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created a refractasnapshot dummy-logind instead of seatd
offline ctrl_alt_bksp instant
online ctrl_alt_bksp not instant
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(II) [libseat/backend/seatd.c:645] Stopped embedded seatd
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xinit: X server slow to shut down, sending KILL signal
waiting for server to die
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SHADY
I'm running Daedalus, barebones, X, startx, low-fat window manager, file manager, editor, full-fat browser.
If you don't do apt-get --no-install-recommends install, you get;
elogind libelogind-compat libelogind0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome pkexec polkitd polkitd-data
You can force purge all that and install libsystemd0 and your system is not broke.
My updates about this last week, proposed-updates are now coming down the pipe, for me was about a dozen programs, mainly X I think.
Something has created a serious exploit, maybe dummy-logind circumvents. Maybe.
I am very greatful to see some interest in this post.
I suppose we can all agree that Wayland is a work in progress therefore intrinsically routine engineering problematic vulnerable etc.
Personally I am staying with X Window System, as many will, for a myriad of reasons, heck, XFree86 still superlative important for many.
I don't know what the anti-action term for hairy shirt is, I'd rather be hairy than a Wayland wanker!
Did you know that wanker is the most commonly used word in the Greek language malaka.
I can use the 'find,' program, and also 'locate.'
xserver-xorg-core, two dependencies, libwayland-client0 & libwayland-server0
chromium & firefox, libwayland-cursor0 & libwaylandegl1
I'm no doctor or professor or engineer, perhaps an advanced amateur, I'm inclined to think these wayland libraries are 'stable'.
Which leaves seatd.
xserver-xorg-core depends on libseat1.
seatd can be replaced with dummy-logind.
Dumping seatd and doing dummy-logind is what I am playing around with at the moment, building refractasnapshot in console, for running in X.
My suspicion is that the State/Corporation usual suspects, presently these days are thieving through hacking seatd, although this holy shit situation came about only this last few days as the proposed-updates came down the pipe.
I'm barebones X, no Synaptics no thankyou, eudev & libinput, xserver-xorg-legacy to get Xwrapper.config,
to fuck off all this login crime.
Please do not give me your words of wisdom that Xwrapper.config is shit.
Peace be with us.
First impressions, it appears to be something to do with seatd and or wayland.
Why does mouse driven logout take forever.
Why does ctrl_alt_bksp not action immediately.
Supposedly if you spin a Windows CD-ROM backwards you hear satanic messages,
never mind that, if you spin it forwards it installs Windows.
very interesting LinuxMan, I forgot about that, amongst other things.
This is a crux of Linux, all these phenominal engineers and doctors who create it, it works.
keep it simple stupid
I hope golinux puts as much energy as possible into the forum these days, as golinux is quite attentive, which is warming.
wayland doesn't work nvidia is a stupid statement
f9 & f10 the bios for a start,
if the hardware is bleeding edge, amongst other ideas, the task is to identify i.e., what firmware you need.
you could spin the latest MX Linux which is just out and fullfat firmware.
more /var/log/dmesg or syslog or whatever
Personally, I wouldn't even think about installing an OS on a storage device that is not blank.
Use fdisk & delete.
cat /sys/block/hdX|sdX/size
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whatever bs=whatcatsaid
dd if=/dev/zero /of=/dev/whatever bs=whatcatsaid
When you install perhaps you will be offered gpt
grub is the greatest colossal joke, an unprecedented security catastrophe, and fundamentally a supremely pure definition of a piece of shit.
continue without bootloader, boot with refindflashdrive dot zip, or grub4dos, and install refind if you fancy.
If you're not EFI, use Limine, and check wizard Barry Kauler at easyos for intel.
Ola!
I will say some ideas, try to help.
I think refractasnapshot never fails.
I hope you are working in console, but maybe that is not necessary.
I think that it is absolutely necessary to restrict the cpu power, to protect your hard drive/ssd from being written to, too fast.
apt-get --no-install-recommends cpufrequtils
cpufreq-set -u 800000
Now run refractasnapshot from root.
This will create a snapshot in /home/username
my username is user
Maybe you are having problems not in root.
A simple way to go into root, and not worry, is turn off the power to your wifi router.
Persevere.
Persevere with this forum.
Refracta is the best, no competition.
You best have zstd installed.
Tue 15 Aug 2023, just coming up to 2 PM UTC.
The homepage has gone Daedalus 5.0 current stable release.
I like the subtle changes in colours very much indeed.
Will be splendid to see Devuan top of the page on Distrowatch.
'Sunshine on a rainy day,' here in Ungreat Britain.
What's new it says,
Rootless startx uses libseat1
is that just for a Display Manager,
in the past I found a quite small 'script,' which did auto login and startx without a Display Manager.
Hello vrgovinda,
patience be with us!
the archlinux sound documents are very excellent, the main two documents.
I am actually trying to 'configure' my new mini-pc (with it's spurious codec,) at the moment, so my input here is actually in practice say.
I don't think I am going to get sound line-out AND HDMI, I think I may have to settle for one or the other, we will see.
The last twenty-five years alsamixer has been good to me, pulseaudio is new to me.
I have apt-get --no-install-recommends install pavucontrol pulseaudio which pulls in all the required packages.
In addition I have made a folder _pa and in that folder I have downloaded the two packages pavucontrol and pulseaudio.
When I want to certainly work on alsa I, dpkg -P pavucontrol pulseaudio.
And when I want to work on pulseaudio I, dpkg -i -R _pa.
So I can keep trying, and don't have to be online.
When I do use pulseaudio I'm always in user not root, and I always pulseaudio --start | --kill
I always run alsamixer as it changes when I install/uninstall pulseaudio.
The sound file I work with is FILE.WAV, aplay in alsa plays WAV file.
vrgovinda, please keep trying with all those too many settings in alsamixer.
All this quasi pain is worth it to advance learning howto configure sound. I think!
Andrew.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Advanc … leshooting
Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
On Intel Cannon Lake (eg. HP ZBook 15 G6), the integrated sound chipset requires ALSA firmware, and the following kernel module parameters are required:
options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-amic enable=yes
That should enable both sound and microphone.
Anybody that has been working hard for time using Linux, knows that newer hardware needs newer software.
A Chinese Doctor, and probably the best nanotechnology doctor on the planet, once said to me hardware software same thing.
The Chinese software is out of sight and the American aeroplane is redundant obsolete, expensive, taxes.
My new mini-pc has got a 'spurious' sound codec, thanks Intel, won't work in Chimaera, and the newer firmware in Debian testing don't work either.
So install Daedalus for a great myriad of reasons.
Or make a wicker chair and then unweave the thing.
Useful,
https://thesofproject.github.io/latest/ … ction.html
Every time I create a change I run alsamixer --view all and it will be different
On my BMAX B1 Plus mini-pc which has a pig codec es8336, I am trying to get sound line-out and HDMI.
My next step is to install pavucontrol & pulseaudio, and see what I am offered,
then /etc/modprobe.d/snd.conf options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=3
and see what I am offered.
dsp_driver=1 & dsp_driver=2 terminally breaks sound.
It's amazing how computers are like cars in many ways, you look at them under a 40X microscope and they're full of crap & flux and that, like under the bonnet (hood,) another, 'chipset' change, reminds me of changing a wheel bearing and in the end I did it in the car parts car park because there was like five variants.
And here I am, twenty-five years later, clean install Windows 98SE and what's the first thing to do, see if the piece of shit sound is working.
And we've had HDMI for like twenty years plug and play and we pay hard earned money for this shit.
I guess without SOF we'd certainly be up shit creek without a paddle.
IMO options snd-hda-intel model=whatever is questionable pissing in the wind.
This last couple of years my observation is that the Chiefs at Devuan have to modify|update deb.devuan.org all the time, and half the time it does not work, I became quite cheesed off about this, so I picked a mirror practical to my locale and it very very rarely fails.
Sorry.
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus-security main
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus-updates main
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus main
What I do, maybe useful.
Twenty-five years of using computers, I do not trust Government Corporation thieving my privacy.
I don't use Windows online.
I only do X online in a live distro.
Knoppix, SysRescCd, Damn Small Linux, TinyCoreLinux, Sidux|Aptosid, Puppy, EasyOS, etc.
Of course now I do a bespoke not kitchen sink fsmithred snapshot, marvellous!
Display Managers have their uses but generally are problematic.
apt-get --no-install-recommends prevents headaches.
How I startx without fail.
I do a very frowned upon 'hairy shirt' technique in my always pristine boot=live toram.
apt-get install xserver-xorg-legacy
/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=anybody
needs_root_rights=yes
xinit is happy and perhaps a Display Manager also.
Bring on the flames!
Also xserver-xorg-input-evdev (terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp) xserver-xorg-input-libinput (Synaptics is shady.)
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture was|is a far-sighted and responsible piece of work.
There's too many bloody sound modules running, thanks to the western lands binary blob wankers, stifling evolution, (screwing with nature!) the coming decades, especially China and India, will stanley knife that holding back open-source.
The kernel is a tiny kernel, wrapped up in a whopping pile of shit, pathetic.
Hello vrgovinda, I am surmising your name is an epithet of Vishnu ?
Installed, alsa-topology-conf alsa-ucm-conf alsa-utils, maybe I only need alsa-utils.
Run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset
I have a ASRock mini-itx (Intel J3355 (2016.)) I use HDMI monitor with built-in speakers.
A Asus E203N laptop (Intel N3350 (2016.))
A BMAX B1 Plus mini-pc (Intel N3350 (2016.)) I use HDMI monitor with built-in speakers.
The laptop speakers and headphone socket works out of the box in Chimaera and Daedalus.
The mini-pc which 'appears' to be the 'same' hardware as the laptop, is not, /var/log/dmesg shows me that I need two ES8336 firmwares from firmware-sof-signed for sound to work. I am now on Daedalus, does it work on Chimaera, I don't know. It works on Daedalus. Note: a newer firmware from Debian testing fails! clearly seen in dmesg.
The mini-itx works out of the box, line-out, and HDMI, Daedalus.
In alsamixer, if S/PDIF is muted, HDMI - no sound.
Also, maybe, attention to PCM.
I have a music file (FILE.WAV,) which I can play in console with aplay from alsa-utils, -d 3, plays for three seconds.
mini-itx/mini-pc,
line out/headphone|speaker
aplay -D plughw:0,0 -d 3 FILE.WAV
HDMI,
aplay -D plughw:0,3 -d 3 FILE.WAV
So, for HDMI, I have /etc/asound.conf
defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 3
defaults.ctl.card 0
What I have learned,
alsamixer --view all,
attempt to hear some sound, levels, mutes, etc.
If I install pavucontrol pulseaudio (which I can always uninstall,) I can configure my mini-itx line-out AND HDMI sumultaneously (I havn't figured out how to do this in console alsa yet,) and as long as I do not reset alsa, that config remains.
Useful,
https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardw … -hda-intel
https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardw … _slackware
https://bkhome.org/news/201912/sound-fi … -lake.html
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Images are 2048x1536.
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If the Windows GUI defrag is broken/missing, defrag in Windows Command Prompt.
In theory, Windows defrag tools will not hurt an SSD.
The above images show Devuan Daedalus RC8 netinstall on a Asus E203N laptop, common Intel N3350, SSD 64GB mmcblk0 surface mount.
We need to big up Devuan Live works like a charm out of the box.
We need to have pavucontrol to git those crappy speakers on my HDMI monitor to work, HDMI has been in production for 20 years. I don't need a Bang & Olufsen sound system, I'm on the tube listening to a doctor discussing leukemia.
I'm not run me down fsmithred (amongst others,) who obviously work as hard as Muhammad Ali.
What else do we need, I don't mean some email client palaver.
Discuss.
Born 1967 and missed computer studies by one year, had to learn digital photography, 1998 got a 233MHz Toshiba laptop, partitioned with SystemRescueCd and put Red Hat 6 on it, Fedora came, I went to Debian. Kitchen sink Knoppix was in my toolkit, also Robert Shingledecker is a hero, and Puppy Linux to easyos. cdc-acm USB GPRS was my first mountain to learn, then bluetooth GPRS.
Sometimes on the news you can see in a warzone some state sponsored whackos blowing the front off a hotel, git them journalists.
Alas I got bored of loonies trying to chop my head off.
A decade ago was DSLR and netbook and I could GPRS bluetooth a 3G phone on the fly in Sidux/Aptosid.
When that kit got robbed I got an armoured compact (camera,) and my first Android, Huawei, QWERTY.
jackpal terminal console, Xavier Gouchet Ted text processor, ffmpeg4android, Pixlr (2.6) Stay Alive! (display,) CryptIt blowfish cipher.
Moving too fast or dug in too deep, more. Bosnia was film and chemicals and facsimile and dish. Big bucks.
Anyway Klaus Kalder at easyos stimulation moved on to embedded, fair enough.
Obviously MX Linux is the contemporaneous kitchen sink, but I think antiX is the champ, again, one director, one man.
The Greek State understands that the future is open-source, it's not my bias because I am British and Greek.
News page on antixlinux dot com Bookworm beta June 11, 2023, runit & sysvinit.