Well, that didn't take long. I removed lxqt and install xfce. Same thing - shutdown/reboot from the menu don't work with just dummy-logind and seatd.

So then I tried installing consolekit and libpam-ck-connector. It removed a bunch of libraries and also gvfs. But it didn't remove any xfce packages. Desktop still works, shutdown/reboot still greyed out.

rations, thanks for the report. I get the same problem with the brightness control when I run it from a usb on my thinkpad. Meanwhile, I added redshift, and that works fine for changing brightness and screen temperature.

I don't want to hijack greenjeans' thread, so I'll try to stay relevant. I made a similar iso that has xorg, and shutdown/reboot from the menu don't work there, either. So it's not an xlibre problem. Might be seatd or polkitd related.

Edit: Adding elogind and libpam-elogind fixes the shutdown problem.

@tyder: Yes.

https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … 4_1517.iso

Devuan Freia (Testing) respin with xlibre, minimal lxqt, seatd (no elogind), no display manager.

Login:Password
user:user
root:root

Use startx to get the desktop.
Right-click on the desktop to get the openbox menu for exit/shutdown/reboot or use 'sudo reboot' or similar.
Read the README. It's short.

I switched from the old xlibre repo to the newer one (https://github.com/xlibre-debian/devuan) and ran into some weirdness. I had to remove all the old xlibre packages instead of just upgrading - the versions of xlibre are the same in both repos. (1:7.8+4)

Other weirdness is that the newer repo seems to have Suite: and Components: reversed, but correcting that does not work. I get an error message about the Release file missing. Leaving them reversed does work, and I was able to install xlibre.

I was also able to remove my user from the input group. I think that means the seatd support is working, but I'm not sure if they're related.

$ dpkg -l |grep -E "seat|logind"
ii  libelogind-compat:amd64            255.17-5                                     amd64        user, seat and session management library compatibility
ii  libelogind0:amd64                  255.17-5                                     amd64        user, seat and session management library
ii  libseat1:amd64                     0.9.3-1                                      amd64        flexible seat and user management library
ii  seatd                              0.9.3-1                                      amd64        minimal seat and user management daemon

FTW, install your favorite version in a virtual machine and then do the upgrade. That way, if you screw it up, it's easy to start over again. Then you can make your own iso with refractasnapshot and install to real hardware.

Set up both wired and wireless in /etc/network/interfaces.

Network Configuration Guide
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … figuration

I didn't know I could do this, but it works. I think it's basically the same as what you're trying to do.

Live-usb, first partition is fat32 and has filesystem.squashfs, kernel and initrd, syslinux and grub files with boot menus.

Second partition is linux partition and I made a loopback file for the persistent filesystem. I kept the default username of devuan, so I didn't have to do anything special on first boot.

With nottyautologin I'm able to drop to console with ctrl-alt-Fn and there's a login prompt (n=1-6). Without nottyautologin, tty1 shows the end of the boot messages and no login prompt or command prompt. And tty2-6 are just black.

This is the boot command for user 'devuan'

BOOT_IMAGE=/excal_6.1.1/live/vmlinuz initrd=/excal_6.1.1/live/initrd.img boot=live live-media-path=/excal_6.1.1/live persistence persistence-media=removable-usb persistence-path=/loopfiles/ persistence-label=dev1 username=devuan  nottyautologin apparmor=0 

Second loopback file for alternate persistence. For the first boot, I added nox11autologin and S to boot to single user. As root, I deleted the primary user (devuan) and deleted all of /home/devuan, then created phred. (deluser and adduser). When I exited the root console, the desktop came up without having to log in.

On subsequent boot, I removed the nox11autologin, and phred's desktop came up without a login.

This is the boot command for user 'phred'

BOOT_IMAGE=/excal_6.1.1/live/vmlinuz initrd=/excal_6.1.1/live/initrd.img boot=live live-media-path=/excal_6.1.1/live persistence persistence-media=removable-usb persistence-path=/loopfiles/ persistence-label=dev1b username=phred nottyautologin apparmor=0

If your user's name is 'user' then it doesn't need to be set it in the boot command.

@aitor

RE: mdadm errors in live iso.
See https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=57685#p57685

That post has the solution. The whole thread describes the problem and a couple of ineffective attempts at a solution.

TLDR: mdadm is not installed, but the package is in the iso for installation after boot, no network needed.

P.S. If you come up with a better solution, please let me know.

No, I don't have to delete 'user', and noautologin does work with or without persistence. I've been doing it this way for about 15 years. Before devuan existed I was doing this with debian. I guess we're not doing the same thing.

I use this to make a live-usb: https://get.refracta.org/files/tools/re … ~4_all.deb

I don't get the same results as you. The noautologin option is working correctly here on two different live-isos.

The devuan desktop-live iso has user 'devuan' pre-defined, and with noautologin, boot stops at the slim login screen.
A refracta live iso has user 'user' pre-defined, and with noautologin, boot stops at the lightdm login screen.

Maybe I should call it a pre-existing user instead. That user already exists and has a home directory inside the squashfs as opposed to being created when the system boots.

The default user already exists in devuan live isos. In debian live isos, the default user is created during boot if the option 'config' is included in the command line. I think if you remove that, you'll have the default user again.

@tyder, see if you can narrow down which kernel parameters make a difference. TAB or e to edit the boot entry on the fly.

Here's mine.
Booted from usb on hardware. It works here.

 inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Chicony Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
  Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
    dri: iris gpu: i915 tty: 121x24 resolution: 1600x900
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: iris,swrast platforms: gbm,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 25.0.7-2 note: console (EGL sourced)
    renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2), llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits)
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop,
    xrandr