Hi Mike . . . just R click on an empty space in the top bar to toggle the list that offers the Menu Bar.

@quickfur . . . It might have felt that way to you but that was not the important takeaway because I really don't care what browser you use or what choices you make in your life. But it is to your benefit to understand why and how you make those decisions. If humans chose more wisely, we wouldn't be in the mess in which we currently find ourselves.   

You keep looking outward . . . when the root of the problem is an inner dynamic . . .

For me it's a matter of ethics . . .

The question is: Does the end justify the means!

Impulses and rationalizations can quickly become a slippery slope so I evaluate choices very carefully to protect my own integrity and ensure I am not just blindly satisfying this or that impulse . . .

I do not want to touch Google because it is not my friend and I will not participate in supporting it.

I am probably going to split your posts off into a search engine discussion thread because you are still OT for this thread.

DONE!

@Aliz24 . . . Did you know that one of our derivatives is EXE GNU/LINUX (Devuan GNU/Linux with Trinity Desktop)?!

@alexkemp . . . Good point! I'll leave the discussion open a while longer before making the change. Thanks for the feedback!

@zapper . . . Love your new signature! Will consider the clarification suggested . . .

It landed in moderation and I deleted it as you instructed to ignore it. At least it did arrive so something else is broken @hendrik's setup . . .

It is almost certain that it cannot be avoided. Extensive discussion on the dng mail list.

Well said zapper! This document has been around for a very long time. I self-hosted this forum for about 2 years before it replaced the original Discourse which was not really suited for Devuan users. According to the above posts, 2016-12-03 17:43:38 was the last time it was edited but then I can't remember if I made any minor 'silent' edits.

@quickfur . . . Did you read my posts at the beginning of this thread? I've been following and engaging in food quality issues since the 70s . . . long before there were any organic standards. If you want the whole story, try email . . .