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#3101 Re: Installation » [Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii » 2017-07-08 22:37:39

miroR wrote:

What was back then Debian Testing branch was Debian Stretch, back when I updated my Devuan Jessie with that Debian Stretch.

And Debian Stretch corresponded/correlated/you-name-the-relation with Devuan Ascii.

But now it is not so anymore.

Devuan ASCII is still based on Stretch.  The problem was that Stretch moved from testing to stable and the script was tracking testing so was polluted with stuff from Buster.

miroR wrote:

The Debian Testing branch is now Debian Buster, and now Debian Buster is what is, to some extent, looked at for developing Devuan Ascii.

NO!!  Unless I've totally missed something, Ceres is now tracking Buster. And as said above ASCII is tracking Stretch.

Eventually, Buster will be Devuan's Beowulf.

#3102 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-07-08 16:03:55

I've heard many times that skipping a release is a very bad idea.  Don't know why you chose to do that . . .

#3103 Re: Documentation » Devuan Documentation (structural draft) » 2017-07-08 14:01:14

The site was recently moved from the subdomain to here.  Thanks for catching the broken link.  I've corrected in in the OP.

#3104 Re: Documentation » Live-build tips » 2017-07-08 13:49:27

I assume you've seen this for starts?

#3105 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Slim and build settings » 2017-07-07 21:25:02

You said it didn't have anything to do with that package but I thought maybe it did.  wink   I have no idea how Centurion_Dan set slim  up at the 11th hour before the stable release. That's who has the answer though.

#3106 Re: Installation » Ceres minimal .iso ... » 2017-07-07 14:36:00

AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet (and I doubt that a ceres iso will ever).  You could boot the minimal-live iso, upgrade it through ASCII and ceres and then take a snapshot to create you very own ceres iso.

#3107 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Slim and build settings » 2017-07-06 23:54:21

Progress . . . congrats. smile  Did you build it with the d1h?   Since those with access to the resources to package properly don't come here often, you'll need to contact them on #devuan-dev once you've got it ready to package for ascii.

#3108 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Slim and build settings » 2017-07-06 05:12:53

PeteGozz wrote:

Now if a couple of other people would like to verify ....
git pull origin master
From https://git.devuan.org/devuan/slim
* branch            master     -> FETCH_HEAD
Already up-to-date.

I used that one as it looks like the top of the fork tree to me.

This is the version that the current purpy slim is built off of but the font colors and positioning are not quite right:
https://git.devuan.org/hellekin/slim/tr … vuan-curve

This is the correct slim.theme but I have no idea where it currently resides on git.  Package name is devuan-curve-purpy:

#
## SLiM theme Devuan Curve
#
# Copyright 2015-2016 Dyne.org Foundation
# Created by hellekin <hellekin@dyne.org>
#
## Known issues
#
# - usernames larger than 20 characters may overflow the input box
#   SLiM limits username's length to 29 characters.  Usernames are
#   usually much shorter though.
# - ditto for passwords.  Usually a password up to 28 characters
#   should display without overflow.
#
## Changelog
#
# October 2016
#
# - Panel now indicates the F1 key and send to `man slim` for more
#   options.
# - Font changed from Fira Sans to Open Sans
# - Changed to Jessie's purpy theme

## background

# background.png is 50x50 purpy square
background_style tile
background_color #7b7691

## panel
# note: all positions are in pixels to ensure multihead support.

# place panel on the top left
# position is absolute
input_panel_x      0
input_panel_y      0

# use only one line for username and password inputs
# positions are absolute values, and relative to the panel
input_name_x     121
input_name_y     257

input_pass_x      -1
input_pass_y      -1

# place 'username:' and 'password:' prompts just above the input line
# positions are absolute values, and relative to the panel
username_x       119
username_y       231

password_x       119
password_y       231

# center feedback messages
# position is absolute
msg_x            595
msg_y            450

# center session messages
# position is absolute
session_x        595
session_y        395

# disable welcome message
# position is absolute
welcome_x         -1
welcome_y         -1

## text

username_msg              username:
password_msg              password:
passwd_feedback_msg       ACCESS DENIED
passwd_feedback_capslock  ACCESS DENIED (CapsLock is on)

input_color    #716c85
msg_color      #dad9dc
session_color  #dad9dc
username_color #dad9dc

input_font     Open Sans:medium:size=14:dpi=96
msg_font       Open Sans:medium:size=18:dpi=96
session_font   Open Sans:medium:size=14:dpi=96
username_font  Open Sans:medium:size=14:dpi=96

You might also want to look at this: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=581

#3109 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Post Install Config Problems » 2017-07-05 21:30:12

bbatten wrote:

Hi PeteGozz,

Thanks for the feedback. Any ideas, pointers, tips on how I can fix up my xfce install?

Thanks,

If you're referring to the resolution issue, try xrandr.  Actually lxrandr has a nice gui selector.

#3110 Re: Forum Feedback » Certificate expiry? » 2017-07-05 21:28:57

Simplicio wrote:

Is anyone admitting to an oops?

I have the auto-renew bot standing in the corner and going to bed without supper.

#3111 Re: DIY » Environment to port Debian (or other) to Devuan » 2017-07-05 03:22:23

Are you aware that Devuan has a vagrant image?  You can read about how to deploy it at the bottom of this page.  I understand that doesn't answer your question but thought I'd mention it.

#3112 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Any relation between Devuan and antiX/MX? » 2017-07-03 15:49:08

Vall wrote:

. . .I just found out about AntiX and MX, and it announces itself as "Debian 8.5 (jessie), but systemd-free!"[1].

Seems very similar to Devuan, which is why I ask this question.

When this thread was started, I didn't know much about the MX approach to 'systemd-free'.  Then I found this page on the MX wiki which says:

MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default.

So systemd is is disabled as per Debian's instructions but it seems that all the underlying systemd dependencies remain intact which means that there is quite a big difference between what MX and Devuan are doing.  Not sure if antix goes further . . .

#3113 Re: Devuan » How to get involved » 2017-07-01 23:21:24

This is a long-standing issue from the way amprolla works.  Workaround is here:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=519

(The search function on this forum works pretty well.  smile  )

#3114 Re: Devuan » How to get involved » 2017-07-01 20:29:43

Welcome yeu . . . There are lots of informative stickies posted on this forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=589

#3115 Re: Documentation » Devuan migration how to » 2017-07-01 04:37:33

Good luck!  And for others who may want to go down that road . . . here's a quote from the Debian Wiki. The same goes for Devuan, of course:

Don't make a FrankenDebian

Debian Stable should not be combined with other releases. If you're trying to install software that isn't available in the current Debian Stable release, it's not a good idea to add repositories for other Debian releases. The problems might not happen right away, but the next time you install updates.

The reason things can break is because the software packaged for one Debian release is built to be compatible with the rest of the software for that release. For example, installing packages from Jessie on a Wheezy system will also install newer versions of core libraries including glibc. This results in a system that is not Wheezy or Jessie but a broken mix of the two.

Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:

    Debian testing release (currently stretch)

    Debian unstable release (also known as sid)

    Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!

    Ubuntu PPAs

#3116 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-30 22:58:03

Don't manufacturers sometimes put strange data on flash drives that could be causing this?  Maybe some 'security' or MS idiot feature?

#3117 Re: Documentation » Devuan migration how to » 2017-06-30 03:44:21

Ubuntu is NOT Debian. The guide specifically says:

This document describes how to upgrade to Devuan Jessie from a Debian Wheezy install or migrate from a Debian Jessie install . . .

Mixing distros/repos, even those based on Debian, can really screw up a Debian/Devuan install and create a Frankende**an.

Backup your data, do a clean install and import your files.

#3119 Re: Off-topic » Hi From NZ » 2017-06-27 14:18:24

Hi darry1966 and welcome to the forum!  Did you know that one of the lead Devuan developers is from NZ?

#3120 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-26 19:14:41

You are free to build whatever packages you like in git.devuan.org.  Whether they would be adopted as 'default' or 'official' is another matter.

#3121 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-26 18:14:29

Ah, so you've moved from documentation to packaging.  Now I understand.

I cannot fully answer your question but I do know that Devuan packaging is done with the d1h Devuan packaging helper.  Properly built and reviewed packages are usually put in experimental for testing.  All this is done on devuan.git.org.

#3122 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-26 17:05:32

mckaygerhard wrote:

golinux its there any plan to get futer incubation process for users like mentors or similar?

I have no idea what you're asking.  Could you please try again?

#3123 Re: Devuan Derivatives » how to setup installer with different desktop rather than Xfce4 » 2017-06-26 15:19:42

The suggestion that your material will be 'taken' is ludicrous.  Feel free to post it elsewhere.  The wiki is undergoing some changes and your situation there will be resolved shortly.

#3124 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Trinity on Jessie » 2017-06-25 15:02:57

http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::15442

This is not in our roadmap at all.  The prelimiary work I've done to see
if we can gain Wayland support centers around moving drawing to GTK3;

A month or so ago, there was discussion of packaging TDE for Devuan but it hasn't happened yet (and may not)

#3125 Re: Off-topic » backup systems sheet comparison » 2017-06-25 04:16:22

@mckaygerhard . . . Do you have to be so consistently insulting to others on this forum?  Why would you expect someone to get excited over something for which they have no use?  And why do you demean the solutions that work for them? Reality  check . . . you do not have all the answers and your way is not the only way . . .

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