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-- got a ceres to work - BUT only on the DE tools
from the
cd installer of Jessie, upgraded to ascii, removed rsyslog with syslog-ng
reboot - purged /autoremove 3.16 image
upgraded to ceres (modified sources.list)
reboot - working okay - lots of system type folders on desktop
purged /autoremove 4.9 image
reboot - still working - loaded firefox-esr (it is missing the scroll marker on the
vertical scroll bar) and now doing this post
edit -- the default purpy theme was the issue- changed to Appearance/ xfce-flat
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will try a chroot to one of the other desktops to see if mouse/kybd are lost
do you suppose that the terminal/console screen is after X shuts down
[and has modified the fonts/dpi? for the system]
OR is it a terminal emulater while inside of X??
gotta go to bed --still broken
tried to apt-get remove x-stuff and mate-desktop
changed sources.list to ascii and then reload x-stuff and mate-desktop
still broken in my chroot = those 'missing' files didn't help
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@fungus -- did you see this
"invoke-rc.d could not determine runlevel" ???? is it important???
okaky - got a ceres setup -created a chroot for the 'mate' desktop -used lightdm
it hangs with a terminal window AND unplugging/plugging keyboard/mouse NO HELP
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I inadvertently installed lightdm in the host(ceres) and sjome X stuff for the chroot
did a startx and got locked up - had to pwr cycle.
rebooted - removed lightdm -still locks up?? iirc
rebooted - removed the /lib/modules/4.9 series of directories - no lockkup on 'startx'
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(in chroot-mate)tried removing the /lib/modules/4.9 stuff NO HELP
reboot - removed lightdm --- so now I "startx mate" and sort-of good news
no lockkup but I am dropped to my console !!!
E: /usr/bin/xterm: no absolute path found for shell: mate
xinit: connctin to X server lost
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I did notice there were several files missing in the /etc/X11/Xsession.d folder
as compared to a jessie-mate setup!! will list them shortly
thanks for the feedback - I am on my way to ceres !!
@fungus - I did an ascii and made a partition for ceres.
Do you just do a basic Jessie install - apt-get dist-upgrade to ascii [changing sources.list!]
{{rsyslog replacement in there also}}
then change the sources.list again for ceres , then dist-upgrade again ??
@gnath - did you backport 'rsyslog' or replace it ?? there are two suggested replacements - I did one of them
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AFAIK - there aren't really any 'updates' published for ASCII- they are still working on the alpha version.
You might take the DSA info (not familiar with it) and do a manual apt-get on the specific packages.
[all part of testing a new distro - please report any findings or updates] the devs might incorporate
some of the changes as needed for the ascii-alpha
hopefully helpful
@brday -- just in case -- once you add the above mentioned repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list
do a [sudo ] apt-get update then do the [sudo] apt-get install midori
apt or apt-get will both work - [sudo] means whichever option you use from @fungus
then as per @golinux - remove the 'backports' from the sources.list [or just '#' it out ]
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thanks golinux for the 'backports' info
What does the /etc/apt/sources.list show -- can you list it for us?
here is a link with several possibilities -- I use a BeagleBone Black so I can't help - no wifi - different processor
https://forum.armbian.com/index.php?/to … -networks/
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it's going to be a trial and error routine !!
Ring seems to be real new version of SFLphone and as such hasn't
been put into the Debian Jessie packages (per my apt-get query)
You might find it in a 'testing' version of some sort.
Is xfce4-volumed updated to a devuan package or is it a debian package?
I just recently read on one of my Linux newsletters of a open-source Skype replacemtn.
It escapes me as to what it is called but the letter made it sound very recent.
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If Debian doesn't have it packaged , afaik - you would have to do a manual process for installing
or even compiling - I'm no help there!!
GZ
Welcome to Devuan !! I am having fun also! building for Beaglebone Black and doing some different Devuan installs -
32bit/64bit different desktops
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this link https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=715 should shed some light on many of your questions.
I do know they are working on the next release - ASCII - its named after a star.
rsyslog is an issue - but there are two other loggers that work --(i did the something-ng one without an issue)
and there is another workaround mentioned.
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I think ASCII will be a little slower coming - due to the complete removal of systemd stuff (dbus ? udev?)
- some of that I believe is still in the Jessie:: I have upgraded to ASCII per a guide on dev1galaxy -
but I am not a heavy user - Internet search\youtube Internet email ; some mp3/cd audio; a
little printing and libre-office writer.
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HTH and have some more fun!
Well, thanks for the tip @golinux.
I did get on the #devuan-arm finally and left a note and some info for parazyd.
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To others -- my process is wrong at this time !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I need to run 'git' and configure it with my credentials
I need to 'git' the arm-sdk folder - AFAIK
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another user tried to do their process and it failed for the BBB (and rPi3)
I picked up some clues/hints from their log information!
'and will incorporate it.
Have a good Day
Trying to use the libdevuansdk and the arm-sdk to create a BeagleBone Black image
*** I ran this on a 32bit Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 - lxde
(I did find some files in the auto.mirror.devuan website that may prove usefull)
I don't get any action out of libdevuansdk other than a "0.5 version" of libdevuansdk displayed
? #1 - do I need to use git to download the sdk - I used the .tz files and manually placed them
? #2 - where does libdevuansdk go in relation to the arm-sdk
I know you devs are busy with ascii - but there are maybe 3 or 4 of us that would like devuan on BBB
Below is my procedures that I followed. - could you take a quick look at it?? its copied from leafpad
*** I ran this on a 32bit Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 - lxde
** * * * * * * * * * * PREPARATIONS * * * * * * * * *
install the dependencies as mentioned in the sdk(s) Readme.md
determine/create an /arm-sdk folder (I used ~/arm-bbb - so I may type that by mistake)
*** I used these sources for the arm-sdk --> https://github.com/dyne/arm-sdk/tree/next
*** " " " libdevuansdk --> https://github.com/dyne/libdevuansdk/next
*** get zuper for zsh --> https://github.com/dyne/zuper
*** ---- /next refers to 4.9 for the bbb
*** I extracted the .tz files -- (not git clone(d))
put the zuper & zuper.init in /arm-sdk/lib/zuper/
I put libdevuansdk folder in /arm-sdk folder
***BUT /arm-sdk/init.sh had a comment --> #cd lib/libdevuansdk !!!???
set up the tool chain -edit this file, /arm-sdk/init.sh for your toolchain --[armhf]
[BTW -- gcc gets installed in /arm-sdk]
*** I ran this on a 32bit Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 and had to delete the "lib32z1"
*** from the /arm-sdk/readme.md file as it wasn't in the devuan repositories !!!???
*** maybe need to be loaded from the debian repository ???
setup the defaults in /libdevuansdk/config file
I changed to us.mirror vice the auto.mirror (faster ?)
not sure if needed here: #grz added arch --> arch="armhf"
[BTW -no X stuff] modified some of the ???_packages to my taste/needs/wants
verify the /libdevuansdk/zlib files have your specifics - -
cache::removed all Architectures: except armhf
helpers:: approx line333 changed Architectures: from all to 'armhf'
sysconf:: I changed the name servers from the google ones line 109 ~
sysconf:: changed the locales info from C to
export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
and thenn back to the original -- still no action
vm:: changed from _64 to _32 at line 115 ~
VBoxManage createvm --name "$vmname" --ostype Debian_32 --register || zerr
** * * * * * * * * * LIGHTS * CAMERA * ACTION ***** * * * * * * * * *
so now - lets do
zsh
source zuper {/arm-sdk/lib/zuper}[source is a linux command]
source zuper.init
cd to the /arm-sdk
source the init.sh [sets up the gcc toolchain]
***tried to run the arm-sdk/sdk file but it reported no distro - never asked for one
***I assume that libdevuansdk needs to be run first to generate the distro - 'devuan'
source libdevuansdk
----wait--wait---
source sdk [in the /arm-sdk folder]
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looks like I have gpg 1.4 so need to payattention to parazyd's email
for depends
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@golinux you said in #2
https://devuan.org/os/development-kit is an obsolete page. How did you find it?
- that is true but still available by direct url
it also happens to match this https://devuan.org/os/development which is reached by clicking on the "Developement" tab at the top
of the webpage.
then you say:
Please go to https://devuan.org/os/distro-kit for the most recent information. There you'll find this link to the current sdk info:
which is true ---BUT that link is not available on the /devuan.org/ main page or the //devuan.org/os page
There is a link on the https://devuan.org/os/development page - - - reached by the 'Developement' tab at the top
so the url is a little confusing - you don't find it in the contents of the 'os' page
semantics ?? I don't know - I would have thought that each tab at the top would have its own folder /os /development /community
but then - I don't really have my own webpage - apart from wix and weebly !!!!!
GaryZ
I just go down the 'last post' column and click !!!
roughly translated:
I light up a beacon and overcome a shadow in the bay
I am thinking of contributing to translation, but because of extraordinary circumstances and temporary inability to commit and consistent, I postpone it.
BTW - I too lose attention 'inability to commit and consistent, I postpone it.' committing is hard -- I have electronic pieces I have picked up for a 'possible' project and won't use them in another project
- just in case i do the original idea!!
I too noticed that Devuan makes more fan noise, ASCII more so; than say antiX, or Q4OS.
I run an older Compaq 3ghz Presario SR2172NX, ATI Radeon Xpression 1100.
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Usually on youtube videos - I run them in 144p quality to keep the noise down.
FYI - gz
PS. I am on antiX right now - will throw in some Conky-type info
cpu 12-15% ram 357M of 2.93G
will update with Devuan in a bit.
- - - - - updated from Devuan64 Jessie
NOTE antiX was a 32bit install on a this dualcore system - icewm DE
devuan64 is running dual core per the (devuan) Mate desktop
both CPU are in the 15% range after a minute or so -- same
RAM is higher at approx 560M -- but its a different desktop
THIS Mate desktop seems to run quieter than my usual Xfce/devuan
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hmmm!
Well my face is red.
Per the Trinity website -- They QT3, not planning on QT4 or 5.
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Q4os took the Trinity package, and seemed to work out some of the issues
(for their base Linux).
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whatever
with my limited knowledge of all systemd:
there was 'dbus' that showed up in the install window
an internet comment suggested that they use GTK+3 , and some systemd
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I assume since it only works on Jessie, that ASCII has something in it that conflicts.
??Possibly the lack of rsyslog??
HTH
@FOSSuser - I too use the antiX distro - long time, in fact yesterday I was looking for one of their wallpapers
from maybe '09/'10 - it was the sepia toned , foggy mountain and water.
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Still running Devuan through its paces - it has all the apps (so far) that I use - well HP printer hasn't been
tackled yet.
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Did try Q4OS for about 8 months - it got me wanting to test (and learn coding/packaging) Linux so
here I am at DEvuan!! Linux is not the Linux of my more youth/simple days!!!!
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Regards - gz
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OH and welcome aboard Sector11 , have fun with your freedom!
Don't shoot me !
I put TDE (Trinity DE) on top of my DevJessie. Q4OS made their TDE
available for Devuan Jessie - it won't work on ASCII or ceres.
[I thnk they check the /etc/apt/sources.list; based on an attempt to
put it on my ASCII version]
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It removed 'makedev' and 'rtkit' right up front. It seemed to 'GET'
about 169 packages (via apt-get) from both DevJessie & Q4OS repositories
. I saw two 'grub-style' probes of my harddrives - but it never
effected by bootloader. Two errors (anticipated by a note from Q4OS
website) were from 'update-rd.d' --> "start & stop actions no longer
supported, will fallback to defaults";[this occured about 18 minutes
into the update. #2 error was at the end:: "systemctl: & timedatectl:
not found"
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after reboot, the tdm took my login, had my normal !! XFCE !! splash
screen and desktop. The menus are in the Trinity theme , but the few
applications I started are in the Devuan Xfce style (of rounded corners)
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NOTE - there are several prompts to answer:
start + 8 mins = select your login mgr -- tdm or slim
start + 19 mins = prompt for installing more packages
start + 20 mins = prompt for additional configuration
start + 22 mins FINISH & reboot
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intel 64bit @ 3Ghz w/ 3G ram; one SATA drive (boot) & one IDE (testing)
I installed TDE on the testing drive
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Have fun - not sure if they can get it systemd free for ASCII
I'm not quite ready for a pure cli
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the eject seems to fix the issue - [ logged in as 'root']
I ran it once. -a) it ejected the music cd, b)I inserted a new iso cd,
c)let the frontpanel light quit flashing and d) hit the eject button and - e) Voila!
It's amazing what some reboots and apt-get autoremove will do!!
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I have loaded sudo and put myself in the group
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bash/nano issue - works now - not sure why - my $PATH looks good- now
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VLC and audio are working - well CD audio -youtube in firefox-esr
[may have been the apt-get autoremove function
{one of the removed files was ' vlc-nox' !?}
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CD front-panel eject isn't working still --
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Crunched text and no button outlines: That sounds like a couple of the new gtk3 features.
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****fixed itself along the way !!
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For the power buttons, make sure you have installed policykit-1 consolekit libpam-ck-connector and upower. (Hope I didn't forget any). If that doesn't work, search the forum for any of those package names and you'll find some discussion.
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haven't checked them out - they are available , will report back in a bit (I don't usually use the suspend/hibernate function..
I turn my system on / off only once a day - less thermal stress , I figure )
Thanks for the suggestions @fsmithred
OT; no-X distro ?? wayland or just CLI ????