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#1 2023-08-07 16:32:47
- pcalvert
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Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop
I was planning to install Refracta 11.2 on a Lenovo Ideapad S210 Touch "netbook"; however, after the live system fully loads the touchpad and keyboard do not work at all. A USB mouse that I plugged in works, so that's an acceptable temporary workaround for the nonfunctional touchpad, but I still need a working keyboard to use the installer.
I also tried SystemRescue (formerly SystemRescueCD). With SystemRescue, the touchpad is also nonfunctional, but the keyboard works just fine. With a USB mouse plugged in, I was able to prepare the HDD by deleting all of the Windows partitions.
Anyone have any ideas as to how I should proceed?
Last edited by pcalvert (2023-08-08 06:35:04)
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#2 2023-08-07 19:35:32
- Altoid
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Re: Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop
Hello:
pcalvert wrote:
... Refracta 11.2 on a Lenovo Ideapad 210 Touch ...
... touchpad and keyboard do not work ...
... With SystemRescue, the touchpad is also nonfunctional, but the keyboard works just fine.
Seeing that System Rescue actuallu finds the keyboard, look at what its logs have to say about it:
~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i keyboard
As to the touchpad, see what x11 has to say:
xinput list #if you don't have it you need to install it:
sudo apt install xinput
Please post your findings.
Best,
A.
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#3 2023-08-08 00:35:11
- pcalvert
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Re: Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop
Thank-you. Okay, here are the results:
#1:
# dmesg | grep -i keyboard
[ 13.000115] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input8
[ 22.030425] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: Keyboard backlight control not available#2:
# xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ ELAN Touchscreen id=11 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Sleep Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Lenovo EasyCamera : Lenovo Easy id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Ideapad extra buttons id=13 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]Offline
#4 2023-08-08 01:17:49
- Altoid
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Re: Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop
Hello:
pcalvert wrote:
Thank-you.
You're welcome.
pcalvert wrote:
#1:
# dmesg | grep -i keyboard [ 13.000115] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input8 [ 22.030425] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: Keyboard backlight control not available
Right, there is the working kb, as seen by SystemRescue.
pcalvert wrote:
#2:
# xinput list ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse id=10 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ ELAN Touchscreen id=11 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Sleep Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Lenovo EasyCamera : Lenovo Easy id=12 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Ideapad extra buttons id=13 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]
There is the PixArt USB Optical Mouse and what SystemRescue sees as a touch screen.
I assume that there's no such thing, just a touchpad.
Right?
I've had a quick look around and it seems that the Elan touchpads are a rather troublesome thingy for Linux.
Please do this:
sudo dmesg | grep -i elan to see *if* dmesg has something to say about the touchpad.
and
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i "input driver" to see what driver SystemRescue uses for the kb and post the results.
Best,
A.
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#5 2023-12-11 16:14:36
- pcalvert
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Re: Refracta problems on Ideapad laptop
I had to put this project on the back burner for awhile, but recently started working on it again. I went ahead and installed the latest Refracta (based on Daedalus) on this laptop. The keyboard seems to work just fine, but the touchpad doesn't work, and none of the solutions I have tried have worked. Investigating further, I have discovered that the touchpad isn't even being detected.
Another person with this problem has looked into the code and believes that many of these Lenovo laptops have a bug in their ACPI firmware. I suspect that he may be correct because I have noticed that, when using Refracta, the screen never sleeps. It is always on, even when I have not used the laptop for fifteen or twenty minutes (or more).
Since I basically reached a dead end on this (at least for now), I decided to see what Windows could tell me about this touchpad. Using a device information utility that I found in the directory for the touchpad driver I obtained this information:
Device Information
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KBC Mode: Legacy
TouchPad Port: 0
Device Type: Profile Device
Module Type: SmartPad
Port0 Status: Enable
Port0 Type: 0x0310
D100: 49 84 14
D101: 35 0F 00
D102: 48 17 0B
X,Y Max: 2436,1044
Fastest Report Rate: 77
Driver Information
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Driver Version: ELAN Touchpad 11.15.0.18_X64
ButtonEnable 0x00000001 (1)
Left_Button_Func 0x00000000 (0)
Middle_Button_Func 0x00000002 (2)
Right_Button_Func 0x00000001 (1)
Tap_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Tap_T1_Time 0x000000C8 (200)
Tap1_Func 0x00000000 (0)
Tap2_ShowItem 0x00000001 (1)
Tap2_Func 0x00000001 (1)
Tap3_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Tap3_Func 0x00000007 (7)
Two_V_Scroll_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Two_H_Scroll_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Two_H_Scroll_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Two_Auto_Scroll_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Two_Auto_Scroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Two_Scroll_Speed 0x00000002 (2)
Zoom_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Zoom_STV 0x00000002 (2)
Rotation_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Rotation_Circular_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Rotation_Circular_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Drag_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Drag_Radio 0x00000002 (2)
Drag_Radio2_Slider 0x00000004 (4)
Swipe_Page_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_Page_Kind 0x00000002 (2)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Func 0x00000018 (24)
ThreeFingerMove_Up_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Func 0x00000019 (25)
ThreeFingerMove_Down_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Func 0x00000009 (9)
ThreeFingerMove_Left_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Func 0x00000008 (8)
ThreeFingerMove_Right_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
Palm_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Palm_Slider 0x00000004 (4)
STV_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
STV_Silder 0x00000005 (5)
SM_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SM_Radio 0x00000000 (0)
SM_Radio2_Slider 0x00000002 (2)
SM_Up_Range 0x000000E0 (224)
SM_Down_Range 0x000000B0 (176)
SM_Left_Range 0x000000A0 (160)
SM_Right_Range 0x000000A0 (160)
SM_Triger_Counter 0x00000000 (0)
SL_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SL_Key 0x00000000 (0)
Edge_V_Scroll_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Edge_H_Scroll_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Edge_Auto_Scroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Edge_V_Scroll_Area 0x00000002 (2)
Edge_V_Scroll_Area 0x00000002 (2)
Edge_Scroll_Speed 0x00000002 (2)
Circular_Scroll_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Circular_Scroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Mag_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Mag_Kind 0x00000002 (2)
DoubleTapToOnOffDevice_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
DoubleTapToOnOffDevice_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Momentum_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Momentum_Slider 0x00000005 (5)
Momentum_Bounce_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Up_Range 0x000000C8 (200)
SmartArea_Down_Range 0x00000019 (25)
SmartArea_Left_Range 0x00000190 (400)
SmartArea_Right_Range 0x00000190 (400)
FourFingerMove_Up_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Up_Func 0x00000020 (32)
FourFingerMove_Down_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Down_Func 0x00000013 (19)
FourFingerMove_Left_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Left_Func 0x00000803 (2051)
FourFingerMove_Right_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
FourFingerMove_Right_Func 0x00000803 (2051)
EGS_InertialScroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
EGS_ContinueScroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
EGS_CornerArea_Reject_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SC_InertialScroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SC_ContinueScroll_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Palm_Always_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
EdgeZoom_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Edge_1F_SwipePage_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Edge_2F_SwipePage_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Tap3_Press_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Cover_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Cover_Func 0x00000013 (19)
SC_Free_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Corner_Tap_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Corner_Tap_BL_Func 0x0000000F (15)
Corner_Tap_BL_Width 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BL_Height 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BR_Func 0x00000006 (6)
Corner_Tap_BR_Width 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_BR_Height 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TL_Func 0x00000013 (19)
Corner_Tap_TL_Width 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TL_Height 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TR_Func 0x00000005 (5)
Corner_Tap_TR_Width 0x0000015E (350)
Corner_Tap_TR_Height 0x0000015E (350)
TwoFinger_Double_Tap_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
TwoFinger_Double_Tap_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Two_Finger_Click_Func 0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Three_Finger_Click_Func 0x00000007 (7)
ClickPad_LeftCorner_Click_Func 0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_RightCorner_Click_Func 0x00000001 (1)
DualMode_TP_Mode 0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_AllArea 0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Tap 0x000003E8 (1000)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Move 0x000003E8 (1000)
DisableWhenType_DelayTime_Gesture 0x000003E8 (1000)
DynamicPalmTap_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
DynamicPalmTap_RatioX 0x00000008 (8)
DynamicPalmTap_RatioY 0x00000008 (8)
Win8EdgeSwipeLeft_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeRight_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeTop_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipeBottom_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Grab_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Tap2_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Drag_Delay_Time_Adjust_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Drag_Delay_Time_Adjust_Value 0x000001F4 (500)
EGS_Reverse_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SC_Reverse_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Two_Finger_Click_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Three_Finger_Click_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_LeftCorner_Click_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_RightCorner_Click_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
ClickPad_Four_Finger_Click_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Scroll_2F_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Scroll_Edge_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_3F_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Swipe_4F_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
ClickPad_Four_Finger_Click_Func 0x00000007 (7)
Swipe_4F_Enable_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
SmartDetect_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
SmartDetect_Up_Range 0x00000043 (67)
SmartDetect_Down_Range 0x00000043 (67)
SmartDetect_Left_Range 0x00000080 (128)
SmartDetect_Right_Range 0x00000080 (128)
Tap_Activate_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Tap1_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
Tap3_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Gesture_Effect_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Return_Middle_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Return_End_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_To_Down_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Up_To_Down_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Left_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Top_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Right_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Advance_Bottom_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
DWT_Unit 0x00000001 (1)
DWT_Left_Range 0x000007D0 (2000)
DWT_Right_Range 0x000007D0 (2000)
DWT_Top_Range 0x000004E2 (1250)
DWT_Bottom_Range 0x00000000 (0)
DWT_AZone_Touch_Then_Free 0x00000001 (1)
Scroll_2F_Enable_ShowItem 0x00000001 (1)
Two_V_Scroll_ShowItem 0x00000000 (0)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Edge_Range 0x0000005A (90)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Triger_Radius 0x00000050 (80)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Triger_Angle 0x00000032 (50)
Win8_Edge_Swipe_Mode 0x00000000 (0)
FreeTyping_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
FreeTyping_Mode 0x00000258 (600)
SmartArea_Restrict_Move 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_Restrict_Tap 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_IdleTime 0x00000003 (3)
SmartArea_IdleTime_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
SC_Speed_Has_8_Level 0x00000000 (0)
EGS_Speed_Has_8_Level 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_IdleTime_Unit 0x000003E8 (1000)
MultiFingerGesture_Enable 0x00000001 (1)
SmartArea_Unit 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea_BreakTime 0x00000000 (0)
Win8EdgeSwipe_CharmSelect_Enable 0x00000000 (0)
Disable_When_Type_By_AP_Time 0x00000000 (0)
Driver Status Information
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TapEnable 0x00000001 (1)
MKValueEnable 0x00000001 (1)
MKValueMoveEnable 0x00000001 (1)
DisableWhenType_Tap 0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_Move 0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenType_Gesture 0x00000000 (0)
DisableWhenUSBMouse 0x00000000 (0)
ELANTouchPadPort 0x00000000 (0)
ELANPointStickPort 0x00000004 (4)
PreInputButtons_LB 0x00000000 (0)
PreInputButtons_MB 0x00000000 (0)
PreInputButtons_RB 0x00000000 (0)
MasterDeviceMode 0x00000004 (4)
PowerChangeETDDisable 0x00000000 (0)
OneTimeTap 0x00000000 (0)
Dragflag 0x00000000 (0)
DragLockFlag 0x00000000 (0)
TapOutRange 0x00000000 (0)
TapT1TimeTimerEnable 0x00000001 (1)
TapT1TimeFlag 0x00000000 (0)
NowGesture 0x00000000 (0)
SM_Not_In_Area 0x00000000 (0)
SL_Key_Down 0x00000000 (0)
EdgeScroll_Triger 0x00000000 (0)
EdgeScroll_OutArea 0x00000000 (0)
ThreeFingerMove_Pre_Status 0x00000000 (0)
TrayIcon_NowLevel 0x00000000 (0)
SwipePage_Pre_Status 0x00000000 (0)
CanWriteCommand 0x00000001 (1)
ToolMode 0x00000000 (0)
ToolMode_Intercept 0x00000000 (0)
TouchPadUIDisplay_Not_Use_INF 0x00000000 (0)
FingerQuadrant 0x00000000 (0)
AP_TWO_FINGER_SCROLL 0x00000001 (1)
AP_ZOOM 0x00000001 (1)
AP_ROTATE 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ZOOM_ONE_TIME 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ROTATE_FREE 0x00000000 (0)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_V_POWER 0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_V_UNIT 0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_H_POWER 0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLLOBJECT_H_UNIT 0x00000010 (16)
AP_SCROLL_V_TO_APIX 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_SCROLL 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_ZOOM 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ENABLE_TOUCHINJECTION_ROTATE 0x00000000 (0)
AutoScrollFunctionDisable 0x00000000 (0)
Tap_STV_OK 0x00000000 (0)
OpMode 0x00000000 (0)
CanDoGesture 0x00000000 (0)
PreGesture 0x00000000 (0)
EnableQueryMultiplexing 0x00000000 (0)
ScreenOrientation 0x00000000 (0)
bDisableTouchpadByLidClose 0x00000000 (0)
AtLoginScreenStatus 0x00000000 (0)
LidSwitchStateStatus 0x00000001 (1)
AP_SCROLL_H_TO_KERNEL 0x00000000 (0)
DiscardPacket 0x00000000 (0)
SupportCRCCheck 0x00000000 (0)
MultiFinger_Palm_Support 0x00000000 (0)
SMBus_Support_Self_dv 0x00000000 (0)
SMBus_Support_PS2_MultiPalm 0x00000000 (0)
AP_ZOOM_FREE 0x00000000 (0)
bIsPowerNoiseSolutionVerG 0x00000000 (0)
LED_Support 0x00000000 (0)
FiveButtonDualMode 0x00000000 (0)
SupportSmartPalm 0x00000000 (0)
PacketMouseDataLength 0x000002A0 (672)
PacketNumber 0x0002877B (165755)
bMergeCheckEnable 0x00000000 (0)
bMergeOccurs 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea.RestrictMove 0x00000000 (0)
MomentumFunctionStart 0x00000000 (0)
SmartArea.RestrictTap 0x00000000 (0)
AutoScrollEnable 0x00000000 (0)
PSTWorkAndDisableTouchPadEnable 0x00000000 (0)
PSTWorkAndDisableTouchPad 0x00000000 (0)
AllocateWorkItemFailCount 0x00000000 (0)
Mice and other pointing devices information
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Service: i8042prt
UpperFilter: ETD
Hardware ID: ACPI\VEN_ETD&DEV_061A
Hardware ID: ACPI\ETD061A
Hardware ID: *ETD061A
Compatible ID: *PNP0F13
Service: mouhid
UpperFilter: mouhid
Hardware ID: HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F&REV_0100
Hardware ID: HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F
Hardware ID: HID\VID_0461&UP:0001_U:0002
Hardware ID: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_MOUSE
Hardware ID: HID_DEVICE_UP:0001_U:0002
Hardware ID: HID_DEVICE
USB Mouse HID Information
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Mouse HID: HID\VID_0461&PID_4D0F\7&249ca22b&0&0000Since the problem appears to be an ACPI firmware bug, that information may not be very helpful, but maybe some clever person has found a workaround.
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