.  I especially remember that getdeb.net and playdeb.net were very useful for Ubuntu users.  I guess maintaining a quality repository is just to big of a job.

It seems to me that if the content of the AUR is submitted by the users, Then those same users could review the content that is submitted.   I believe a few extra steps in the process could improve the AUR greatly.

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#9 2022-02-11 13:58:49

manyroads
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

I'm not sure AUR bashing has an awful lot to do with nala.... but that's probably just me.


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#10 2022-02-11 17:53:23

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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

Oops, sorry Mark, my fault.

nala looks very interesting, I'm always a sucker for terminal eye-candy, so thanks for the share :-)

Scrot of the pretty colours:

20220211-17h52m00s-grim.png

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#11 2022-06-22 04:56:40

SpongeBOB
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

manyroads wrote:

... and MXLinux (non-systemd Debian).

Can you confirm that you run MXLinux on sysvinit ?
Last time I tried it was systemd and during the install no choice to choose sysvinit.
Thanks

ps -p 1

Linux noob, plz be kind big_smile

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#12 2022-06-22 05:02:27

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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

is nala depend on apt ?

or could we remove apt ? like apt purge apt ? big_smile

Last edited by SpongeBOB (2022-06-22 13:46:52)


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#13 2022-08-16 17:52:09

towwire
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Re: Nala (a prettier apt?)

Since manyroads or Mark has not answer yet, I will answer for him. On the MX-forum they ask for this since some enable repo's they should not keep enabled. Go to the bottom and see Init: SysVinit v: 2.96.


Snapshot created on: 20220315_1001
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-17-amd64 [5.10.136-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-17-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.1_x64 Wildflower October 20  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: F2A88X-UP4 v: x.x serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: F8a date: 12/14/2015 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: AMD A10-7850K Radeon R7 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G bits: 64 
           type: MCP arch: Steamroller family: 15 (21) model-id: 30 (48) stepping: 1 
           microcode: 6003106 cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 29545 
           Speed: 1697 MHz min/max: 1700/3700 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1697 
           2: 1694 3: 1696 4: 1697 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected 
           Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] vendor: Gigabyte driver: radeon v: kernel 
           alternate: amdgpu bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:130f class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") 
           s-diag: 582mm (22.9") 
           Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 82 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2") diag: 686mm (27") 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD KAVERI (DRM 2.50.0 5.10.0-17-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:01.1 chip-ID: 1002:1308 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1022:780d class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-17-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.75 TiB used: 176.5 GiB (6.3%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Silicon Power model: SPCC Solid State Disk 
           size: 953.87 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 4A0 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DM001-1CH164 size: 1.82 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 
           serial: <filter> rev: CC27 scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 30.5 GiB size: 29.85 GiB (97.87%) used: 11.09 GiB (37.2%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-3: /home raw-size: 30.5 GiB size: 29.85 GiB (97.87%) used: 15.72 GiB (52.7%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb1 
           maj-min: 8:17 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 33.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 4.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2051 fan-2: 637 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 0 
           Power: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: N/A vbat: 3.14 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2329 lib: 1230 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 240 Uptime: 2h 23m wakeups: 1 Memory: 30.32 GiB used: 2.44 GiB (8.0%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

MX Linux ships with two init systems: SysVinit (default) and systemd. If you wanted to boot systemd you need to use the advance options in grub to boot it, otherwise you would boot into SysVinit.

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