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#1101 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-10-22 14:09:49
Hello:
... Debian hybrid Systemd-SysV-OpenRC gives me the creeps.
I can't see a reason to move.
+10
Because there is none.
But most important: the OPs original question has_already_been_answered (very wisely) by one of our admins.
Trust is a fragile thing and not easy to repair.
It's about more than code ...
As far as I am concerned, golinux's answer was more than enough.
What else was needed?
I cannot believe time and resources are still being wasted on this thread, three pages long and started eight months ago.
A thread to justify/question Devuan's existence and what it stands for?
Absurd.
A.
#1102 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] how to research supported sound cards » 2021-10-21 20:01:25
Hello:
Is there a source for supported sound cards?
Of course.
Just have to look ... ;^D
https://wiki.debian.org/SoundCard
http://linux-sound.org/drivers.html
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_support
Best,
A.
#1103 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] File manager -> directory not valid » 2021-10-21 12:34:40
Hello:
... would guess this is related to whatever service pcmanfm uses to mount drives.
This is what I have installed:
groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep ud
--- snip ---
udev/oldstable,now 1:3.2.9+devuan4 amd64 [installed]
udiskie/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.7.7-1 all [installed]
udisks2/oldstable,now 2.8.1-4+devuan1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$ But none of these are listed as dependencies for PCManFM.
Now that I know what is going on, it is not much of a problem, but I do consider it to be a bug.
Thanks for your input.
A.
#1104 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] File manager -> directory not valid » 2021-10-21 11:41:17
Hello:
Any ideas?
Seems not.
It took me a good while as I was not able to find anything about this on the web (maybe was not looking properly?).
So I resorted to a trial and error method.
The answer:
If a device shown in Devices is not mounted, instead of getting the expected pop-up ie: Authentication required to mount XXXX nnnnn (/dev/sdxN), you get the error I made reference to in my OP.
This is something that had not occurred to me: the expected behaviour is that you get the pop-up asking for the credentials or at the very least a pop-up saying that the user is not allowed to mount the bloody device instead of one saying that the specified directory is not valid.
Why is this so?
No idea.
Is it a bug?
Probably.
Posted.
https://sourceforge.net/p/pcmanfm/bugs/1129/
Let's see what happens.
Best,
A.
#1105 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan 4 Chimaera / SLiM and WiCD » 2021-10-21 02:52:40
Hello:
... believe that relates to accessibility features ...
Ahh ...
That accessibility.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
So many things one takes for granted in life ... 8^|
Someone on the team is attempting to port it to python3.
Good to know.
The Devuan Package Information page shows this:
wicd
1.7.4+tb2-6+devuan2
http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main amd64
http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main i386
http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main arm64
http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-proposed-updates/main ppc64el
And the wicd home page says:
Awaking from deep sleep
Written for wicd by Andreas Messer on 2021-10-14The wicd project has been in state of deep sleep for a while now while Python, GTK continue to develop. I'm trying to get it back on track. This will need several major changes to its code base and will take some time.
The previous entry in the Announcements was from 2014-12-21, almost seven years ago.
Seems more like a coma than deep sleep.
I'm in no hurry to leave Beowulf, so I can wait.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Best,
A.
#1106 Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan 4 Chimaera / SLiM and WiCD » 2021-10-21 01:09:56
- Altoid
- Replies: 5
Hello:
I have just been reading Devuan 4 Chimaera Release Notes and saw two things that called my attention:
1.
Note that slim (the default Display Manager for xfce) is not
accessible. Be sure to install lightdm or gdm3 if you require an
accessible Display Manager.
Q: why is this so?
It works perfectly well in Beowulf, why not in Chimaera?
The Devuan Package Information page says it is available for chimera, daedalus and ceres:
slim
1.3.6-5.2+devuan1
http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64
http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64
2.
wicd
Wicd is no longer available in Devuan 4 Chimaera having been removed
from Debian Bullseye because of it's dependency on python2 which is now
obsolete.
I have always liked wicd, other conneciton managers I tried gave me endless grief.
I think I have other applications that depend on python2 ...
Thanks in advance,
A.
#1107 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] File manager -> directory not valid » 2021-10-20 12:40:58
Hello:
Bump ...
Posted to the PCManFM sub-forum at LXDE and the only answer received suggested I was probably posting to the wrong forum as Devuan Beowulf installs with Xfce and not lxde (!!!) and directed me back here. 8^D
https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f= … e85d2bfbd0
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
A.
#1108 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] File manager -> directory not valid » 2021-10-16 21:43:37
- Altoid
- Replies: 4
Hello:
On my Devuan Beowulf installation with a backported kernel ...
groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 (2021-02-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$... when I open the filemanager (PCManFM 1.3.1) and go to the Devices folder, I can see all my drives.
But when I click on any of them I get this:
Error
The specified directory 'computer:///
Hitachi%HTS543216L9SA00.drive' is not valid
The taskbar for this example reads: computer:/Hitachi HTS543216L9SA00: 160 GB Volume
I think there is something wrong here but I can't find what it could be.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
A.
#1109 Desktop and Multimedia » xorg-server Xorg 21.1.0 - second release candidate » 2021-10-14 15:16:25
- Altoid
- Replies: 0
Hello:
Received this update this morning, seems it is coming along fine.
----
This is the second release candidate of Xorg 21.1.0 release.
We have a number of fixes since the first RC.
Alex Richardson (1):
dix/privates.c: Avoid undefined behaviour after realloc()
Mario Kleiner (6):
xfree86: Avoid crash in xf86RandR12CrtcSetGamma() memcpy path.
xfree86: Let xf86RandR12CrtcComputeGamma() deal with non-power-of-2 sizes.
Revert "modesetting: Only use GAMMA_LUT if its size is 1024"
modesetting: Enable GAMMA_LUT for lut's with up to 4096 slots.
modesetting: Handle mixed VRR and non-VRR display setups better.
modesetting: Consider RandR primary output for selectioh of sync crtc.
Olivier Fourdan (1):
glamor: Fix leak in glamor_build_program()
Povilas Kanapickas (1):
xserver 21.1 RC 2
Ray Strode (1):
xkb: Drop check for XkbSetMapResizeTypes
nerdopolis (1):
xf86: Accept devices with the 'simpledrm' driver.
git tag: xorg-server-21.0.99.902
https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … 902.tar.gz
SHA256: 11d8f4bb405bfb0ebed23fb524ff355dcc9fa5013fcb32557eb733b09297ce51
---
Best,
A.
#1110 Re: Off-topic » It's a sad day . . . » 2021-10-09 12:41:55
Hello:
Not quite sure what that says about Devuan . . .
Indeed ...
I'd add that there are 10 pages of unanswered posts to which no one had anything to say.
The last two pages being from this year.
Best,
A.
#1111 Desktop and Multimedia » xorg-server Xorg 21.1.0 - first release candidate since 1.20.0 » 2021-09-22 00:52:46
- Altoid
- Replies: 4
Hello:
Just a heads-up.
Got this in my inbox this evening from xorg-announce@lists.x.org:
This is the first release candidate of Xorg 21.1.0 release.
Notable changes since 1.20 include:- The meson support is now fully mature. While autotools support will still be
kept for this release series, it will be dropped afterwards.- Glamor support for Xvfb.
- Variable refresh rate support in the modesetting driver.
- XInput 2.4 support which adds touchpad gestures.
- DMX DDX has been removed.
- X server now correctly reports display DPI in more cases which may affect
rendering of client applications on hi-DPI screens.A large number of small features and various bug fixes.
Note that since 21.1 series XWayland is released separately and thus this
release does not include it.I expect to push subsequent release candidates roughly every two weeks.
The following is a full changelog since xserver 1.20.0. ...
--- snip ---
The changelog follows, long-ish as would be expected from such an upgrade. ie: 1.20.0 -> 21.1.0
The X.org site most surely has the details if anyone is interested in the details.
Seems that TEM was quite right. 8^D
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26536#p26536
It's FUD from Microsoft related company. X.org is still alive.
X.org is indeed still alive.
Best,
A.
#1112 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blanking screen » 2021-09-15 12:40:10
Hello:
Altoid wrote:ie: Does it write to the conf file?
No it doesn't. It bypasses xorg.conf completely.
I found this bit at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Displa … _Signaling
Note:
XScreenSaver and xfce4-power-manager use their own DPMS settings and override xset configuration.
See XScreenSaver#DPMS https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XScree … g_settings
and
Xfce#Display blanking https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xfce#Display_blanking
To note for anyone using Xfce:
XScreenSaver
If xscreensaver is installed and runs alongside Xfce Power Manager, it may not be clear which application is in control of blanking and DPMS as both are competing for control of the same settings. Therefore, in a situation where it is important that the monitor not be blanked (when watching a video for instance), it is advisable to disable blanking and DPMS through both applications. To know more about XScreenSaver options, see XScreenSaver#DPMS and blanking settings.
Hmm ...
... competing for control of the same settings.
A classic case of right hand not knowing what left one does or too many fingers in the pie.
Maybe a bit of both, you'd think the chaps at Xfce would be a bit more careful.
As my WS is not dependent on battery power, I long ago decided to get rid of xfce4-power-manager and all associated files.
Cheers,
A.
#1113 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blanking screen » 2021-09-14 22:44:56
Hello:
... bypasses xorg.conf completely.
Interesting ...
Thanks.
I'll give it a read.
... need to figure out which system boot script would be the best ...
I guess (?) you could write up a script, save it to /usr/local/bin/ and put it in your /etc/rc.local so it will run.
eg: this is the stuff I have in mine, with comments.
groucho@devuan:~$ cat /etc/rc.local
#!/bin/sh -e
#
# rc.local
#
# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
# Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other
# value on error.
#
# In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
# bits.
#
# By default this script does nothing.
#
# to set all /proc/acpi/wakeup entries to 'disabled'
# no wakeup from S4 for anything
# does not survire reboot that's why it is here
# see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=29113#p29113
#
/usr/local/bin/acpi_wakeups.sh
#
# to disable wol via ethtool at boot
# does not survire reboot that's why it is here
#
# /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d
#
# 20210602 - changed for script in /usr/local/bin
# see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4349
#
# /usr/local/bin/no_wol.sh
#
# e1000e module is now patched to disable WoL
# see /usr/src/e1000e-patch 1001
groucho@devuan:~$ May take a while I'm afraid ...
Nah!
Try the rc thing, should work.
The trick is to write the script with the correct syntax. 8^|
Best,
CIV
#1114 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blanking screen » 2021-09-14 20:33:06
Hello:
... forgotten about DPMS and a quick search on the web gave me the command
xset dpms 0 0 0 && xset s noblank && xset s off #as root!
I wonder how that command relates to the settings in xorg.conf.
ie: Does it write to the conf file?
Could you please post the link where you got the information?
TIA.
Best,
A.
#1115 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blanking screen » 2021-09-14 11:56:56
Hello:
Plain Beowulf+Mate install.
I run Beowulf on a backported kernel, Xfce and a three monitor setup:
Linux devuan 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 (2021-02-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
It uses two Nvidia FX 580 (G96GL) cards and Nvidia proprietary legacy drivers.
I set up my xorg.conf file with DPMS set to disabled:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "ScreenLeft" <- same for "ScreenCenter and "ScreenRight"
Device "DeviceLeft"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "DPMS" "False"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
EndSection
This is clearly reflected in /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
groucho@devuan:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i dpms
[ 33.335] (**) Extension "DPMS" is disabled
groucho@devuan:~$ In addition to all this, if I run Applications -> Settings -> Screensaver (XscreenSaver 5.42) I get a pop-up that says
Warning:
The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.0".
Launch it now?
My three monitors are 2x SyncMaster 940n + a Dell P1914S in the centre.
One would think that none of them would blank at all, no?
Well, one of the SyncMaster 940n units ("ScreenLeft" in xorg.conf) turns off after a while.
No idea why and does not really matter but ....
Best,
A.
#1116 Re: Other Issues » recommend a good email prgram » 2021-09-09 11:28:33
Hello:
... what is everyone using as their email program?
Everyone?
Nope, probably just me. 8^)
In my previous life as a MS OS user (DOS5.5 / W3.11 -> XPSP3), after a short run with the free version of Eudora, I switched to Pegasus Mail in early 1996.
Many years later, being able to use Pegasus Mail under Linux (via Wine) was one of the two deal-breaking programmes that made it possible to make a seamless switch to Linux and leave the MS OS environment for good, the other was Judd Montgomery's JPilot.
Once comfortably settled within Linux, I tried out most if not all the available options but none were good enough, Claws-Mail coming close.
But it simply did not have the same functionality I have come to appreciate in David Harris' free albeit not open source programme.
This year marks the 25th. I have been using Pegasus Mail and can only say it is quite solid and reliable, has never let me down.
Just my $0.02.
Best,
A.
#1117 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Wicd in Chimaera (It's not, but...) » 2021-08-23 22:06:49
Hello:
PLEASE keep this thread focused on the possibility of running wicd in Chimaera.
+1
Thank you.
A.
#1118 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how do I set the default directory to / when I use su? » 2021-07-31 13:57:54
Hello:
Yes, I know ...
But old habits die hard, very. 8^/
But thanks for the heads up.
Eventually, I guess.
Best,
A.
BTW:
I see a chap by the name of Andy Tanenbaum has an entry there.
I have not ever been around Unix and have only 10 years or so in Linux.
But reading the page made me wonder: Is this Tanenbaum (genetically or otherwise) related to systemd's Poettering?
Just curious ...
A.
#1119 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how do I set the default directory to / when I use su? » 2021-07-30 15:49:18
Hello:
No, that's what I have to do.
I see.
So ...
You want to do su - and be sent directly to / without the cd / bit.
Sorry, it seems that I've reached my pay grade limit. 8^|
... thank you for trying ...
You're welcome.
Best,
A.
#1120 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how do I set the default directory to / when I use su? » 2021-07-30 13:28:25
Hello:
glenn@GamesBox ~ $ cat /etc/default/su ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes glenn@GamesBox ~ $
Right ...
Now, open the terminal and do ...
~ $ su -That should get you to /root.
And from there you can cd / to /.
Is that what you meant to do?
Best,
A.
#1121 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how do I set the default directory to / when I use su? » 2021-07-30 10:24:45
Hello:
Thank you ...
You're welcome.
this is what I have...
glenn@GamesBox ~ $ su Password: root@GamesBox:/home/glenn#
Open a terminal and do ...
~ $ cat /etc/default/suPlease post the output.
Best,
A.
#1122 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how do I set the default directory to / when I use su? » 2021-07-30 01:48:53
Hello:
How do I configure su to always start at / ?
See https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf … _notes.txt
Best,
A.
#1123 Re: News & Announcements » X.Org ------> ex-org? » 2021-07-29 20:26:32
Hello:
... FUD from Microsoft related company.
X.org is still alive.
Indeed ... 8^D
Got this a while ago from xorg-announce@lists.x.org:
----
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] xorg-server 1.20.13
Matt Turner (1):
xserver 1.20.13
Łukasz Spintzyk (2):
present: fallback get_crtc to return crtc belonging to screen with present extension
modesetting: unflip not possible when glamor is not set
git tag: xorg-server-1.20.13
https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … .13.tar.gz
https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … .13.tar.xz
----
Best,
A.
#1124 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Browsers and the demise of Adobe Flash Player » 2021-07-25 14:53:55
Hello:
... filed a question here for the tabs drop down issue: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1344723
Maybe it is now a moot point.
Seeing that Pale Moon did not suffer from this and other innovations, I asked at the Pale Moon forum.
Pale Moon is a hard fork of Firefox. There isn't any new mozilla code that will find its way into PM. It's been this way for quite a while now.
I did not know that.
It seems a good reason to stay with Pale Moon, LibreWolf does not follow the same path.
As always, YMMV.
Best,
A.
#1125 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Browsers and the demise of Adobe Flash Player » 2021-07-23 13:25:05
Hello:
No flash, all the websites linked work. about:config is avalible ...
Sorry ...
When I made reference to about:config it was not because it was not available, it is.
I meant to say that I did not find anything in about:config which would get the drop down menus to work as they did before.
Or get the tabs below the toolbar as they were before, the option I found on the web is no longer available / no longer works.
ie: browser.tabs.onTop -> boolean: false
---> rant
No idea what these chaps at Firefox were thinking when they made these changes, but they lost me after many (many) years.
And from what I have read on-line, it seems there are a great many annoyed users like me.
<--- /rant
I filed a question here for the tabs drop down issue: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1344723
Let's see what I get from that.
I tried librewolf which worked fine, but it has the same UI issues (drop down to the wrong side and tabs on top) which do not seem to be something about:config can solve. I will keep it installed as a back up option just in case.
From what I was seeing, there was something .js related that got screwed up in Pale Moon and not problem with Flash.
After hours searching for a clue/lead to fix it, I decided to do something I loathe: rip out everything and start over.
ie: à la MS. 8^|
I backed up my /home/user/palemoon folder and my bookmarks to an external drive.
Then carefully weeded out any and all Pale Moon related files, rebooted and checked again to make sure absolutely everything was gone.
I then copied the palemoon folder back in place.
Result?
It now works as it was working before all this went down.
Something got very seriously screwed up in the Pale Moon installation.
Maybe a configuration file?
No idea which or where but it seems it was not in the /home/user/palemoon folder.
I think it could have been some script related add-on I tried which, when uninstalled, did not leave things as it had found them.
Hence the .js issues.
I any case, problem solved.
Thanks to all who pitched in.
Best,
A.
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