Yeah, provided you wanted to waste a couple of hours doing an install. Refracta-Installer is a brilliant piece of work that takes around 10 minutes to do, and so simple a caveman could do it. Truth is it could be even simpler as no installer (IMO) should have to do partitioning, running gparted before doing an install should be mandatory. And it's getting better with every iteration.

There is an elegance to brevity of code, that people forget in this day and age. " Oh dang, I have 5000 gb of ram and 1000 terabyte HD, so I should grow all programs and apps to be gigantic and consume 500 gb of ram minimum." Because ya know, rounded corners and all.

ROTFL! That is some sig-line material right there.

So true too....

@Igor if you were in reality a robot and you didn't know but the rest of us did, would you want us to tell you?

Wait, you guys are getting 120 mbps write speed? dayum....almost makes me want to try an SSD.

Stuff like this is why I made AlsaTune (formerly mxeq), all configurable instantly in one GUI.

Unfortunately doesn't work in DE's with built-in mixers, been pondering that issue for a while now, there may be a way around it.

Been using Synaptic for many years now, it's my preferred way of doing things, easy to search, reasonably descriptive.

I can see both sides here, and at the risk of getting snarked at by Ralph and/or chewed out by Steve, lol, i'm gonna post this.

I don't consider Devuan a "distro", I consider it an online provider of Linux packages for me to use to build a distro. That's it. Possibly it might help some folks to look at it that way.

I consider it my job to update outdated packages when needed, add third-party software and some of my own apps, to fix little bugs and behavior, to dot the i's and cross the t's, to design the system to be user-friendly and stable.

Devuan's basically Home Depot, and i'm a carpenter. Systemd is warped lumber and Debian is fine with forcing it on you, while Devuan chooses to pitch out as much of it as they can.

I'm always shocked when I hear people that have issues with the Refracta-Installer, for me it's literally the best install experience in 18 years of Linux, so simple and straightforward....10 minutes or less and i'm done, never had it fail on me. I honestly don't see how it could be made more user-friendly. The installer script itself is only 67 kb, I know it like the back of my hand and if I thought it could be made better I wouldn't hesitate to try things and report my findings to fsmithred for possible inclusion.

What about it is be-fuddling folks?

FYI I didn't start this thread, I made a post that got moved. But I do appreciate the replies and insight.

Interesting, must not be caching thumbnails I guess? I have a script for that.....

@Mercury, because Devuan is extremely short-handed and the devs are over-worked and underpaid, sometimes you have to focus on bigger stuff....

Perhaps you could write out a note about it since you seem familiar with the issue, then submit it for inclusion? I believe Xenguy is who you'd need to contact to add documentation to the website.

So for those unfamiliar, this is NOT an official Devuan iso, nor is it an official Vuu-do iso. It's just a snapshot of vanilla Devuan with the Mate DE, rolled up from the same daedalus iso. Just a simple way to get up and running with Devuan Mate. FYI I forgot to revert sources.list to the default Devuan list, so gnlug is the current default and I don't feel like running another iso just to deal with that! You can change 'em in Synaptic.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … te-mini-6/

From the readme:
This is not an official Devuan release, nor a Vuu-do release. This is a user re-spin
of Devuan 6 (excalibur), updated completely as of 2/09/2026 with the Mate desktop environment.
It's purpose is to provide a quick small iso for those interested in testing the
Mate version of Devuan.

2-09-2026 Updated fully, some 155 packages including a new kernel. Also added a lot of
firmware packages, mostly for wi-fi and ethernet but also bluetooth and some
graphics stuff including the nvidia graphics package (for nouveau). All this
is to try and insure a user can get full functionality right out of the box.
It does bloat up initrd some, a smart user can get rid of what they don't need
post-install easily enough. I also added addititonal support for viewing and
thumbnailing newer image formats like heif and avif and jxl.

Fixed the alsa-restore issue using fsmithred's fix.

Fixed the dbus spamming issue from rotating the machine-ID using the init script
I posted in this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7414

Fixed the NM-lease spamming by adding to the post-install Refracta script.

Added updated excludes files for Refracta-tools, added some and commented one
which was the one deleting the gtk icon caches, and rebuilt all the icon caches.

Put a halt to the watchdog spam during boot.

Fixed a couple of useless systemd warnings.

Pulled picom out, it was spamming logs when not in use. Mate has a compositor
built-in which it uses by default. If you really want picom it's in the repo
but you'll need mate-tweak to apply it.

Pulled the gnome policy kit auth package, Mate has it's own, also got rid of
gnome keyring and it's depends.

Fixed and expanded sources.list, the default Devuan repo urls are there, and
also (commented out) are the gnlug listings for an alternate repo if you have
issues with DNS.

Changed the theme, the green-blue was just too clash, switched to BlueMenta
for a nice simple interface, and switched to the deepsea icons which are a
nice blue that compliments the Devuan wallpaper. Only issue with those was
the default menu icon was the gnome foot, so that had to go. I found a large
Devuan logo in pixmaps, so I made new icons from it in gimp, looks really
nice I think!

This is a liveCD and includes the Refracta-installer for fast simple install.
This is not uefi-enabled. The os-prober has been enabled when you install grub, if you
need to disable it before install, while still in live-session, just edit
/etc/default/grub and /usr/share/grub/default/grub to disable the prober.
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In all respects it is identical to current Devuan, I have not "vuu-do-fied" it,
it contains all original files, docs, translations, help files, original configs,
artwork etc. with the following exceptions:

This is a "mini", it contains no browser, office or multimedia programs whatsoever,
just the infrastructure for you to build on and configure as you see fit. There are no
release notes or manual as this is stock Devuan and ample documentation is available
on the site and forum.

Had to add firmware for AMD before lightdm would work properly for me, this may be
just my machine, or you may need it for Nvidia and Intel too, just don't know yet,
again this is all from the testing section, and hasn't been declared stable yet.

Some packages have been added for convenience, these are:
Mozo - simple mate menu editor
Mate-tweak - handy utility, gets rid of pesky desktop icons if you so desire
Parcellite - clipboard manager
NTPsec - keeps time correct
Caja file manger extensions - resize-rotate images, open terminal here, edit/open as root etc.
Bleachbit - but it has been configured to NOT delete any translations/localizations.

Slight mods to config:
File-manager configged to open files with single-click and include delete command that
bypasses trash - this made my work go much faster. Altered sources.list as main repo has
been having some issues, changed to what's been working for me and what I used to build this iso.
Set lightdm.conf to autologin the user on the liveDVD for convenience.

Username/passwords for LiveDVD:

devuan = devuan
root = root

Again, have used Snapshot many times on excalibur over the last 6 months, worked fine every time and still does, I have excalibur-based isos on my sourceforge right now that were made with Snapshot.

This seems like a case of user-error.