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I do hope X11 will be maintained and kept alive somewhere.
As far as I can recall, xenocara is a version of 'X' built & maintained in/by the OpenBSD maintainers, so there is the hope that some distros will package it for use in Linux.
(I had forgotten about xenocara because I have been installing NetBSD on some of my spare computers lately.)
Hadn't noticed, & don't miss it - happy enough to just quote the salient points myself in a reply....
Still, I imagine this is a good place to get people talking about or thinking about such a goal, since I gather that a lot of people here are skeptical of the GNOME project, Freedesktop.org, and the Debian/Fedora direction and just aren't as much about the whole "tech go forward, deal with it" mentality that major distros have these days.
As I've mentioned before, I'm looking seriously at BSD, (NetBSD & OpenBSD in particular), I'm not one for 'everything bar the kitchen sink' type distros, & the smaller distros will struggle to keep all these 'improvements' out....
Those quoted WMs are a bit basic, I would think more on the lines of fluxbox, jwm, icewm, or similar.....enough functionality, without a lot of dependancies.
Not a fan of messing with things that work - systemd, pulseaudio, & now wayland just weren't needed, let alone having them 'forced' on us!
Totally agree, happy new year & many thanks for all your hard work on our behalf, devs & mods, your work is really appreciated.
Maybe we will have to give up on Debian, totally.... & maybe even Linux itself!
I, personally, am investigating using BSD instead of Linux, for all of my computing needs - even looking at Haiku as a desktop system.
Commercial interests are ruining Linux to my mind..... it just isn't what it used to be.
I have really appreciated the effort put in by the Devuan devs, but if it gets to be too great a task in the future, I'll certainly understand......
These days, when adding drives to a system, (in /etc/fstab), it is best to use their UUID, as drives get their /dev/sd(?) as they are found on the system, not by what disk they actually are.
Before manually mounting a disk, plug it in, then run
sudo dmesg | tail
to find out what the system has designated it as, then you mount it to a directory, often just use /mnt.
Camtaf wrote:
I see no reason for a
. :-(
Because there are 32bit systems still available.....so those old computers are still usable/useful, even if a bit slow....not everyone expects instant website access.
32bit systems are still supported by the BSDs & Haiku, so they don't need to be thrown out just yet......
Whilst I had been a long time Debian user, (since 1999), I went over to Devuan, to get away from systemd & the like, & will, (if I need to), go over to BSD full time, if it (systemd) becomes the 'Linux way'.
I found it easy to use, though I did run it as the root user from the command line, it then opens up into a graphical installer, which I think is pretty straight forward to use.
calamares
Welcome aboard.
Devuan is what Debian was - giving back freedom to the user.
Alternative to middle wheel pasting is both left & right buttons together....
It's OK....I've been practicing with the BSDs for this very scenario......
If 'Linux' does disappear down this route, at least I'm ready....
Try....
free -m;df -h;ls
That should give you some info output....
Welcome aboard.......Devuan is Debian without systemd.
@ zephyr
My apologies, I thought that I remembered you & Miyo discussing how to do some things on here...
I could never get on with Chrome/Chromium, so have always used Firefox, occasionally Dillo, & have tried to use text browsers too, the internet has become an advertising space for corporations, far removed from its original purpose...
I stopped using Youtube when forced to watch adverts, & only returned to it when we could block them - so if everyone did so, they'd soon lose all their revenues..
@ Ron
Check out Crowz, (partially created with help from MIYO), it's a neat little system.
I just wish someone/distros would revive TinyX.......
Grub, by default, no longer looks for other operating systems....
Welcome aboard.
Weak processor + minimal DE
Wyse Dx0Q 1.5GHz Quad Core AMD GX-415GA Radeon HD8330E graphics
Slow, but I still use XFCE & FF on it....
If you want it to look like Mint, just use Mint.....
Devuan has its own look & feel....
But, you can modify it if you want, that's what Linux is all about.
3.2GB installed Daedalus/XFCE.
It's not a disk hog like MSWindows.....