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#1277 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan 4 mate, time and date manager error » 2021-11-06 09:10:33

The org.freedesktop.timedate1 service is provided by systemd:

$ apt-file search org.freedesktop.timedate1                                                 
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service
systemd: /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.timedate1.service
systemd: /usr/share/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.timedate1.conf
systemd: /usr/share/man/man5/org.freedesktop.timedate1.5.gz
systemd: /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.timedate1.policy
$

@OP, you may be SOL with this one...

EDIT: here's the unit file:

[Unit]
Description=Time & Date Service
Documentation=man:systemd-timedated.service(8)
Documentation=man:localtime(5)
Documentation=man:org.freedesktop.timedate1(5)

[Service]
BusName=org.freedesktop.timedate1
CapabilityBoundingSet=CAP_SYS_TIME
DeviceAllow=char-rtc r
ExecStart=/lib/systemd/systemd-timedated
IPAddressDeny=any
LockPersonality=yes
MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes
NoNewPrivileges=yes
PrivateTmp=yes
ProtectProc=invisible
ProtectControlGroups=yes
ProtectHome=yes
ProtectHostname=yes
ProtectKernelLogs=yes
ProtectKernelModules=yes
ProtectKernelTunables=yes
ProtectSystem=strict
ReadWritePaths=/etc
RestrictAddressFamilies=AF_UNIX
RestrictNamespaces=yes
RestrictRealtime=yes
RestrictSUIDSGID=yes
SystemCallArchitectures=native
SystemCallErrorNumber=EPERM
SystemCallFilter=@system-service @clock
WatchdogSec=3min

It's a dbus service running a systemd binary with extensive sandboxing and hardening. I don't think this can be replicated with sysvinit. Hopefully I'm wrong.

EDIT: Alpine use openrc-settingsd to provide a dbus interface with OpenRC so you might be able to package that for Devuan and get it working with MATE. You'll have to switch to OpenRC as the service manager but it's better than sysvinit anyway (IMO).

#1278 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Beowulf on two laptops » 2021-11-06 09:08:20

Micronaut wrote:

If /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is not the right place to put config files, I'd like to know which of the numerous alternatives is the right place in Debian/Devuan?

I wrote:

see man xorg.conf for details

I'm not retyping it here for you tongue

EDIT: to give you a clue it's in the DESCRIPTION section.

#1279 Re: Installation » Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init! » 2021-11-06 09:04:03

Just load up the Devuan ISO image and use rescue mode to gain a shell in the installed system with a working internet connection so that you can install whatever you want.

IIRC though it's impossible to remove the init metapackge (of which systemd & sysvinit are dependencies) without being told how stupid an idea that is; APT requires you to confirm that you want to do something that will probably wreck your machines and you said "yes". Why?

#1280 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-05 18:31:40

Oops, sorry for the misinformation. I really should have checked that. Thanks for the correction Andy.

#1282 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] change from cdrom to USB flash drive in sources.list » 2021-11-05 05:38:08

Search the Debian forums, I answered this question there a while ago.

#1283 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] in-between releases » 2021-11-05 05:35:34

Your graphics card is AMD Picasso: https://linux-hardware.org/?id=pci%3A10 … -1002-15d8

It should work with beowulf if you install the firmware-amd-graphics (non-free) package and the kernel, both from backports. The kernel & firmware in chimaera would also work if you want to run that instead.

For the wireless card MX have a DKMS .deb package, see http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4611 but be sure to download the .deb from my link (which points to the repositories themselves) rather than the sharing link posted by the OP.

#1284 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] in-between releases » 2021-11-04 17:04:08

You can try the testing/unstable repositories but breakage is to be expected.

What graphics card does the laptop have?

lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d\|display'

^ That should show the identity of the card (the vendor ID and product ID) and also whether a kernel driver is assigned.

You should probably also read the "Firmware" page on the Debian wiki because some drivers won't work without proprietary firmware.

#1285 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII » 2021-11-04 17:00:02

felixed wrote:

Is there a way to display all system or Xorg actions?

Check the logs.

#1287 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-03 20:39:38

nobodyuknow wrote:

ungoogled-chromium is strange, given that it is downloaded from opensuse.org. I'm not sure I like that idea.

The openSUSE Build Service provides packages for many distributions, they are all built in fresh VMs for the target suite and so should be fully compatible. I've been using the service myself for several years to build custom Debian & Arch packages, it works very well.

#1288 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-03 18:02:52

nobodyuknow wrote:

Mirror mirror on the wall, of all the Debian-supplied browsers, which is the shittiest of them all?

Why, that would be the data-mining Chrome, of course! Google has been caught many times stealing data from K-12 students in violation of federal law and each time it promises to never do it again.

Debian does not supply Chrome, and they never will. But I do agree that the chomium package in the repositories is in a pretty poor state. Google don't provide an LTS version (unlike Mozilla) and Debian just can't keep up with the steady stream of vulnerabilities:

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tra … e/chromium

So the chromium package is outdated and riddled with potential security holes. Not good.

But for the "un-Googled" versions you list the situation is even worse because they're all based on outdated versions of Chrome. Privacy might be better than Chrome but security for those browsers is a complete joke (IMO).

Privacy on the interweb would be nice but it's almost impossible so I would always prioritise security because the browser is the single biggest vulnerability in the entire system for most desktop users.

#1289 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Beowulf on two laptops » 2021-11-03 17:55:06

xbacklight only works if you're using the Intel DDX driver but Devuan beowulf will default to the modesetting driver for Intel graphics cards. You can force the Intel driver to make xbacklight work but it's more buggy than modesetting.

I use a udev rule to change the brightness file to be owned by the video group and allow that group to alter the level:

# /etc/udev/rules.d/00-backlight.rules
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="intel_backlight", SUBSYSTEM=="backlight", RUN+="/bin/chgrp video /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness", RUN+="/bin/chmod g+w /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"

And then use keybinds to call scripts to alter the levels; this one is called dimmer (I have an AMD system, your backlight directory will be called intel_backlight, or so):

#!/bin/sh
file=/sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0/brightness
read -r level < $file
printf %s\\n $((level-5)) > $file

The brighter command is the same but with a plus instead of a minus. The value of the level step can be determined by checking the max_brightness file. I should probably make a generalised script to both raise and lower brightness in 1/10 increments for any system but I just can't be bothered.

EDIT:

Micronaut wrote:

so far I have tried two different config files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/

X does not look there, see man xorg.conf for details.

EDIT2: simplified udev rule.

#1290 Re: Installation » How to have updated firefox-esr in Chimaera? » 2021-11-02 20:10:09

golinux wrote:

No it is not.

Good call. Thanks for the correction smile

#1291 Re: Installation » How to have updated firefox-esr in Chimaera? » 2021-11-02 19:51:05

epp wrote:

Why not add the

snapd

package to the Devuan repository and let the users decide?

Because it's already available to Devuan users via amprolla.

And anyway snaps are not monitored by Canonical and have been known to serve malware:

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/ubuntu-snap-malware

#1292 Re: Freedom Hacks » [SOLVED] linphone alsa removing libpulse-mainloop-glib0 breaks mate » 2021-11-02 16:38:56

bai4Iej2need wrote:

a) what are the consequences of having these package in the system but not pulseaudio server ?

None whatsoever. If pulseaudio is not started then the libraries will not be used.

bai4Iej2need wrote:

b) How can I avoid that progs such as linphone , firefox, chromium search to attach to a pulseaudio subsystem and use only alsa?

The programs will use whichever sound system is available. I know Devuan's FF & Chromium works just fine without PA but I haven't tried linphone. The only potential issue would be for multiple audio sources playing at the same time, which can be tricky to manage with pure ALSA.

bai4Iej2need wrote:

d) is it a bug

No.

And in future please use code tags when posting terminal output and please prepend all commands with LC_ALL=C to make them output in English. Thanks.

#1293 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-02 16:29:16

I can't speak for the developers but I'm pretty sure they already have enough to do without packaging up some shitty browers that aren't good enough to make it into Debian's repositories.

#1295 Re: Installation » Devuan with AMD integrated graphics » 2021-11-01 17:25:58

rocked_socks wrote:

last time I attempted doing this, my graphics drivers weren't working

AMD graphics cards need firmware:

# apt install firmware-amd-graphics

#1296 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Display / monitor / mouse freeze after hours - Chimaera, not ASCII » 2021-11-01 16:20:17

felixed wrote:

But it would not explain why the freeze doesn't happen in ASCII but in it's upgrade to Beowulf - Chimaera.

Yes it would—the newer login session protocols are no longer supported by SLiM, which has been dead upstream since 2013...

EDIT: report this to Devuan as a bug, they need to drop SLiM.

#1297 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2021-10-31 08:16:04

Just bought Torchlight II on Steam, it works under Linux but only in X. I was a bit worried I'd wasted £4.49 when it wouldn't start in sway...

#1298 Re: Off-topic » NetworkManager wifi signal bars » 2021-10-31 08:14:01

Is NetworkManager running and connected before your user logs in? I don't use it myself so I'm not sure how that works.

hevidevi wrote:

i call a network status shell script from slstatus

Wait, what? Why would you do that? hmm

Please show how you have hooked the shell script into slstatus' components.

#1299 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] USB gamepad and boy it's a weird one! » 2021-10-31 08:10:28

Let's see what udev is doing with the device — open a terminal and run this command (as root):

udevadm monitor

Then plug in the controller and post any and all new output that appears in the terminal afterwards. Probably best to fullscreen the terminal, it might be a lot of information.

#1300 Re: Other Issues » X11 cyrillic font problem » 2021-10-30 09:23:53

Does removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf help? That file has been unnecessary for quite a while now.

Which font is used for the window title bar? Does it have Cyrillic support?

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