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Linux ate my RAM. lol!
But on the bright side I just ran some new wiring in my shop and installed a 2nd set of speakers, some old Boston components I built kickpanels for and were in the truck I just sold, currently jamming on some Lynyrd Skynyrd, woo-hoo!
Because my computer is like me, it's old, tired, and low-spec, lol.
And fyi, my current MATE desktop runs almost 700 mb of ram at idle, while my older Openbox Vuu-do system runs around 128 mb at idle and is waaaaaaaay faster at everything.
And now Chromium also requires pulse as does the MATE desktop environment.....arrrgh....not sure apulse will fix all that.
VLC still wants it, but in fact only needs libpulse0, and that just for communicating with other machines on the LAN that use pulse, which we don't. Wonder if it's something similar for FF, Chromium, and MATE?
Why do the people who code this stuff keep catering to that microsoft idiot and his vapidware?
This is what worked for me when I ran my pure ALSA system, .asoundrc:
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
}Hey guys, this isn't technically about Devuan so please forgive the off-topic post. Our Devuan installs are actually working perfectly.
We have fiber internet now, literally just a wall ethernet jack, no modem needed, but having a problem with switches/router.
We don't want or need wi-fi, we are connecting all directly with cat5e and cat6 cablesto the switch. Our service is 300 mbps, but old laptops only have a 10/100 NIC, but no biggie even 100 mbps would be awesome.
So I have an old generic 5 port switch that works so that's what I hooked up first (direct to wall jack). It works except for some reason it throttles everything down to 25-30 mbps, it's a managed switch but lost the password to login to it a long time ago (it's an almost 20 year old switch).
Tried an older Belkin wi-fi router that has 4 ethernet outputs, outputs all worked but router would not connect to internet, I have the password to it but no amount of tinkering would let it connect.
Bought a TPlink gigabit unmanaged 5 port switch, but it will only allow one output connection when it's plugged directly into wall, apparently something to do with IP addressing, TPlink says something to the effect that it's topology won't work being plugged in directly, it needs a router. (grrrrr, aggravating).
Here's the weird thing, occasionally I can get 90-95 mbps on one machine only, by plugging the gigabit switch into the wall, plugging it's output into the older 10/100 switches input and start by running both laptops off of the 10/100, then while running, unplug one laptop and plugging it into the gigabit switch. Doesn't work every time, and if I mess with any of it by swapping connections here and there it will stop working and i'll have to plug everything back in to the 10/100 switch. Very strange.
So I just wanted to know, does anybody know of a 5-port switch (or some kind of doodad) that CAN be plugged directly into wall jack and support the 4 outputs and give at least the 100mbps my machines can support?
Thanks for any help, been messing with this all day and have a heckuva headache now, I am lousy at this networking stuff.
^68 mb, is that correct?
Holy cow! That's amazing.
What I was thinking was that the system would be nimbler.
A.
In my experience a smaller system devoid almost entirely of unneeded cruft is FAR nimbler and faster, I have gone so far as to test this assumption thoroughly in the past on multiple machines and I assure you it is so, though the effect is far more noticeable on older machines with lower specs.
I used to know a guy who was way into Gentoo, and he always said I would never know what real speed was until I built a Gentoo system for a specific machine.
Too much work though, lol, for this lazy ol country boy. ![]()
BTW, thanks to everyone in this thread, this is a very interesting topic for me, have never compiled a custom kernel before but I think i'd like to give it a go in the future. I do love a small fast system. Have to spend some time today converting SVG icons into PNG's on some new programs i'm using, SVG's really bog down the main menu when you use icons in addition to the program name in a lower spec machine.
@Golinux: lol, i'm a guy, we don't read the directions. ![]()
I say this yet I wrote a whole book of user notes for vuu-do, ![]()
I'm guessing that was it Glenn, wasn't aware of the "su - " deal, I have always just used su and it has always worked before, got a message after I first tried to use dpkg complaining that what it needed was not in the path, so I fixed the path as I posted earlier, your way though is shorter and more elegant, think i'll add that too just to avoid any other future issues. Thanks!
EDIT: Edited my original post to mention the most pertinent Canon-specific packages I had to install. ![]()
So, working off an old 4-port switch that has a USB print server function, we have had a little Canon pixma ts-3122 that we got on a wally world black friday deal for like 15 bucks a few years ago, never used it until now.
I never use a printer, but the wife-unit wanted to be able to print out dress patterns, could have just hooked it up to her machine, but ya know, so much cooler to make it available on the lan, lol.
I won't go into a lot of detail unless somebody wants help, but a few things:
Loaded additional CUPS programs from the repo and the config printer packages, especially libcupsimage2 was vital.
This model was not on the big list of models already on the system after that, so had to go to Canon's website for downloads, fortunately Canon is with the program and offers source, debs, and rpms's and also for different architecure (64,32, ARMS etc.).
https://www.usa.canon.com/support/p/pixma-ts3122
Selected the version 5.50 deb and downed it (tar.gz), extracted and dpkg'ed the deb for 64 bit, note that I had to go into her machine and add a line to .bashrc like I did to mine to be able to manually use dpkg. Not sure why that isn't already in there by default, a proper PATH is pretty important.
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbinThen I had to extract the ppd file for the machine from the .deb I just installed as it needed to be input manually through the printer-config program. PIXMA TS-3100 series, (it had a LOT of different PPD's in that file, probably a 100 or more models).
Now all is good, can print from any machine in the house, kinda cool I guess for folks who use printers, funny thing is that it all works at all, both our laptops are 12-13 years old and were low-spec even back then, and the 4-port switch has got to be close to 20 years old.
Nice work Devuan!
EDIT: For Canon-specific printer a couple more packages I had to install just for reference:
cups-backend-bjnp
cnijfilter2 (this was the one that needed libcupsimage2, a dependency).
Well I looked at it again this morning after a couple cups of coffee, it was complaining that it couldn't find a couple of items in the PATH, so had to add a line in .bashrc
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbinThen dpkg worked fine, got Exaile installed, but wouldn't start from menu, tried in terminal and got this:
ERROR : Unhandled exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/exaile/xl/main.py", line 551, in __init__
self.mainloop_init()
File "/usr/lib/exaile/xl/main.py", line 866, in mainloop_init
import dbus
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'dbus'Which is perplexing, dbus is installed, maybe some python/dbus library i'm missing?
Hey y'all!
Got around to installing the new Devuan last night, first Devuan i've used since the first one (Jessie), yep i've been rolling with the first edition (as VUU-do) since 2017. I think that speaks volumes about the stability and longevity of this distro.
Excellent work guys, runs fine except for momentary weird video glitches during bootup and shutdown. This thing is HUGE, to me at least, first time in many years i've run a distro that big!
Installer is VERY complete, lol, a tad lengthy too. So let me here just re-iterate my undying respect and admiration for Refracta-installer which is what i'm used to using! Installed the MATE version on sda1 of my machine and grub to the MBR and it went very smoothly, recognized my other two Devuan partitions and existing swap just fine.
One issue: I was sorry to see my favorite music player Exaile wasn't in the repo, no biggie I went and downloaded a package, but when I tried to install it via dpkg, it refused to let me do so for some reason ( and I forgot to copy the reason it gave, dangit, it was late and I was wiped out). Hopefully I can figure that out, but would like to request it as a package for Devuan, great little player.
So thanks again to all the people who work hard on making my favorite distro, just moved and broke as hell, lol, but let me get another paycheck under my belt and i'll be sending a donation!
Cheers!
~texpat
Hi, welcome to Devuan!
Duuuuuuude! I got it but wasn't sure how to reply, it's great to hear from you too, sorry for my own incommunicado but I had my head buried in work for the last 4 years, it sucked but it was the only way to make sure that I would have free time in the future again. I thought about all of y'all a lot, every day I still use the OS I made that started with inspiration from you and Fsmithred, and the next one I make will still have those roots!
Wow! All last week I kept thinking about where and what happened to you, It is good to know all is well with you!
Welcome back!
cheers
zephyr
Man that is kinda strange, because at the same time roughly I was thinking about you, we were still at the old place and in the last week we were there I was trying hard to find an iso that was small enough for me to be able to download on the extremely low bandwidth of the public library, remembered yours and 1 gig seemed possible, but I tried and no joy, was going to take like 5 hours so had to blow it off.
Love my new place and our fast internets, gonna pickup a copy of Crowz today and check it out, seriously fun to see what everybody has been doing!
Gone but still screwing up my life/linux...
I don't watch videos online generally, so didn't know, but wife wanted to listen to some music on youtube yesterday, so, quick backstory:
Still using Vuu-do I finished in early 2018, works great and very stable, but of course outdated and no repo anymore. Browser started having issues so found and downed a Firefox 116 appimage, works fine EXCEPT, it apparently requires friggin Pulseaudio to deliver sound, which does not exist on my beautiful pure ALSA system.
Got a lil geek fury going on right now, arrrrrgh. Stupid Mozilla. Audio works fine in Chromium without crappy pottyhead yuckware.
greenjeans wrote:sgage wrote:Why did the chicken only cross halfway across the road?
She wanted to lay it on the line.'
Q: Why did the libertarian chicken cross the road?
A: None of your business, am I being detained?
MR. GREENJEANS!!!
Man...how I've missed you! I hope you're okay man!
Missed you too my friend! Doing great as a matter of fact, other than getting old as dust probably the best i've ever been! Good to be back and tinkering with Devuan again.
Why did the chicken only cross halfway across the road?
She wanted to lay it on the line.'
Q: Why did the libertarian chicken cross the road?
A: None of your business, am I being detained?
Thanks y'all! Will give it a shot tomorrow. Fsmithred I downed a copy of the newest Refracta also to see what you've been up to, gonna throw that on sda2 and nose around for a while before I start thinking about making me a new chop-job ![]()
Golinux, sure is good to be back doing something I really enjoy, missed our conversations sister ![]()
Ugh, so much to do though, last Vuu-do was my love-song to an older simpler time in Linux, GTK2, pure ALSA etc. Hopefully GTK3 has improved some since last I messed with it, lol.
Hi everyone!
Whew, been a long few years, life got in the way of my Linux, but happy to report that after 40+ years of renting, the wife and I finally bought a house!!! And after 10 years of using coffeeshop and library wi-fi ( one of the ways we saved money to buy a house), we have internets at home again, fast too, they actually have fiber in our tiny town so we got 300mbps which is kinda freaking me out as I have never used internet with that kinda speed! Missed all of y'all big-time but we had to work our butts off to make this happen.
So now I finally have time to do all the things I love, one of which is playing with Devuan, going to sit down soon and start building a new Vuu-do, but first i'm downloading the new Devuan to familiarize myself with all the new stuff.
So couple questions as I am rusty as heck amd my memory is starting to really suck.
1. Can I use the new Devuan with the MBR and GRUB I already have on my laptop or do I need to convert to GPT?
2. I have 3 partitions plus swap on the machine, was wanting to drop new Devuan on sda1 in place of old vuu-do build, can I do that without wiping the other partitions? Because I really need one of them, has all my files on it, I could backup on a stick and wipeout all if need be but rather not if possible.
3. I already have swap on it, so no need to re-format that right? Can I just bypass that on install?
Thanks!
~greenjeans
At idle when first booted, my Vuu-do runs right around 130mb or just a little less. Openbox/Tint2/Pcmanfm.
Currently reading the collected verse of Rudyard Kipling. Good stuff!
"...We know that the tail must wag the dog, as the horse is drawn by the cart;
But the Devil whoops, as he whooped of old: "It's clever, but is it Art?"...."
Dang, some of you guys really like it minimal!
My full-size Vuu-do iso is only around 560 mb, my style of minimalism is to get rid of mountains of useless cruft i'll never use or need. And believe me, there's a LOT! Too much to detail really.
Here's one I use, instead of loading a calendar program, if you just want a simple basic calendar for Tint2 , enter this in the slot for it in the Tint2 config gui:
yad --calendar --undecorated --button=gtk-close:0 --skip-taskbar --borders=5 --posx=-1 --posy=-1 --width=300 --on-topMan i'm glad I posted these things...we don't have internet at the house, using the library wi-fi now that they finally opened back up, so for months all i've had to work with are man pages, and nobody to ask to look at something for me, it's amazing how a fresh set of eyes can spot so quickly little mistakes that have been staring me in the face for days, lol.
Thanks Head_on_a_stick, all that was needed on that second script was to double-quote the $1 (plus the change to the .desktop) and the whole thing works perfectly now!
You guys rock!
Have you tried changing this line:
greenjeans wrote:convert $1 -strip -rotate "$rot" -set filename:copy '%t-rotated.%e' '%[filename:copy]'To this:
convert "$@" -strip -rotate "$rot" -set filename:copy '%t-rotated.%e' '%[filename:copy]'If the file name is separated by spaces then it will be interpreted as multiple arguments for the script and "$@" will pass them all through whereas $1 (or "$1", as it should be) will only pass the first part of the file name, which won't be recognised.
Wow, good eye, I never noticed that I hadn't quoted the $1 in the second script...huh, but still worked other than the spaces issue...I made these like 4 years ago and was in a hurry to get 'em working, I sell a lot of stuff online and the re-size option is a huge time-saver for me, and the rotater is nice for the occasional cell-phone pic that needs to be rotated.
Okay, trying stuff now, lol, BRB.