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#726 News & Announcements » New version of sudo in Rust » 2023-09-02 19:11:59
- Altoid
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Hello:
Came across this today.
The sudo command-line tool has been implemented in the Rust programming language
to hopefully rid it of any exploitable memory-safety bugs.
Prossimo, a project overseen by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG),
announced the first stable release of sudo-rs this week. That open source codebase
includes the related su command-line program, again in Rust.
https://github.com/memorysafety/sudo-rs
Best,
A.
#727 News & Announcements » The Register's OS desk writes about Devuan Daedalus » 2023-08-21 21:19:39
- Altoid
- Replies: 4
Hello:
The Register's Liam Proven and his article on Devuan5:
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Version 5 of systemd-free Debian remix Devuan is here
Debian Bookworm without the controversial init – or the platform support, or the polish
Liam Proven - Mon 21 Aug 2023 // 10:00 UTC
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https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/21/ … ee_debian/
I am of those that think that itis better to be talked about than ignored, but ...
Devuan is a hard distro to summarize.
On the one hand, the sort of xNix graybeard who favours Debian is also exactly the sort of curmudgeon who harbors grave concern about systemd, so it's good that there's an option.On the other hand, it's bad that it split the already understaffed Debian developer community.
I'll just hold my thoughts and go make me a cuppa.
Best,
A.
#728 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-08 01:17:49
Hello:
Thank-you.
You're welcome.
#1:
# dmesg | grep -i keyboard [ 13.000115] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input8 [ 22.030425] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: Keyboard backlight control not available
Right, there is the working kb, as seen by SystemRescue.
#2:
# xinput list ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ ELAN Touchscreen id=11 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Sleep Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Lenovo EasyCamera : Lenovo Easy id=12 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Ideapad extra buttons id=13 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]
There is the PixArt USB Optical Mouse and what SystemRescue sees as a touch screen.
I assume that there's no such thing, just a touchpad.
Right?
I've had a quick look around and it seems that the Elan touchpads are a rather troublesome thingy for Linux.
Please do this:
sudo dmesg | grep -i elan to see *if* dmesg has something to say about the touchpad.
and
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i "input driver" to see what driver SystemRescue uses for the kb and post the results.
Best,
A.
#729 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop » 2023-08-07 19:35:32
Hello:
... Refracta 11.2 on a Lenovo Ideapad 210 Touch ...
... touchpad and keyboard do not work ...
... With SystemRescue, the touchpad is also nonfunctional, but the keyboard works just fine.
Seeing that System Rescue actuallu finds the keyboard, look at what its logs have to say about it:
~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i keyboard
As to the touchpad, see what x11 has to say:
xinput list #if you don't have it you need to install it:
sudo apt install xinput
Please post your findings.
Best,
A.
#730 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Is it possible to install czkawka? » 2023-08-05 11:04:05
Hello:
... czkawka hangs with a missing dependency libgtk-4-dev which is apparently not installable.
What version of Devuan are you attempting to install it in?
That package does not seem to be in the Debian repositories.
And as you surely know, not in the Debian repositories => not in the Devuan repositories.
That said, libgtk-4-dev is only available ceres:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/pack … .10.4+ds-2
and daedalus:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/pack … 4.8.3+ds-2
Best,
A.
#731 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-08-01 11:11:44
Hello:
... worth using free and vmstat to see how much your swap file is being used.
Yes, but it will have to wait till I have some time to do that.
For now, I seem to have solved the problem by installing 91.9.1esr.
... firefox must have something else wrong with it.
I do not use the 1000HE much, just roast coffee with it one a fortnight and keep it updated.
As I have not had to do any local travel since a couple of years before the pandemic hit, browser usage has been limited to accessing the web to check on something while/if my box was off-line which is not frequent so I cannot really say at which point this started happening.
Although I suspect it is this last (available) version
But something is amiss: either a bug or FF code now does things it did not do in previous versions.
Would not be at all surprised.
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#732 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-31 14:38:54
Hello:
... they have i386 for 78, 102 and 115, but they skipped 91.
... might find a suitable version somewhere else.
Found it here.
apt/synaptic won't be aware of it as this was not a .deb file.
The extracted folder is in /opt and symlinked the executable to /user/bin/firefox.
As expected, it loads with no problems and does not stress the CPU: I was able to untick all the boxes as I have always done.
No response delays whatsoever.
So whatever is going on with FF 102.13.0esr, it is poison for the 1000HE.
If by design (ie: not a bug) it is a rather dumb move for a i686 version.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#733 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-31 00:24:36
Hello:
Yes, the 91.13esr-1~deb10u1 would be suitable enough to test but I've been there.
Maybe I don't know what I am looking for?
ie: I don't see a "esr-1~deb10u1 i386" version.
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#734 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-30 23:31:26
Hello:
... installer has been picking up swap files from any ...
I don't think that should happen.
You have seen it in other (Debian based?) distributions because the installer code is common to all of them.
... put the swap on a separate HDD and really noticed ...
Yes, I also did that (another life, many years ago) when I could get my hand on another HDD.
When memory prices dropped, things changed a bit.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#735 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-30 23:21:55
Hello fsr:
... playing with an ASUS EEE ...
... what software to use on it.
... old Refracta Jessie on it that runs fine ...
Mine runs on 5.10.0-0.deb10.16-686-pae (5.10.127-2~bpo10+1).
I have resized the almost never used XP partition to get space for a larger swap file, now set at a ridiculous 12GB for testing purposes.
I reinstalled firefox-esr from the repository but it is practically unusable.
First thing I have always done when installing FF and other similar browsesr is go to the settings page and untick the default settings.
In this version of FF the UI has an absurd reponse time: between two or three sec. to see the box unticked.
Scrolling with the 1000HE's infamous touchpad is another problem, it takes almost two sec. to respond.
I have also noticed the CPU fan starting to blow after a while of doing nothing but what I describe above.
ie: no web related activity whatsoever, just FF open and changing the settings.
A consequence of this is that with the 1000HE plugged in, the battery charging light came on.
I have never seen this happen, not even when running the coffee roasting program.
... the cpu is the limiting issue.
I'm sure of it, but I do not recall this happening with previous versions of FF.
Curiously enough (or not) the usually sluggish (but not unusable) coffee roasting sofware I use on the 1000HE has acquired a snappiness it did not have when the swap file was set at its previous value of 8GB, so one for the good guys.
I have been looking all over but cannot find an older version of firefox-esr to try, ideally two or three behind the acual one.
Know where I can download it to test on the 1000HE?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#736 Re: Installation » Howto install dual-boot Windows Linux best method » 2023-07-30 13:15:01
Hello:
One operating system per physical drive is a clear approach.
+1
Fully agree with that.
Provided it is not a netbook/laptop with a single HDD but then that also has the possibility of a fast SD card.
Not sure that can be done for a windows system.
Best,
A.
#737 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-30 13:04:37
Hello:
... links2 for lightweight graphical browsing. It makes the internet look like 1995, which I find very soothing.
I'll have a look.
To test, I fired up the devuan_chimaera_4.0.3_i386_desktop-live.iso using a 4GB SD card and although Firefox behaved a bit better but still unusable.
Maybe I should try an older version and pin it or resize the swapfile.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#738 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-30 12:11:54
Hello:
... comes out Like this,
--- snip ---
... did the partitioning before the installation ...
Yes, I used to do it like that.
Every time I moved from one distribution to the next one in line.
I then settled on Devuan ~6 years ago.
I was very much used to /dev/sdx notation but eventually started using UUIDs.
... every time you format a partition it get a new UUID.
Indeed ...
And your fstab gets ... fstabbed.
Resulting in a warning about the system not finding a UUID, usually happens when you resize the /swap partition.
... used to have more separate system partitions ...
The benefit of separate partitions for /home, /var and /swap are important.
I also use primary partitions, easier/faster to work with than primary+extended if you don't need more than four partitions.
My box has 8.0GB RAM and the 4.0GB swap partition (in my case) practically gets no use as I have priority set to -2 (it is a small SSD).
Should I need more disk space I will see about a tmpfs for swap, have been puting it off for the longest time.
With respect to the reason for this thread, I think the installer is not working properly.
ie:
Once a specific drive is selected for the installation, the default behaviour should be that no partition on any other drive be used for anything.
More yet, the installer should warn that a partition outside the selected installation drive will be used before continuing with the process.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#739 Desktop and Multimedia » Browser for netbook running Devuan » 2023-07-29 19:14:39
- Altoid
- Replies: 14
Hello:
I have run Devuan Linux on an Asus 1000HE (1.66GHz Intel Atom N280 CPU + 2GB RAM) for a few years now.
These days, 5.10.0 with a backported kernel.
I run my coffee roasting software and serves as a access websites when I'm doing maintenance on my box and need to read up on something specific.
I also take with me when I am out of town. Limited but quite useful for a 14 year old netbook.
Now, the thing is that with the last two or three upgrades to firefox-esr, the browser has become incredibly slow/sluggish: practically unusable.
Is there another, lighter on resources (ie:'netbook friendly') that can be used with Devuan instead of Firefox-esr?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#740 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-29 14:00:41
Hello:
Apparently the partitioner picks up all swap partitions ...
Apparently so, would have to delve further into that.
But ...
Remember my first post: the installer wanted to format a partiton that did not exist.
Now, having 1) chosen to do an expert install, 2) selected specific drive to use and 3) having opted to partition it manually, I think that this should not be happening.
I did what you suggested and made sure that "don't use this partition" was used on every partition I could find that did not belong to the drive I selected for the installation and that worked.
As the other ie: /, /var and /home partitions were already established, the installer only formatted the /swap partition.
That said, why isn't every partition set up as "don't use this partition" by default?
Why does the installer pick up a /swap partition from a previously unselected drive?
I don't understand what is going on, maybe a glitch or a bug? Quite worrisome, at least to me.
In any case, I stopped the installation at 32% as it had been there for well over 15'.
I guess that installing on a 64GB USB2.0 will do that and as the damn things no longer come with the luxury of an activity LED, you really don't know if it is being written to or the install process went awry for whatever reason.
I'll try again this weekend.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#741 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 15:39:39
Hello fsr:
... seen the disk order change when booting with usb ...
Yes, I think that happens always.
But it does not matter here as the installation drive is easy to identify.
Unless I am not paying attention, the right drive will be formatted and receive the installation.
The problem (as I see it) is that the installer wants to muck around with other drives and in ways that don't make sense.
eg: formatting an inexistent partition. (?)
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#742 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 15:34:52
Hello:
How does the dialog before that one look?
Here it is:
The installation drive (USB stick) is correctly identified (VendorCo ProductCode), is the correct size (62.9GB) and is where it should be (SCSI9 /dev/sdd).
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#743 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 14:10:41
Hello:
Partition your disk manually ...
That is exactly what I am doing.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#744 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 11:52:06
Hello:
Having come to my senses, I went ahead and did it right way. 8^°
I burned the netinstall.iso to a 2.0Gb MicroSD card to install to the previously used 64Gb USB2.0 stick.
During the installation I chose to delete everything on the stick so it would start anew.
But I got the same behaviour from the installer:
eg: the installer informing me that ...
- it would format partitions in drives that don't belong to the drive previously selected for the installation.
ie: drive selected is /dev/sdc but it informs that it will format partition #3 in /dev/sdb- it would format an inexistent partition.
ie: drive /dev/sdf does not have a partition #3
Any idea as to what is happening?
Why would the installer want to muck around with a drive not selcted for installation?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#745 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 11:29:23
Hello fsr:
Live isos can boot the entire iso into RAM.
Yes.
Add "toram" or maybe "toram=filesystem.squashfs" to the boot command for a live-usb ...
... that way might allow you to install over the imaged usb, but then you have to get it right the first time ...
That's a good idea.
Have to get it right the first time around.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#746 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 10:03:31
Hello:
... you are trying to install it to the same pendrive ...
Exactly.
See previous posts.
Thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
#747 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 03:03:50
Hello:
Looks funny yes ...
So I thought.
... hard to know what is happening when you start partitioning the installer disk ...
... installing over itself is probably stretching it too far.
Indeed.
For some reason I had it in my head/was convinced that is was loading to RAM ... 8^°
I wonder where I got that from?
... really need the installed system to replace the installer on that USB ...
No, not that at all.
More ignorance (of how the install process works) than anything else.
... misunderstood your use case?
You are too kind.
Thanks (many) for your input.
Best,
A.
#748 Re: Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-28 01:59:42
Hello:
Have you done like that before?
Install Linux directly on a USB drive?
Most probably, long ago.
Really can't recall.
What did you expect to see?
More like what I did not expect to see.
eg: the installer informing me that ...
- it would format partitions in drives that don't belong to the drive previously selected for the installation.
ie: drive selected is /dev/sdc but it informs that it will format partition #3 in /dev/sdb
- it would format an inexistent partition.
ie: drive /dev/sdf does not have a partition #3
Obviously, this problem has an easy enough solution: take all drives in my box off-line.
But questions remain:
Why does the installer want to work on drives not selected for the installation?
Why does the installer see an inexistent partition in one of those drives?
I think that that type of thing should not happen.
Surely it can't be because the selected drive is a USB stick?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
#749 Installation » Strange netinstall.iso behaviour » 2023-07-27 22:46:00
- Altoid
- Replies: 22
Hello:
I downloaded the devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_netinstall.iso, checked it aginst its SHA256SUM and burned it to a 64Gb USB2.0 stick.
The purpose was to install it to that same USB stick.
When I got to writing the partitions I came across something strange, see for yourselves:
The USB stick I am using for the installation is SCSI8 (sdc).
SCSI6 (sdb) is my system drive and /dev/sdb3 is the swap file.
SCSI9 (sdf) is *not* partitioned and it contains a few important backup files.
Anyone knows what is going on?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
PD: sorry for the lousy image system but the one I had is no longer free.
#750 Re: Off-topic » Why still they don't solve that infamous systemd shutdown problem » 2023-07-19 02:22:37
Hello:
If systemd is "so good" why does it still exist?
Is that a question to ask here, at Dev1?
Seeing that there is no systemd in Devuan, you may want to consider asking that question here.
... the sole reason I choose devuan when I can.
If that is your sole reason for your choosing Devuan, I think you have a lot of reading up to do.
Best,
A.
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