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#76 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » trying to keep my 100yr-old father computing for another year » 2023-12-31 23:49:48

stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn wrote:

is it possible that libgtk3-nocsd0 would help?

Maybe. Here's some relevant info that may be helpful:

How do I disable client side decoration globally in GNOME?
https://askubuntu.com/questions/961161/ … y-in-gnome

gtk3-nocsd - transparently disable Gtk+3 client side decorations (CSD)
https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/no … csd.1.html

This change to Evolution was also discussed in this article:

Evolution Email Client Now Uses a Headerbar/CSD
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/09/evo … header-bar

The first comment shown in the comments section offers a potential solution.

EDIT:

If gsettings is not installed, install libglib2.0-bin.

For example:

# aptitude install libglib2.0-bin

#78 Re: Other Issues » Security updates for forked packages? (e.g. xorg-server) » 2023-12-24 05:24:30

You are correct. This is what my Daedalus-based Refracta system is showing:

$ aptitude show xserver-xorg-core
Package: xserver-xorg-core               
Version: 2:21.1.7-3+deb12u2devuan1
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Maintainer: Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 3,907 k
Depends: xserver-common (>= 2:21.1.7-3+deb12u2devuan1), keyboard-configuration, udev (>= 149), libegl1, libaudit1 (>= 1:2.2.1),
         libbsd0 (>= 0.7.0), libc6 (>= 2.35), libdrm2 (>= 2.4.66), libepoxy0 (>= 1.5.4), libeudev1 (>= 3.2.12), libgbm1 (>=
         17.1.0~rc2), libgcrypt20 (>= 1.10.0), libgl1, libpciaccess0 (>= 0.12.902), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.30.0), libseat1 (>= 0.5.0),
         libselinux1 (>= 3.1~), libunwind8, libxau6 (>= 1:1.0.9), libxcvt0 (>= 0.1.0), libxdmcp6, libxfont2 (>= 1:2.0.1),
         libxshmfence1
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.10.2-4), xcvt
Suggests: xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable
Conflicts: xserver-xorg-input-evtouch, xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
Breaks: libgl1-mesa-dri (< 18.0.5), systemd (< 226-4~), xserver-xorg (< 1:7.7+10~)
Replaces: xserver-xorg (< 1:7.7+10~), xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
Provides: xorg-input-abi-24, xorg-video-abi-25, xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
Description: Xorg X server - core server
 The Xorg X server is an X server for several architectures and operating systems, which is derived from the XFree86 4.x series of X
 servers. 
 
 The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors, and supersedes all XFree86 X servers. 
 
 More information about X.Org can be found at: <URL:https://www.x.org> 
 
 This package is built from the X.org xserver module.
Homepage: https://www.x.org/

I also checked the apt cache for recent debs:

$ ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives |grep xserver-xorg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1365092 Oct 26 09:56 xserver-xorg-core_2%3a21.1.7-3+deb12u2devuan1_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   122432 Feb 12  2022 xserver-xorg-input-evdev_1%3a2.10.6-2+b1_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    69248 Feb 12  2022 xserver-xorg-input-mouse_1%3a1.9.3-1+b1_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   214892 Mar 23  2023 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.9.2-1+b1_amd64.deb

This is the relevant Debian security advisory:
https://www.debian.org/security/2023/dsa-5576-2

According to that web page, the xserver-xorg-core package in Daedalus is two versions behind.

#79 Re: News & Announcements » Debian and 32-bit x86 » 2023-12-21 23:32:05

Alpine Linux still supports 32-bit (i686) systems:

https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Requirements

And for some other ideas, check out these articles:

15 Linux Distros That Still Support 32-Bit Architecture
https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-distros … t-support/

15 Linux Distributions You Can Rely on for Your Ancient 32-bit Computer
https://itsfoss.com/32-bit-linux-distributions/

Unfortunately, both articles are now out of date, so you'll need to ignore Debian and the Debian derivatives listed in both articles.

#80 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-12 19:30:31

golinux wrote:

Falkon piqued my interest but as soon as I found out it was KDE that was it.

Falkon might be a good choice for those people who are using LXQt (or KDE).

golinux wrote:

I actually installed KDE once in its early days. It didn't last long for the reasons mentioned above and that everything was so 'twitchy' and I would be spending too much time turning off all that ADD-inducing garbage . . .

Several years ago I used an online builder to create a liveCD of openSUSE with a KDE desktop. It was so bloated and slow that it was essentially unusable.

#81 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-12 19:08:34

aluma wrote:

You can probably block Javascript on pages, but then the necessary functions will not work.

That is only true if you use a heavy-handed approach, such as disabling Javascript completely or using an extension like NoScript (with default settings).

I use these extensions:

uBlock Origin
NoScript (with scripts allowed globally).

With that combination, breakage is rare. And when it does occur, it is easily fixed. I usually disable uBlock Origin on websites that involve transactions, like banking and shopping websites, as a proactive measure.

NoScript in the above combination may appear to be redundant, but it's not. Although uBlock Origin does most of the work, NoScript provides protection against cross-site scripting attacks.

#82 Re: Off-topic » Weak processor + minimal DE = no miracle! » 2023-12-12 17:02:45

If you haven't done so already, try the Falkon web browser. For comparison sake (if you're so inclined).

# apt install falkon

#83 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-12-11 16:14:36

I had to put this project on the back burner for awhile, but recently started working on it again. I went ahead and installed the latest Refracta (based on Daedalus) on this laptop. The keyboard seems to work just fine, but the touchpad doesn't work, and none of the solutions I have tried have worked. Investigating further, I have discovered that the touchpad isn't even being detected.

Another person with this problem has looked into the code and believes that many of these Lenovo laptops have a bug in their ACPI firmware. I suspect that he may be correct because I have noticed that, when using Refracta, the screen never sleeps. It is always on, even when I have not used the laptop for fifteen or twenty minutes (or more).

Since I basically reached a dead end on this (at least for now), I decided to see what Windows could tell me about this touchpad. Using a device information utility that I found in the directory for the touchpad driver I obtained this information:

Device Information
-------------------------------------------------------------
KBC Mode:		Legacy
TouchPad Port:		0
Device Type:		Profile Device
Module Type:		SmartPad
Port0 Status:		Enable
Port0 Type:		0x0310
D100:			49 84 14 
D101:			35 0F 00 
D102:			48 17 0B 
X,Y Max:		2436,1044
Fastest Report Rate:	77

Driver Information
-------------------------------------------------------------
Driver Version:				ELAN Touchpad 11.15.0.18_X64
ButtonEnable				0x00000001 (1)
Left_Button_Func			0x00000000 (0)
Middle_Button_Func			0x00000002 (2)
Right_Button_Func			0x00000001 (1)
Tap_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Tap_T1_Time				0x000000C8 (200)
Tap1_Func				0x00000000 (0)
Tap2_ShowItem				0x00000001 (1)
Tap2_Func				0x00000001 (1)
Tap3_ShowItem				0x00000000 (0)
Tap3_Func				0x00000007 (7)
Two_V_Scroll_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Two_H_Scroll_ShowItem			0x00000000 (0)
Two_H_Scroll_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Two_Auto_Scroll_ShowItem		0x00000000 (0)
Two_Auto_Scroll_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Two_Scroll_Speed			0x00000002 (2)
Zoom_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Zoom_STV				0x00000002 (2)
Rotation_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Rotation_Circular_ShowItem		0x00000000 (0)
Rotation_Circular_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Drag_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Drag_Radio				0x00000002 (2)
Drag_Radio2_Slider			0x00000004 (4)
Swipe_Page_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_Page_Kind				0x00000002 (2)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Func			0x00000018 (24)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Mode			0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Func		0x00000019 (25)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Mode		0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Func		0x00000009 (9)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Mode		0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Func		0x00000008 (8)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Mode		0x00000000 (0)
Palm_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Palm_Slider				0x00000004 (4)
STV_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
STV_Silder				0x00000005 (5)
SM_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
SM_Radio				0x00000000 (0)
SM_Radio2_Slider			0x00000002 (2)
SM_Up_Range				0x000000E0 (224)
SM_Down_Range				0x000000B0 (176)
SM_Left_Range				0x000000A0 (160)
SM_Right_Range				0x000000A0 (160)
SM_Triger_Counter			0x00000000 (0)
SL_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
SL_Key					0x00000000 (0)
Edge_V_Scroll_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Edge_H_Scroll_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Edge_Auto_Scroll_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Edge_V_Scroll_Area			0x00000002 (2)
Edge_V_Scroll_Area			0x00000002 (2)
Edge_Scroll_Speed			0x00000002 (2)
Circular_Scroll_ShowItem		0x00000000 (0)
Circular_Scroll_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Mag_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Mag_Kind				0x00000002 (2)
DoubleTapToOnOffDevice_ShowItem		0x00000000 (0)
DoubleTapToOnOffDevice_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Momentum_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Momentum_Slider				0x00000005 (5)
Momentum_Bounce_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Up_Range			0x000000C8 (200)
SmartArea_Down_Range			0x00000019 (25)
SmartArea_Left_Range			0x00000190 (400)
SmartArea_Right_Range			0x00000190 (400)
FourFingerMove_Up_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Up_Func			0x00000020 (32)
FourFingerMove_Down_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Down_Func		0x00000013 (19)
FourFingerMove_Left_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Left_Func		0x00000803 (2051)
FourFingerMove_Right_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Right_Func		0x00000803 (2051)
EGS_InertialScroll_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
EGS_ContinueScroll_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
EGS_CornerArea_Reject_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
SC_InertialScroll_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
SC_ContinueScroll_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Palm_Always_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
EdgeZoom_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Edge_1F_SwipePage_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Edge_2F_SwipePage_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Tap3_Press_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Cover_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Cover_Func				0x00000013 (19)
SC_Free_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Corner_Tap_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Corner_Tap_BL_Func			0x0000000F (15)
Corner_Tap_BL_Width			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BL_Height			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BR_Func			0x00000006 (6)
Corner_Tap_BR_Width			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BR_Height			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TL_Func			0x00000013 (19)
Corner_Tap_TL_Width			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TL_Height			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TR_Func			0x00000005 (5)
Corner_Tap_TR_Width			0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TR_Height			0x0000015E (350)
TwoFinger_Double_Tap_ShowItem		0x00000000 (0)
TwoFinger_Double_Tap_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Two_Finger_Click_Func		0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Three_Finger_Click_Func	0x00000007 (7)
ClickPad_LeftCorner_Click_Func		0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_RightCorner_Click_Func		0x00000001 (1)
DualMode_TP_Mode			0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_AllArea			0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Tap		0x000003E8 (1000)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Move		0x000003E8 (1000)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Gesture	0x000003E8 (1000)
DynamicPalmTap_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
DynamicPalmTap_RatioX			0x00000008 (8)
DynamicPalmTap_RatioY			0x00000008 (8)
Win8EdgeSwipeLeft_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeRight_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeTop_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeBottom_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Grab_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Tap2_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Drag_Delay_Time_Adjust_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Drag_Delay_Time_Adjust_Value		0x000001F4 (500)
EGS_Reverse_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
SC_Reverse_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Two_Finger_Click_Enable	0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Three_Finger_Click_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_LeftCorner_Click_Enable	0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_RightCorner_Click_Enable	0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Four_Finger_Click_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
Scroll_2F_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Scroll_Edge_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_3F_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_4F_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Four_Finger_Click_Func		0x00000007 (7)
Swipe_4F_Enable_Mode			0x00000000 (0)
SmartDetect_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
SmartDetect_Up_Range			0x00000043 (67)
SmartDetect_Down_Range			0x00000043 (67)
SmartDetect_Left_Range			0x00000080 (128)
SmartDetect_Right_Range			0x00000080 (128)
Tap_Activate_Enable			0x00000001 (1)
Tap1_Enable				0x00000001 (1)
Tap3_Enable				0x00000000 (0)
Gesture_Effect_Mode			0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Enable		0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Return_Middle_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Return_End_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_To_Down_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Up_To_Down_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Top_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Right_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Bottom_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
DWT_Unit				0x00000001 (1)
DWT_Left_Range				0x000007D0 (2000)
DWT_Right_Range				0x000007D0 (2000)
DWT_Top_Range				0x000004E2 (1250)
DWT_Bottom_Range			0x00000000 (0)
DWT_AZone_Touch_Then_Free		0x00000001 (1)
Scroll_2F_Enable_ShowItem		0x00000001 (1)
Two_V_Scroll_ShowItem			0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Edge_Range		0x0000005A (90)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Triger_Radius		0x00000050 (80)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Triger_Angle		0x00000032 (50)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Mode			0x00000000 (0)
FreeTyping_Enable			0x00000000 (0)
FreeTyping_Mode				0x00000258 (600)
SmartArea_Restrict_Move			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Restrict_Tap			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_IdleTime			0x00000003 (3)
SmartArea_IdleTime_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
SC_Speed_Has_8_Level			0x00000000 (0)
EGS_Speed_Has_8_Level			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_IdleTime_Unit			0x000003E8 (1000)
MultiFingerGesture_Enable		0x00000001 (1)
SmartArea_Unit				0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_BreakTime			0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipe_CharmSelect_Enable	0x00000000 (0)
Disable_When_Type_By_AP_Time		0x00000000 (0)

Driver Status Information
-------------------------------------------------------------
TapEnable			0x00000001 (1)
MKValueEnable			0x00000001 (1)
MKValueMoveEnable		0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_Tap		0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_Move		0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_Gesture		0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenUSBMouse		0x00000000 (0)
ELANTouchPadPort		0x00000000 (0)
ELANPointStickPort		0x00000004 (4)
PreInputButtons_LB		0x00000000 (0)
PreInputButtons_MB		0x00000000 (0)
PreInputButtons_RB		0x00000000 (0)
MasterDeviceMode		0x00000004 (4)
PowerChangeETDDisable		0x00000000 (0)
OneTimeTap			0x00000000 (0)
Dragflag			0x00000000 (0)
DragLockFlag			0x00000000 (0)
TapOutRange			0x00000000 (0)
TapT1TimeTimerEnable		0x00000001 (1)
TapT1TimeFlag			0x00000000 (0)
NowGesture			0x00000000 (0)
SM_Not_In_Area			0x00000000 (0)
SL_Key_Down			0x00000000 (0)
EdgeScroll_Triger		0x00000000 (0)
EdgeScroll_OutArea		0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Pre_Status	0x00000000 (0)
TrayIcon_NowLevel		0x00000000 (0)
SwipePage_Pre_Status		0x00000000 (0)
CanWriteCommand			0x00000001 (1)
ToolMode			0x00000000 (0)
ToolMode_Intercept		0x00000000 (0)
TouchPadUIDisplay_Not_Use_INF	0x00000000 (0)
FingerQuadrant			0x00000000 (0)
AP_TWO_FINGER_SCROLL		0x00000001 (1)
AP_ZOOM				0x00000001 (1)
AP_ROTATE			0x00000000 (0)
AP_ZOOM_ONE_TIME		0x00000000 (0)
AP_ROTATE_FREE			0x00000000 (0)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_V_POWER		0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_V_UNIT		0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_H_POWER		0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_H_UNIT		0x00000010 (16)
AP_SCROLL_V_TO_APIX		0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_SCROLL	0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_ZOOM	0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_ROTATE	0x00000000 (0)
AutoScrollFunctionDisable	0x00000000 (0)
Tap_STV_OK			0x00000000 (0)
OpMode				0x00000000 (0)
CanDoGesture			0x00000000 (0)
PreGesture			0x00000000 (0)
EnableQueryMultiplexing		0x00000000 (0)
ScreenOrientation		0x00000000 (0)
bDisableTouchpadByLidClose	0x00000000 (0)
AtLoginScreenStatus		0x00000000 (0)
LidSwitchStateStatus		0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLL_H_TO_KERNEL		0x00000000 (0)
DiscardPacket			0x00000000 (0)
SupportCRCCheck			0x00000000 (0)
MultiFinger_Palm_Support	0x00000000 (0)
SMBus_Support_Self_dv		0x00000000 (0)
SMBus_Support_PS2_MultiPalm	0x00000000 (0)
AP_ZOOM_FREE			0x00000000 (0)
bIsPowerNoiseSolutionVerG	0x00000000 (0)
LED_Support			0x00000000 (0)
FiveButtonDualMode		0x00000000 (0)
SupportSmartPalm		0x00000000 (0)
PacketMouseDataLength		0x000002A0 (672)
PacketNumber			0x0002877B (165755)
bMergeCheckEnable		0x00000000 (0)
bMergeOccurs			0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea.RestrictMove		0x00000000 (0)
MomentumFunctionStart		0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea.RestrictTap		0x00000000 (0)
AutoScrollEnable		0x00000000 (0)
PSTWorkAndDisableTouchPadEnable	0x00000000 (0)
PSTWorkAndDisableTouchPad	0x00000000 (0)
AllocateWorkItemFailCount	0x00000000 (0)

Mice and other pointing devices information
-------------------------------------------------------------
Service:		i8042prt
UpperFilter:		ETD
Hardware ID:		ACPI\VEN_ETD&DEV_061A
Hardware ID:		ACPI\ETD061A
Hardware ID:		*ETD061A
Compatible ID:		*PNP0F13

Service:		mouhid
UpperFilter:		mouhid
Hardware ID:		HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F&REV_0100
Hardware ID:		HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F
Hardware ID:		HID\VID_0461&UP:0001_U:0002
Hardware ID:		HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_MOUSE
Hardware ID:		HID_DEVICE_UP:0001_U:0002
Hardware ID:		HID_DEVICE

USB Mouse HID Information
-------------------------------------------------------------
Mouse HID:		HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F\7&249ca22b&0&0000

Since the problem appears to be an ACPI firmware bug, that information may not be very helpful, but maybe some clever person has found a workaround.

#84 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Sylpheed no longer working » 2023-11-20 03:10:58

Are you saying that you are now able to retrieve email from your Gmail account without using OAuth2?

#85 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Refracta ISOs » 2023-11-04 20:44:10

I tried to verify the GPG signature using the procedure that I found here:

https://get.refracta.org/files/beowulf/README.txt

Apparently, some of the info is outdated because this step failed:

$ gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 094c5620

I can't supply the exact error message, but it basically said something like "The server returned no data."

Is there a new procedure for verifying the GPG signature?

#86 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-03 01:12:34

The problem with Ventoy is, that because of the way that it works, it must be constantly updated. And what that means is that when a new distro is released, there is a chance that Ventoy won't work (until it is updated to fix the problem).

Here is a similar solution that does not have that problem: Easy2Boot.

Easy2Boot has its own problems, but it is much less likely to fail when used to boot a newly released distro.

I like and use Ventoy, but I think it is a good idea to keep Ventoy and Easy2Boot USB drives on hand for better flexibility. On the other hand, since Easy2Boot now includes Ventoy, that may be the better solution, particularly if you want to minimize the number of USB drives dedicated to this purpose.

#87 Re: Installation » Systemd-boot(it's actually not tied to systemd) possible in devuan? » 2023-10-27 01:43:31

As an alternative to systemd-boot, you may want to consider Limine.

Some info about Limine:

https://limine-bootloader.org/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Limine

I learned about it a few months ago when I playing around with EasyOS.

#88 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-22 20:33:17

xinomilo wrote:

that tool (clamav really) was running for years scanning all server files. this is the 1st time i got notifications and though i immediately thought of it as false positives, i guessed it'd be better to get official confirmation...
and not all "digests" give false positives notifications.

In retrospect, I think it would have been better to contact the developer of LMD and ask him or her why LMD thinks that there is malicious PHP code in those files. That way, you would have a better chance of receiving an answer, and from the person most qualified to answer the question. And you would more than likely give the developer an opportunity to improve his software. It appears that someone else may have done that since the problem now seems to be gone (according to my testing).

#89 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-22 09:24:17

czeekaj wrote:

I'd be careful with some git repos or even possible for spoofing to MitM attack package distribution.

Some Debian derivatives (e.g., Kicksecure) run apt through Tor to help prevent such attacks. It seems like a good idea, but I imagine that some people will find that it is painfully slow, especially if they are accustomed to very fast internet access. A good VPN would almost certainly be faster.

#90 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-21 03:04:13

Is LMD still alerting on those package digest files? I downloaded those files today, and then installed clamav and LMD. I ran maldet manually and had it analyze those files. It didn't find anything.

#91 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-19 22:40:32

xinomilo wrote:

a simple question about reported malware in contents, doesn't get any official feedback
what's up?

If you haven't done so already, try the mailing list:

https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/m … stinfo/dng

#92 Re: Other Issues » malware on devuan repos or false positives? » 2023-10-18 16:44:58

xinomilo wrote:

virustotal doesn't report any malware, but i'm not sure, they're using unofficial ruleset for clamav checks. strange that no other antivirus finds it though.

Only two of those have been submitted to VirusTotal. I searched VirusTotal for all of them, and only found these two:

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/fe1 … b8fb0f7375
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/29e … f5dacb539a

By the way, thanks for posting about this. I had never read about Linux Malware Detect (LMD) until I read your post.

#93 Re: Installation » Devuan repository with insecure connection? Can't be ... » 2023-09-17 10:59:57

Altoid wrote:

What's going on?

The download link uses "http" instead of "https".

Go ahead and download it, but be sure to check the package before installing it.

Like so:

sha256sum -c file-name.deb

Then compare the output with the published value listed on the web page for that package. The values should match.

#94 Re: Devuan » Qemu shared folder » 2023-09-05 21:19:23

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

I've used this. It works. I like the fact that a normal, non-root user can write to the shared directory from the guest system. I seem to recall that on VirtualBox I always had to be root in order to do that.

#95 Re: Devuan » Question for devs... Debian 12 can be installed without systemd » 2023-09-05 21:09:06

Camtaf wrote:

AntiX & MX Linux developers have been supplying Debian systemd free distros since the original debacle. smile

I did hint that they might like to use Devuan instead, but they stuck with Debian, so, yes, it can be done. wink

I looked at antiX not so long ago. I forget when, but it was within the last several years. And when I did, it was clear to me that they are using some packages from Devuan.

Here is one quick example:

Format: 3.0 (quilt)
Source: policykit-1
Binary: policykit-1, policykit-1-doc, gir1.2-polkit-1.0, libpolkit-agent-1-0, libpolkit-agent-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev
Architecture: any all
Version: 0.105-31.0nosystemd3
Origin: Devuan
Maintainer: Devuan Dev Team <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>
Uploaders: Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com>, Dimitri Puzin <max@psycast.de>, Daniel Reurich <daniel@centurion.net.nz>, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Homepage: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/polkit/
Standards-Version: 4.5.0
Vcs-Browser: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/policykit-1/
Vcs-Git: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/policykit-1.git
Testsuite: autopkgtest
Build-Depends: dbus <!nocheck>, debhelper-compat (= 12), gobject-introspection (>= 0.9.12-4~), gtk-doc-tools, intltool (>= 0.40.0), libexpat1-dev, libgirepository1.0-dev (>= 0.9.12), libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.28.0), libglib2.0-doc, libgtk-3-doc, libpam0g-dev, libselinux1-dev [linux-any], libelogind-dev [linux-any], pkg-config, xsltproc
Package-List:
 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 deb introspection optional arch=any
 libpolkit-agent-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-agent-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 deb oldlibs optional arch=all
 libpolkit-gobject-1-dev deb oldlibs optional arch=all
 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 deb libs optional arch=any
 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-dev deb libdevel optional arch=any
 policykit-1 deb admin optional arch=linux-any
 policykit-1-doc deb doc optional arch=all
Checksums-Sha1:
 53d56484a5bffb0aaf645c8d813b3063e01e8423 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 f149eb562acc449182c0c5e4394e72ad635c4d27 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz
Checksums-Sha256:
 8fdc7cc8ba4750fcce1a4db9daa759c12afebc7901237e1c993c38f08985e1df 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 e0d18d5ab59d94157aea4f3665cedeb091a9173d2b558242e01bcbe917c3044c 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz
Files:
 9c29e1b6c214f0bd6f1d4ee303dfaed9 1431080 policykit-1_0.105.orig.tar.gz
 eecb14d72cdd7c8e7b7b2a26a0c609f1 83144 policykit-1_0.105-31.0nosystemd3.debian.tar.xz

Source:
http://repo.antixlinux.com/bookworm/poo … stemd3.dsc

#96 Re: Other Issues » K3B without udisks2? » 2023-08-23 07:07:36

This might be possible, with some difficulty. Back in 2017 I created a Debian Jessie live CD that used SysVinit instead of systemd. Since I wanted this system to fit on a CD, I excluded as much stuff as possible that wasn't needed for the purpose for which it was designed. As a result, there was no udisks present, nor a bunch of related packages. It was possible because I found a file manager that could mount disks without it -- SpaceFM.

#97 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-08 00:35:11

Thank-you. Okay, here are the results:

#1:

# dmesg | grep -i keyboard
[   13.000115] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input8
[   22.030425] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: Keyboard backlight control not available

#2:

# xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse                	id=10	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ ELAN Touchscreen                        	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                               	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=8	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                            	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Lenovo EasyCamera : Lenovo Easy         	id=12	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Ideapad extra buttons                   	id=13	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard            	id=14	[slave  keyboard (3)]

#98 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-07 16:32:47

pcalvert
Replies: 4

I was planning to install Refracta 11.2 on a Lenovo Ideapad S210 Touch "netbook"; however, after the live system fully loads the touchpad and keyboard do not work at all. A USB mouse that I plugged in works, so that's an acceptable temporary workaround for the nonfunctional touchpad, but I still need a working keyboard to use the installer.

I also tried SystemRescue (formerly SystemRescueCD). With SystemRescue, the touchpad is also nonfunctional, but the keyboard works just fine. With a USB mouse plugged in, I was able to prepare the HDD by deleting all of the Windows partitions.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I should proceed?

#99 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-06-05 01:35:29

fanderal wrote:

Perhaps the AI 'bias' (lying) is to facilitate the perspective below?

Planet Lockdown
Catherine Austin Fitts Interview
Dec 29, 2020
NOTE: video was banned on facebook and youtube in Feb 2021 after 20+M views
48:28
https://odysee.com/@VideosBannedFromYou … Lockdown:f

Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is the best interview of Catherine Austin Fitts that I have ever watched.

Here is another great interview that is more recent:

Financial System - Lawless Criminal Control Syndicate – Catherine Austin Fitts
https://rumble.com/v1e7l4f-financial-sy … fitts.html

#100 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » EXT4 BUG? Data loss when I have launched sigil :s » 2023-05-27 20:32:59

It's fairly well known that the design of EXT4 favors speed over data integrity, which is why I always use tune2fs to adjust the filesystem parameters after creating an EXT4 filesystem (if I care about the data on that partition). I'd post the command that I use, but I am currently composing this message on a Windows laptop, and don't have easy access to my notes.

Even so, I doubt that EXT4 is the culprit in this case. My intuition is telling me that you may have somehow gotten a hold of a trojanized (malicious) version of Sigil, as unlikely as that may seem. Since that's probably not the case, perhaps you were just hit with a rare, nasty bug (though not necessarily in ext4).

This information may be helpful:

How to verify that package-installed files match originals?
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … -originals

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