@golinux since this thread is getting a lot of nonsense, I am guessing its okay if I make a nonsensical thread devoted to weird stuff like aliens crashing on planet earth and sucking our blood out of our body. Am I right?

I tried the reckless method to install gnuinos recently... and surprisingly it worked.

I switched from Devuan chimaera to Gnuinos Daedalus.

Had to disable key signatures temporarily though lol.

Anywho, I wondered if it would be possible to make libraries for the following no longer needed if not already done:

avahi, pam, elogind, pipewire, network-manager, dbus, pulseaudio, wayland.

Btw, dhcpcd-gtk also requires a dbus library for some reason... no idea why.

So far gnuinos' daedalus version works good in vm. Currently using connman though.

@golinux I thought you had lost interest in this thread

@golinux & @greenjeans

Making test isos is probably far beyond my paygrade too. I know like nothing about programming languages and very little about stuff developers do.  I tend to learn in order to accomplish what I need without driving myself nuts.

Hyperbola FDE + /Boot is the farthest I have pushed myself ever.

I have done the same on devuan though a long time ago too!

This being said, I prefer the classic debian installer. I am not all that familiar with how to set up the same form of encryption you do with classic installer on the refracta one.

Just sayin

The problem of systemd is mainly that it never stops growing.

Although, its already bigger than it needs to be.

It should have been complete after one hundred thousand lines of code at minimum.

Its on its way to being as big as the original Windows NT.  I read it has 6 million lines of code. Systemd has like 1 million at least.

The moment it surpasses NT is the moment people everywhere should realize the monster they made. (minimum if not sooner)  With the exception of redhat and microsoft and similar, because they have no humility in this kind of thing.

@steve_V it was the "no shit sherlock" part.

Also the "muppet" part too.

I don't really watch brodie's stuff much but I love a good gnome dev roast.

It seems like you want to play the petty game. Shall I post some your mom jokes?

Since you seem raring to go?

@steve_v  was not obvious till I looked at comments.

I didn't know muppets could put videos online, I thought only humans could. I didn't know science has now found a way to make muppets talk, walk have brains like actual people.

Other guys do the same stuff online including that Landuke guy people sometimes praise here.

Ironically, I do agree with him on rust not being a magical bullet. I saw a title that said he wasnt thrilled with rust.

Anywho, harsh as usual I see.

@golinux sure?  I wasn't trying to insult him in either response.

I was just pondering why and now that I know, curiosity satisfied

@blackhole Still, librewolf is an option and so is waterfox.

I would take those two firefox current web browser derivatives over any chromium ever. Also Icecat is now being kept up to date so there is that option too.

If people have no choice but to use chromium because stuff don't work in firefox though, that is another thing.

Though 'normal' people I use air quotes cause that feel like an oxymoron to me sometimes but anyways, they always pick the easiest option even if its like surrendering to ads on a silver platter. This is the kind of thing that makes me want to see half of the world put in a mental institution for being so damn stupid.

the more you allow ads, the worse the planet gets and the more data that is collected and the more fascism has power if someone bad gets into power.

I could go on and on, but yeah... suffice to say, the majority of people frustrate me on certain things including this.

@greenjeans @igorzwx

If that were possible, I would have gotten dementia listening to and laughing at the orange guy in power rambling about nothing for the last 10 years.

Seems encrypted installs don't work yet. It dropped me to a shell after not finding myuser--vg-root.

Said it didnt exist... wierd shit

Actually, don't worry about luks2, supposedly debian has already switched to it since debian 11. And we know that devuan inherits that. So just the no dbus requirement would be good.