@golinux I think part of my response belongs in the thread where I posted.

"@knighttemplar you are kinder than I in this regard. I don't put up with crap like that. I would've probably told that dude who wanted to ban you, to quote "suck it."

Even though I probably would have been banned.

I don't tolerate corporate fascists or corporate thugs.

Also, staying with a distro that has such a community is close to the level of bad of tolerating actual idiots.

I have my limits I will say.

"

@stopai I am not fond of redhat or freedesktop.org projects and pipewire feels like one of those if it isn't already.

@steve_v OOF I didn't expect you to swear, and the F-word at that...

Dear lord... you are super pissed.

As for you going elsewhere, only gotta say, later then, if ever...

@golinux two things... should I watch this conversation with popcorn?

And also, if you think my nonsense was painfully stupid, look up qanon and pizzagate.

@g4sra which package has that awful license change? LXD?

@golinux yeah, I did. I thought it was funny lol. I wondered how quick you would lock it LOL.

I should do this more often am I right?

@golinux since this thread is getting a lot of nonsense, I am guessing its okay if I make a nonsensical thread devoted to weird stuff like aliens crashing on planet earth and sucking our blood out of our body. Am I right?

I tried the reckless method to install gnuinos recently... and surprisingly it worked.

I switched from Devuan chimaera to Gnuinos Daedalus.

Had to disable key signatures temporarily though lol.

Anywho, I wondered if it would be possible to make libraries for the following no longer needed if not already done:

avahi, pam, elogind, pipewire, network-manager, dbus, pulseaudio, wayland.

Btw, dhcpcd-gtk also requires a dbus library for some reason... no idea why.

So far gnuinos' daedalus version works good in vm. Currently using connman though.

@golinux I thought you had lost interest in this thread

@golinux & @greenjeans

Making test isos is probably far beyond my paygrade too. I know like nothing about programming languages and very little about stuff developers do.  I tend to learn in order to accomplish what I need without driving myself nuts.

Hyperbola FDE + /Boot is the farthest I have pushed myself ever.

I have done the same on devuan though a long time ago too!

This being said, I prefer the classic debian installer. I am not all that familiar with how to set up the same form of encryption you do with classic installer on the refracta one.

Just sayin

The problem of systemd is mainly that it never stops growing.

Although, its already bigger than it needs to be.

It should have been complete after one hundred thousand lines of code at minimum.

Its on its way to being as big as the original Windows NT.  I read it has 6 million lines of code. Systemd has like 1 million at least.

The moment it surpasses NT is the moment people everywhere should realize the monster they made. (minimum if not sooner)  With the exception of redhat and microsoft and similar, because they have no humility in this kind of thing.