You are not logged in.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#1051 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-09 21:42:55
zapper wrote:would it be faster than the thinkpad x200?
I really have no idea, sorry. Try searching for processor benchmarks.
Heh, I have actually done so, but to no avail... 
Although, I looked on reddit and some people seem to say it will be as fast as a raspberry pi 3 B+
I am curious what that would look like. for stuff like, palemoon, firefox, libreoffice, focuswriter, etc...
Actually I should've said faster... but yeah. still i wonder what that places the speed level on compared to an x200, i would guess its faster, but the question is by how much.
#1052 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Post Your Sources List » 2020-09-09 05:17:39
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera main
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-security main
# beowulf-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-updates main
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera-updates main
deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/ bullseye main
#
deb https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/linux-libre/freesh/ freesh main
These are my sources
However I think the testing version must not have a security repo, because chimaera-security always gives errors.
aka 404 not found.
#1053 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-09 05:16:03
zapper wrote:but wouldn't it be as fast a thinkpad x230?
I doubt it, those A53 cores aren't very fast at all and the Coretex-M4F is only 32-bit. It would be much better if they used a Snapdragon 8cx but I suppose that would hit their profit margin too much.
But at least it uses an open-source compatible graphics chip, unlike the PineBook Pro and it's shitty Mali GPU.
Tell me, would it be faster than the thinkpad x200? and if so, by how much?
just wondering, as i want a more secure laptop then my libreboot x200 for my lightweight tasks.
#1054 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-08 06:25:50
Hmm... so its not as fast as a thinkpad x230? can anyone who uses a similiar setup aka, with a similiar processor, give any confirmation?
I am sure its faster than my libreboot x200 though. IF nothing else... and that would be good enough for me probably. Libre wifi card, nvme ssd,
I guess it really depends on your use case, etc...
It might be fast enough or it might not, I have no idea at the moment. But I am also interested in this:
balthazar.space
The laptop on that webpage. This is the news so far:
#1055 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Post Your Sources List » 2020-09-08 06:17:26
My thinkpad x230 is on chimaera devuan due to some issues I had with changing from openrc to runit and also like the poster, I also have the same wine repo,
But I also have jxself.org's linux-libre repo. I will post the exacts later, I am not using that laptop right now 
This is being typed from my x200 thinkpad. The one with Hyperbola.
#1056 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-03 16:28:41
That is an interesting device but it's over-priced and under-powered (IMO). And they claim it runs Debian 11, which doesn't exist (yet). If they actually mean Debian bullseye then Devuan chimaera should also work on it.
Overpriced yes, but wouldn't it be as fast a thinkpad x230? They probably meant thought that debian 11 would be out by now. 
Yeah it should
I say that about its speed because arm is only like 2-5 years behind in speed.
But there is one good thing, the wifi card is libre and really the only minor problem is that non-arm boot blob, which appears to not have any remote issues according to the developer of mnt reform.
Also forgot to mention, its modular and likely to be upgraded over time. 
#1057 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2020-09-03 16:26:22
zapper wrote:HevyDevy wrote:I did a few months ago, the non free aspect of it killed my hopes of a working wifi connection though, no free drivers so i was stuck tethered to the phone for network. Good distro though and you can make it really lightweight and resource friendly. Iceweasel was good and worked ok, addons are not very straight forward and you cant just add them from firefox if memory serves me correct.
It depends, I have done exactly that with xul firefox addons to iceweasel-uxp. Webextension ones, no way in hell though.
One laptop i have devuan on for gaming, but otherwise they will be running hyperbola from now on.
So you think the mozilla addons are not really a safe option? Like say ublock origin for firefox-esr ?
hyperbola have an interesting future ahead, im looking forward to seeing what they come up with in regards to porting openbsd.
Yeah, Hyperbola does have an interesting future, they plan to support arm based devices and x86 based ones, meaning 32 bit and 64 bit.
As for mozilla, I just feel like they have forgotten what matters to users. They keep trying to add unneeded anti features and are allowing google to taint them further and further.
Palemoon is what I use on devuan btw...
2 Laptops = Hyperbola
1 = Devuan (gaming one) but even that one has a linux-libre-4.19 kernel.
Although gnu and linux are both starting to concern me, so its good Hyperbola is moving forward with their goals. Oh and btw, if anyone wants to support the old noscript, https://github.com/hackademix/noscript-classic
for people who use the xul web browsers aka...
#1058 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-03 16:19:53
You say that "Debian apparently will support this soon." Do you mean instead, that the platform will support running Debian on it? I expect that if it runs Debian, then it should be possible to get Devuan on it.
Yeah thats what I meant. Indeed, i hope your right, I will say, if HyperbolaBSD gets a beta out, I might use that... but as for early on, meaning till 2022 or something if I get it, most likely devuan.
I mention HyperbolaBSD/Hyperbola here only for one reason, while I wait for them to support the device or indeed have an os, I will likely be using devuan on that laptop if I order one.
#1059 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2020-09-02 22:45:39
randomer wrote:Has anyone tried Hyperbola and their fork of Basilisk, Iceweasel-UXP? https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id … redirect=1
I did a few months ago, the non free aspect of it killed my hopes of a working wifi connection though, no free drivers so i was stuck tethered to the phone for network. Good distro though and you can make it really lightweight and resource friendly. Iceweasel was good and worked ok, addons are not very straight forward and you cant just add them from firefox if memory serves me correct.
It depends, I have done exactly that with xul firefox addons to iceweasel-uxp. Webextension ones, no way in hell though.
One laptop i have devuan on for gaming, but otherwise they will be running hyperbola from now on.
#1060 ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-02 22:42:59
- zapper
- Replies: 37
https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform
Debian apparently will support this soon, will devuan do the same?
I just wondered...
#1061 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-29 03:38:18
At some point, can you add the package LibreSSL to Devuan? That would be more secure and lighter on resources then OpenSSL.
#1062 Re: Off-topic » I am new to Linux however i dislike systemd » 2018-11-18 02:09:08
I too was a gamer before using gnu/linux much like yourself Cynicfm. But I began to abandon it around windows 8.1.
For reasons of privacy/security. I wasn't knowing prior to that how bad windows was for security/privacy.
Personally though, as bad as systemd is, gnu/linux distros even debian is a wave of light compared to winblows 10 or winblows anything really... Windows is more like winbugs or winblows because of how much it sucks.
Not that you would like the distro I currently use, even though it doesn't use systemd and is free software, but Hyperbola is free software and doesn't use systemd at all.
Why wouldn't you like it you may wonder... Because it is a bit of a pain to install with encryption unless you are using libreboot devices with FDE. Also it is based off of archlinux and has a text mode install!
For me at first it was hard if not impossible, but since 0.2.2 or 0.2.3 releases and beyond, it has been easy. Because I now understand what I am doing. They added the guide to full disk encryption for libreboot about then.
You need a libreboot device though for this method of encryption, unless you are a really big expert on partitioning. xD
Devuan + jxself.org's linux-libre-lts is the next best option personally. But devuan does have that damn pocket s*** enabled in firefox just like debian.
I wish it was disabled by default. Who even uses that? ;p
Though to be honest, with Hyperbola they also ditch webext firefox which I also like, because webext is google garbage. Palemoon and Basilisk use XUL still, as does waterfox. But Basilisk has support for pre version 57 webext.
Noscript, Ublock origin, greasemonkey, privacy settings and random agent user spoof are my favorite addons for it. Most are being maintained currently of those five for forks, except the last two.
Anywho that's just a bit of info about me, as for minifree.org and their libreboot laptops, I highly recommend you buy them. They require no blobs, and the only thing that is questionable is the EC FIRMWARE separate from Libreboot which as long as you buy from them, won't be updated. but if you buy any of their devices, use transferwise to pay for the bill if you so desire to buy those laptops. Otherwise, it could be very expensive given how banks operate.
I personally have an x200. It is nice and durable to the point where I stepped on part of it once, and even dropped it once and it was fine. (NOT ON PURPOSE OF COURSE!) But yeah, you may have different results but long story short, you don't need any proprietary firmware or anything really questionable to run devuan or hyperbola or any free software distro on those computers.
Long rant I know, but yeah, just a few thoughts of mine. As for why I ditched Fedora, debian and trisquel which were my first distros after winbugs 8.1, Simply put to make it simple, I heard unsettling things about systemd and decided it was too questionable to trust. And the devs also were said to be very hostile, I decided that made it even more suspicious.
Anyways, enjoy devuan!
ps, linux-libre-lts is found here: https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
Oh, last thing if you get any computer whether from minifree.org or anywhere else, use Solid state drives, they the best for speed, battery saving and in general.
#1063 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Hyperbola Thread » 2018-06-11 20:45:35
Hyperbola has requested to be acknowledged on our init freedom page and that is being discussed. dxrobertson is correct that it is arch-based and only uses parts of devuan so not really a devuan derivative. More of a chimera.
I use Hyperbola now, I will tell you one thing though, it is extremely stable. Just don't remove essential or very much needed packages.
But yeah, this distro stopped me from distro hopping.
a bit of a warning, no graphical installer yet though. And I am not sure how to make /home and root be encrypted without everything else including boot.
I followed the libreboot guide for doing FDE but other than that I have zero clue how to do partitioning. ;/
Also, you need two laptops to do this to install on one. One to install on, one to read the guides. unless you have a printer...
Good thing is though, it has a hardened web browser, hardened email client and network-manager.
and updating usually is lightning fast even with only 300 or less mpbs per second.
But do not expect to install .deb files. I don't think it has a dpkg on it. and non-free software probably won't work unless it is through emulators like dosbox.
That's all I know of now. Just letting you know. AUR may work btw, but I really don't recommend it.
Again, it stopped my distro hopping.
#1064 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2017-12-05 01:27:50
@zapper . . . https://en.liberapay.com/Liberapay/
Sorry if I am replying late, but yes.
#1065 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2017-12-05 01:26:34
The delay in GNUinos made me opt for Hyperbola GNU / Linux-Libre
Guess who also did the same thing,
I too have opted for hyperbola for many, many reasons.
Freedom
Security
Privacy
Free Software
Those reasons...
and also quicker updates to packages. And really... I don't need any package manager like octopi or synaptic.
#1066 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2017-09-18 17:30:24
Poppageek wrote:Please consider setting up a https://www.patreon.com account so we can support Devuan on a monthly basis. Ubuntu Mate has this and seem to do rather well with it. I support a content producer via Patreon and have found it a great way to support those I appreciate.
Thank you.
Why should we use a third-party service that takes a cut of the donations? The systems we have in place should allow for recurring support.
I think this website might interest you in terms of a third party donations...
apparently, they might not have that issue... not positive... but look into it.
#1067 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2017-09-18 17:27:32
I wonder when amd64 beta version of ascii will be out for GNUINOS...
or for that matter a lot of things...
#1068 Re: Installation » Adding packages require CD-ROM? » 2017-09-13 01:21:51
garyz.dev1 wrote:My experience is like @nobodyuknow - the cd rom stays enabled - and there are two lines
one is commented out and the other right below it.
I just took it as part of the cd installInteresting that no one has stumbled on that before . . . at least that I can remember.
garyz.dev1 wrote:[that being said - I usually choose not network install as I feel the CD loads the basic system
faster than downloading.
' then I comment the "cdrom" source and get the rest via the standard locationsThat is a good plan when using the DVD install. Not such a good idea when using the CD install as there are not enough packages on the CD to create a fully functional system.
I noticed long ago, on trisquel, debian and devuan. I just never told anyone because I thought people knew already.
#1069 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-09-06 00:26:59
zapper wrote:Why would anyone even want jessie now that debian 9 has been released?
Because it's boringly stable and trouble-free. I will likely run it till 2020 eol.
It does have older packages, but if you like it that way then you should get the updates.
zapper wrote:We need to work on jessie too granted, but ascii is more important in my opinion.
No new work is being done on jessie except for a few lingering pkgs in jessie-proposed. All attention is now focused on ascii. It's just that there hasn't been much focusing lately with August vacations etc. I keep hoping for some action . . .
I am sure things will pick up eventually.
#1070 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-09-06 00:24:37
zapper wrote:Why would anyone even want jessie now that debian 9 has been released?
Couldn't tell ya, I don't use Debian and really wasn't waiting for them to release 9 to start doing so, you'll forgive me if I don't get that excited or ever even really pay attention to what Debian is doing and don't care.
zapper wrote:We need to work on jessie too granted, but ascii is more important in my opinion.
Why?
Jessie is stable and works, it does every conceivable task I could ask a computer to do and does it well. By FAR the lion's share of users want exactly that, 99.9% of them couldn't even tell you what a kernel is, much less which one they are using.
The only people clamoring for the latest bleeding edge distro-breaking whizzbangs, are a very few users that need some newer firmware, and a bunch of hardcore linux geeks that must have the latest everything for reasons even they can't fully explain or understand.
Given those facts, it's more than a little ridiculous to try and lobby people like the VUA's (who are trying to make a nice stable operating system for folks to use), to give that up and focus solely on trying to break as many computers as possible with buggy untested unstable software.
Plenty of work to be done on the stable branch, it's just a stable canvas to work on, people haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what it can do, or how to put it together in new and better ways.
And not for nothing but there are plenty of things to fix left by buggy gnome and redbutt annoyance-ware, and if we keep avoiding those issues they will never get fixed, there are bugs in Mate that have been there for over 5 years and before that in gnome2 and are STILL broken, while Mate actually brags (..shudder..) about switching to GTK3.....
Not gonna push the VUA's to do things any faster by making posts demanding they hurry up or by belittling the work they've already done, just gonna piss 'em off eventually and delay things even more.. it's childish and it needs to stop.
People have no idea of the true mountainous amount of work that has to be done to put out a distro like Devuan, no idea at all.
Zapper, sorry, not all this is directed at you, just needed saying and you caught the short straw this time.
Don't worry about it, I don't judge you for this. it must be kind of frustrating not having any updates for a while.
#1071 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-09-05 21:51:51
he did say "busybox-syslogd and syslog-ng"
I can't believe this is out for so long and nobody caught it. Ceres has a single repository, ascii has exactly the same repositories as jessie (security, update, etc). Just switch all your jessie lines into ascii. If you had looked at the proper web page it lists exactly the proper repositories. This is for future reference as too much time has gone by.
I have in a way parked all my devuan installations waiting for developers to deal with existing issues.
It appears that the summer siesta hasn't ended yet or things haven't gotten in a rolling mode again.
It appears as a strange decision to release Devuan 1 and then go on vacation, it just makes the project
look less professional, or serious. Maybe they should have waited for September.In any case, those more serious about bug fixing seem to have concentrated on the list, after all they
are mostly debian escapees and they will not adopt to anything better. The logs of the list are next
to impossible to search and locate meaningful information. It has been that way on debian since the
stone age and remains the same in devuan.Personally if it wasn't for the good work from refracta/fsmithred I would have lost all interest in this system.
Why would anyone even want jessie now that debian 9 has been released?
We need to work on jessie too granted, but ascii is more important in my opinion.
I think at some point devuan should get its repos the same way debian does, by itself. Though that may not happen for a long while I am betting. I am just saying, forking debian is a good temporary solution, but it should become independent at some point. long term imo.
PS, I use ceres now, and I am enjoying it thoroughly. Just a thunderbird/wicd-gtk and bleachbit error and enigmail error... otherwise it has been fine and exceptionally good. Good job on ceres and ascii devs! now I think you also need to work on jessie also. I hope you do this soon... either way though, I will not give up on devuan for a long time if ever.
#1072 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-09-05 01:12:21
Oh! I didn't know you could run without a syslogger. If you want one, there are two other choices that do work in ascii. busybox-syslogd and syslog-ng. (You don't need it often, but when you do, it's pretty important.)
There are better syslogs you can use including a busybox version of syslog.
#1073 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken » 2017-09-05 01:09:07
The Strange thing is, I have only had issues with thunderbird and enigmail on devuan unstable and the solution was found thankfully.
I don't know how I did it or if someone else submitted a patch but it is fixed.
Oh and bleachbit/wicd-gtk also. But yeah minor issues easily fixable. GO DEVUAN! hehe.
#1074 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » linux-libre kernel 4.1.43 upgrade » 2017-09-05 01:07:15
Try linux-libre or linux-libre-lts from this website + instructions... jxself.org/linux-libre
Also follow his instructions especially if you use libreboot!
Which I do.
#1075 Re: Devuan » Question/Suggestion:What about being an entirely free GNU/Linux disto? » 2017-09-05 01:03:58
If you don't want contrib and non-free enabled during the installation, then choose expert install, and it will ask. If you don't know enough to use expert install, your wireless firmware will be installed automatically, and you will be glad you have it. Especially if you can't do a wired connection.
It is somewhat difficult to access expert install on a libreboot device. So yeah... I wish I knew how to do that.
On Libreboot x200 you do not need any non-free firmware or anything at all.
Well maybe the ec firmware, at least until its unlocked anyways... hehe.
Board footer
