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#951 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-BAD RAM] Browser crashes on Devuan 3 and 4,... » 2022-02-12 20:22:58

Ron wrote:
ron@ron:~$ echo $?
137

Do you actually have 3700MB? The kernel & video card will allocate some of your 4GB to themselves so check free to see how much is left. Anyway I don't think this is a memory shortage issue.

andyprough wrote:

I was not aware that Steve may be bundling libraries in a manner that violates The Debian Way

He has to do that because the Pale Moon licence doesn't allow otherwise. If Pale Moon were to be packaged using system libraries it would have to be de-branded and re-named.

#952 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to remove elogind postinstall in Xfce4 in order to use consolekit2 » 2022-02-12 16:12:27

If wlan0 is listed in /etc/network/interfaces then connman will ignore it. Use either ifupdown or connman, not both.

EDIT: if you're running chimaera then I would recommend iwd instead:

# apt install iwd orphan-sysvinit-scripts wpa_supplicant- connman- dhclient-
# cp /usr/share/orphan-sysvinit-scripts/iwd /etc/init.d/
# update-rc.d iwd defaults

Then use iwctl to configure your wireless connection and add this to /etc/iwd/main.conf:

[General]
EnableNetworkConfiguration=true

And add a network configuration stanza to /var/lib/iwd/<name of SSID>.psk, for example:

[IPv4]
Address=192.168.0.23
Netmask=255.255.255.0
Gateway=192.168.0.1

The wlan0 lines can be removed from /etc/network/interfaces once iwd is configured.

See also https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Using_IWD

#953 Re: Devuan » Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme » 2022-02-12 16:10:40

Beautiful work! Very well done to all involved.

@xinomilo: what a gorgeous place to live, I am very jealous.

#954 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-BAD RAM] Browser crashes on Devuan 3 and 4,... » 2022-02-12 16:08:52

Can you share the full error?

4GiB is certainly enough for Firefox, even for my Arch box with 32GiB of RAM available:

737.1 MiB +   1.0 GiB =   1.7 GiB	firefox (15)

I think you'll have to tell the Pale Moon developers about their broken POS software big_smile

You can generate a stack trace for them by following https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace but I don't know about the relevant debug symbols. Ask on their forums.

#955 Re: Installation » The best init system » 2022-02-11 18:03:40

I like OpenRC because it's easy to manage with rc-update & rc-status.

#956 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] apt autoremove wants to remove 243 packages » 2022-02-11 18:00:53

OzarkPatriot wrote:

As stated, I had w3m installed and installed elinks. I had the www-browser virtual package.

So the problem must have been caused by a different missing dependency for the desktop task. Reinstalling the entire task would have pulled it back in and been quicker and more convenient than reinstalling. Remember the trick next time this happens, as it probably will because you didn't get to the root cause and instead papered over the problem by reinstalling.

andyprough wrote:

I've removed Firefox-esr many times from Devuan Beowulf installs and never had this problem

Maybe I'm just plain wrong about the www-browser dependency then but I do seem to remember this cropping up before. Perhaps it only happens if the full desktop environment is installed with tasksel (which is used in the netinstall ISO).

andyprough wrote:

How many old, obscure, book-length forum posts does a person have to read to have a sane experience with Debian?

Lots. Debian has *many* obscure abstractions which complicate the experience massively compared to (for example) Arch.

andyprough wrote:

I didn't need a part D, but I like the aesthetic. The post seems more balanced this way.

I agree but I think it should be part d...

#957 Re: DIY » Nala (a prettier apt?) » 2022-02-11 17:53:23

Oops, sorry Mark, my fault.

nala looks very interesting, I'm always a sucker for terminal eye-candy, so thanks for the share :-)

Scrot of the pretty colours:

20220211-17h52m00s-grim.png

#958 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Login screen appear after 4 min after setting nftable rules. » 2022-02-11 17:38:40

SLiM is ancient, unmaintained and it doesn't support login sessions correctly. It probably has several other bugs as well thanks to 8 years of code rot.

Do you still experience the delay with (for example) GDM? How about a plain console login?

#959 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xmonad doenst work » 2022-02-10 17:57:30

chomwitt wrote:

my keyboard is a ergodox

Nice :-)

Anyway it looks like mod1 (<alt>) is actually the default in Debian's xmonad package so check ~/.xsession-errors after trying to launch xfce4-terminal a few times.

#960 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xmonad doenst work » 2022-02-10 16:15:49

Have you tried <Mod4>+<shift>+<return>? Mod4 is also known as the "Windows" key.

And is a terminal emulator installed?

update-alternatives --display x-terminal-emulator

Otherwise check ~/.xsession-errors for any clues.

#961 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Login screen appear after 4 min after setting nftable rules. » 2022-02-10 16:02:03

^ +1

@OP: what are you trying to achieve with that configuration? It will not be possible to connect to the internet unless you allow tracked connections, like this:

    ct state {established, related} accept

And the loopback device will also be blocked without

    iifname lo accept

I suspect the delay is due to either the loopback or internet block, check /var/log/messages for anything relevant.

#962 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] apt autoremove wants to remove 243 packages » 2022-02-10 15:53:33

OzarkPatriot wrote:

Fresh install solved the issue.

That's not a solution, it's a (poor) workaround. A number of possible solutions are listed in my provided link which you clearly couldn't be bothered reading.

For the benefit of anybody else who encounters this problem the actual solution would be to reinstall the desktop task so if you're using Xfce the command would be

# apt reinstall task-xfce-desktop

#963 Re: DIY » Nala (a prettier apt?) » 2022-02-10 15:49:17

andyprough wrote:

AUR-style repo for Debian-based distros

The quality of packaging in the AUR tends to be pretty poor so I'm not sure if that's particularly desirable.

#964 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] date -s trigger animation ? » 2022-02-10 15:47:54

SpongeBOB wrote:

So this is minor "bug"

I don't think so. If you're setting the time ahead by more than the timeout value for the screensaver then activation would be expected.

Why are you attempting to set the time manually? Can you not just install the ntp package and rely on the interweb instead?

#966 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] apt autoremove wants to remove 243 packages » 2022-02-09 06:28:49

Read https://forums.debian.net//viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157

Your desktop task has a dependency on the www-browser virtual package, which is provided by firefox-esr but not Brave. Installing something like w3m or elinks will supply the dependency.

#967 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-PENDING] First time r-e-i-s-u-b didn't work » 2022-02-09 06:24:33

golinux wrote:

something has to be allowed for it to work

^ This.

@OP: create a file at /etc/sysctl.d/reisub.conf with this content:

kernel.sysrq=1

Then reboot.

#968 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] intel_reg write is disabled upon display off/sleep » 2022-02-08 14:59:21

See https://github.com/edio/intelpwm-udev for a script, configuration file and udev rule to set the PWM frequency automatically.

#969 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing Devuan via command line » 2022-02-08 05:53:24

See https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … 03.en.html but note that the linked Debian debootstrap packages only support ASCII & beowulf so use https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/poo … bootstrap/ if you need chimaera or later.

#970 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED-BAD RAM] Browser crashes on Devuan 3 and 4,... » 2022-02-07 17:52:34

You could report the issue to the Vivaldi developers, perhaps they can do something about it.

The real problem here is that Google are now driving website development through their browser dominance. Classic EEE behaviour. That's why I use Firefox even though Mozilla make *terrible* management decisions — it's the only real alternative to a standards monopoly.

#971 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How install nftables ? » 2022-02-07 17:46:47

Here's the Debian source for the chimaera package:

https://salsa.debian.org/matthew/orphan … s/nftables

That version uses

# Default-Start:     S
# Default-Stop:      0 1 6

I'm running Alpine atm so I have no idea if that would work in Devuan beowulf.

#972 Re: Other Issues » Weird option in Chromium settings » 2022-02-07 17:43:23

I don't use uBlock so I'm sure golinux is correct.

#973 Re: Other Issues » Weird option in Chromium settings » 2022-02-07 16:52:51

Not if you're already bothering to disable the Analytics javascript in every site you visit.

#974 Re: Other Issues » Weird option in Chromium settings » 2022-02-07 15:56:27

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean … -is-closed

Note that the big G doesn't need the browser to track you because their ubiquitous Analytics tools already do that. Be sure to install the Analytics blocker extension that Google try to hide as best they can:

https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout?hl=en

#975 Re: Other Issues » "ly" Display Manager » 2022-02-07 15:52:41

Display managers usually look for .desktop files under /usr/share/xsessions/ so try Andy's suggestion at that location. EDIT: but I don't think the Exec line understands ~ so call the full path explicitly instead.

The Debian dwm package supplies such a file and can be easily customised by using

$ apt source dwm && cd dwm*
[edit files and apply patches]
$ dpkg-source --commit
$ debuild -us -uc
# apt install ../dwm*.deb

Check forums.debian.net for a more in-depth guide to the process.

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