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#952 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-12-21 23:35:57

Here's a joke:

What did gtk2 say to the system?

gtk2: "Do this, this, and this please"
system: No problem, will do!"

What did gtk3 say to the system?

gtk3:"lke rnl kSnbl ekjajhlkjnxkenjn cejxkjn"
system: "What the hell was that crap? Falling back to gtk2"
gtk3: "The hell you will"

aaarrrgh.

#953 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-21 02:26:16

New Mate-mini Vuu-do uploaded!

Now maybe I can take a break, happy holidays everybody!

#954 Re: DIY » α-utilz -- a funky version of refractasnapshot/installer » 2024-12-20 22:03:16

Yep, Refracta uses it, that's where I first ran across it and started using it. MUCH smaller than Zenity, yet does everything I need it to so far.

Just noticed your link to MIYO based projects, gonna have to download that and give it a try, I love me some Miyo, all the stuff I do now is originally based on Miyo from back in 2017.

#955 Re: DIY » α-utilz -- a funky version of refractasnapshot/installer » 2024-12-20 15:30:10

I could be tempted to try to make a gui for it, but it's a bit out of my league really.

Yad is your friend. wink The learning curve is very small, once you figure it out it's pretty fun messing with it.

Yad+shellscript and you can make a machine do anything, i'm having a blast with it last few days, mocked up a script+gui last night to adjust xset settings in lieu of using a dedicated screensaver/power manager.

#956 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » NVidia issues » 2024-12-20 15:24:12

The nouveau driver has gotten a lot better in my experience, I used to hate it like the plague. But now it works pretty good, at least the last time I tried it, ran a desktop computer I have that was connected to a 50" TV and picture was great.

#957 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-19 15:25:11

I just can't help myself, it's like a 7 year itch, once I start it's hard to stop.

Yesterday I built a Vuu-do Mate mini and rolled up the iso late last night, testing it today. It wasn't bad at all as i'd already laid the groundwork, I built it off the openbox mini so it already had all the hardest stuff done. And best of all I just barely made it to CD size, 699.5 mb!

Just installed core Mate packages plus useful caja right-click options, was already using Pluma and Engrampa anyway, but I didn't throw the whole Mate kitchen sink at it, for good reason, actually used some different options for some things.

The EOM mate picture viewer, task-manager/system monitor, calculator, and screenshot additions together are over 100 mb of stuff, just to do simple tasks.

Gpicview, LXtask, Galculator and Scrot do all the same stuff basically, and together are less than 10 mb and work much faster. Even got all my regular choice of keybinds working great.

It's dang fast for Mate, not quite as quick as Openbox, but very nice. Not sure i'm going to do a maximal version though. Maybe.

Right now the menu is super-quick, but in a full version the svg icons slow it down and make it glitch (at least on my low power machine), svg icons i'm seeing these days are much smaller and better than they used to be, but still for major programs i'd need to make png copies in several sizes and use those instead to stop the menu issues on older machines like mine.

Still pondering the idea of a fully translatable version of the openbox max. But man, that's probably an extra 600 mb of stuff when all is said and done, and I have never tried to change languages on a machine, don't even know how and wouldn't be able to test properly if I did, I speak a little Spanish but not enough.

#958 Re: Other Issues » Cant edit old posts with dead links to the old wiki » 2024-12-18 15:10:50

I asked about that a while back, apparently there's a time limit on editing older posts. Just have to make a new post. hmm

#959 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 not Booting on 2005 Toshiba Tecra A7 Intel Centrino Duo » 2024-12-17 17:32:51

^^ Yep.

In practice the only few times swap has ever been used on my machines, was because something went very wrong with some particular program and it went wild chewing up all the ram. Usually this was my fault, messing about trying experimental stuff and not having a plethora of ram to start with.

#960 Re: Off-topic » The Crappiness of Modern Laptops » 2024-12-17 16:41:29

I'm with @Carolina In My Mind on this one, my current old dog is a 2012 Compaq, still going strong, of course the battery finally gave up the ghost last year and I have to plug it in to use, one of the hinges is slightly broken, and occasionally I have to put wood-working clamp on the monitor as it has some mild de-lamination issues of some sort, lol.

But I love it, it has served me very well for 10 years. I don't use the touchpad though, never could stand those things, I just use a USB mouse.

#961 Re: Off-topic » Introduction and Thanks to goat » 2024-12-17 16:35:16

Welcome to Devuan and the forum!

Your comments about Windows are spot-on, I stopped using it altogether years ago.

This community has always been kind and helpful to me for the 8 years i've been a part of it, and this forum, small as it is, is still an easily searchable resource with a wealth of information. I hope it works out for you as well! smile

#962 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 not Booting on 2005 Toshiba Tecra A7 Intel Centrino Duo » 2024-12-17 16:08:17

Is there a technical/speed advantage or disadvantage to having SWAP at the end of the drive?

Does having SWAP at the end make it easier to reconfigure the other partitions when necessary?

1. No speed advantage that i'm aware of, I don't even know how you'd measure that.
2. Depends on what you mean by "reconfigure" I guess. As long as i've been with linux that's just always the way it's been done, i've always assumed there were good reasons for that, perhaps somebody more knowledgeable can say why.

I agree every firmly with Kapqa's post (#50), on older machines burning to a CD or DVD is pretty much bullet-proof and works for me every time, plus after burning I now have a hard copy of the .iso that will last forever unless it gets scratched up too bad or set on fire.

I have old distros and projects of mine on CD going back to 2009, every now and then I boot one up just for fun and look at what I did back then.

All that being said, running a distro off a stick is fun, and frequently in my experience runs faster usually than really old hard drives, I have run old machines for months on either a stick or a CD (Puppy Linux back when it was actually small).

Mintstick works really well if you just want a pure liveUSB and nothing else, it's in the repo. For all other chores i'm sticking with Refracta2usb, it seem complex at first, but after you've used it a few times you really begin to appreciate it's versatility.

#963 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 not Booting on 2005 Toshiba Tecra A7 Intel Centrino Duo » 2024-12-17 01:09:49

@mtbvfr:
1. 30 gigs should be sufficient unless the user wants to put 40 gigs of video on that partition.
2. In practice I haven't had to use swap in years, but in general it doesn't need to be any bigger than the size of RAM installed. 4 gigs is plenty.
3. I usually use the last partition (sda4) for swap.
4. I use legacy BIOS (grub-pc) non-efi on my machines, and currently I don't need to add the boot flag for any of the partitions. For making a liveUSB it required it, but for a regular installed system using MBR/legacy BIOS/Grub-pc I haven't had to add the boot flag to the main partition in forever. Not using it now on the very system i'm posting from (Devuan 5 daedalus).

#964 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2024-12-16 22:10:06

Yikes I necro-posted to an old thread, sorry. But since I did, I took another look at OP's original question as i'm messing with USB stuff today. And I think what he was asking mainly for, is if he could take a CLI-only system (no X), roll it up into a hybrid-iso, put that on a stick, and use it to do a no-X install from the live session.

I'm guessing yes. Refracta-Snapshot and Installer both can work from the command line without a GUI.

And rather than use Refracta2usb, if you just want a regular liveUSB that you can install from and don't need multi-boot or persistence or all that, if Mintstick will run from the command line without needing the GUI, then it should do the trick of formatting and writing for you without a lot of configuring to do.

Just a guess though. I don't have any CLI-only systems that I could use to test.

#965 Re: Installation » how to get a team work between refractasnapshot and refracta2usb? » 2024-12-16 20:19:43

Refracta2usb kicks a**, spaghetti code or not, it does not make any decisions for me, it does exactly what I want.

Mintstick is cool for what it's intended, utterly simple fast way to make a LiveUSB. But that's it, that's all it will do, no persistence and it uses the entirety of the USB stick and nothing else can go on there.

I'm posting right now, from a USB stick I did this morning with Refracta2usb, It has 3 partitions, fat32 boot - ext2 persistence - fat32 data

I can boot a simple live session and do a clean install of the system with it, boot live with persistence (/home is what I am using, not full persistence), and have a 3rd partition that's readable to any computer to store data, specifically with intent to temporarily store any data saved if i'm rescuing data for someone and you don't even have to boot the liveUSB to view that data. Or if I have some data files myself I need to move to like the library computer, I can just throw them on there.

@fsmtihred if I can be at all helpful in refining the spaghetti, let me know, i'd enjoy messing with it, but need some direction from you on what you'd like to see happen.

#966 Re: Documentation » How to: Devuan 5 Daedalus an pipewire » 2024-12-15 18:04:41

He's complimenting you, he's saying you're not old or a geezer.  I agree. wink

Only config i've ever had to do with ALSA, is add an .asoundrc in some cases, on machines that have more than one sound device (i.e. HDMI) and on the newest version to use the built-in equalizer:

ctl.equal {
	type equal;
}

pcm.plugequal {
    type equal;
	slave.pcm "plughw:0,0";
}

pcm.equal{
    type plug;
    slave.pcm plugequal;

New command to invoke it, I used it in a menu entry:

'lxterminal --geometry=100x30 -e alsamixer -D equal'

#967 Re: Documentation » How to: Devuan 5 Daedalus an pipewire » 2024-12-15 05:39:41

Am I the only old geezer who runs pure ALSA and nothing else? tongue

#969 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Question about update-rc.d » 2024-12-14 19:21:40

thanks, i either make stuff that is very useful or very useless, no in between.

I seem to do the same thing, but can't bring myself to chunk 'em, I have a "crap" folder I throw into. Wife asked me one day why I keep that stuff at all, and I told her it's for the same reason I have two full totes of old wire, cabling and cords in the garage, lol. You just never know when it _might_ become useful. wink

#970 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-13 16:08:22

Thanks my friend! It's been good for me, learned a LOT of new stuff along the way so it was worth the effort for that alone.

Updated and cleaned up the Sourceforge pages a fair bit, still have some more to do though. Am taking a small break right now, but about to begin work on the maximal version, but that should be fairly easy, the real work is in grinding out all the configs in the minimal.

Weird calling it a minimal when it's actually larger then the maximal of Vuu-do 1, the times they are a-changin'.......

#971 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Question about update-rc.d » 2024-12-13 02:26:32

Marking this as solved.

@EDX-0 still checking out what you're doing, good stuff!

#972 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Firmware update for AMD GPU certificate error ?? or old source.list » 2024-12-13 01:25:33

This may be one of the DNS errors some folks are experiencing.

I'm having the same DNS problem, so my current sources.list that works is:

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main 

I used this to download/install the very AMD firmware you mentioned.

Hope this helps!

#973 Re: DIY » init bloat » 2024-12-13 00:25:32

Cool, thanks for the link! One of these days i'm going to try and compile my own kernel for a specific machine and chop the heck outta everything to see how small I can get it all. Fun project for a minimalist like me who likes to mess with things.

I'm even more motivated these days since current kernel on my machine is 408 mb, wow, I remember when they were much smaller....

#974 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-13 00:07:33

IT IS ALIVE! Back from the grave like a good zombie after a 7 year hiatus. wink

#975 Re: Installation » Remote directory for updates deb.devuan.org not work !!! » 2024-12-12 15:32:45

So try deb.devuan.org and post output if that fails. You might have ping blocked, you could check that by trying to get to http://deb.devuan.org in a broswer.

Tried yesterday both. Can get to the link using my browser, but pinging brought no results. Also tested it in Synaptic (changed sources.list back to default) and it wouldn't work there either.

No biggie for me, just reporting results for the database.  My ISP is Alliance Communications here in the US (fiber).

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