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#226 Re: Freedom Hacks » How to change dependencies of a Debian package » 2025-06-08 15:49:27
A very personal opinion . . . A wiki is useless without a viable distro. We need boots on the ground to deal with the cluster**** that Debian keeps throwing at us not a fugly, head-tripping wiki. I took care of the first wiki attempt so have some experience. A wiki is close to outdated by the time it is finally written so pretty much a waste of resources. The wiki information is also based on information that is available elsewhere so seems like a duplication of effort for no real gain as it will be outdated before the ink dries. And AI has absolutely nothing to do with Devuan and would be totally OT on a Devuan wiki even though it is tolerated on the forum in moderation.
#227 Re: Off-topic » Hospitals and the irc#devuan » 2025-06-04 17:43:33
@chomwitt . . .
Hard to believe no one answered you question. And even harder to believe you aren't aware that Jenkins is our package builder!
You can find it here:
https://jenkins.devuan.dev/view/Devuan% … 0Builders/
And it is mentioned on this page of devuan.org:
https://www.devuan.org/os/development
Logs are available at:
#devuan-ci
Edit: Also info about our build system on this very forum amprolla magic.
#228 Re: Off-topic » Hospitals and the irc#devuan » 2025-05-28 19:03:53
@chomwitt . . . a "rant" is a verbose tirade (with which I believe you are quite familiar). 
#229 Re: Off-topic » Hospitals and the irc#devuan » 2025-05-28 16:43:00
RANT!! This metaphor failed for me out of the gate because hospitals are a special kind of hell hole where sickness and healing are incredibly misunderstood. I will spare you the rant . . .
#230 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] .xsession-errors file » 2025-05-27 15:43:07
After I update or (rarely) reboot, first thing I do is take a quick look a xsession-errors then delete it.
#231 Re: Off-topic » libadwaita forked by Mint » 2025-05-27 03:02:17
#232 Re: Off-topic » libadwaita forked by Mint » 2025-05-26 22:12:40
@zapper . . . IIUC . . . that is surely not a given . . . Client Side Decorations locks in the look and feel of the desktop. A "nocsd" package has allowed us to do that for years. They are just tightening the noose . . .
#233 Re: Off-topic » libadwaita forked by Mint » 2025-05-26 15:35:09
Good find, greenjeans! That would certainly solve a lot of visual presentation lock-in issues that are coming down the pipeline. Would require someone to integrate it into Devuan though. Perhaps someone will step up to take it on . . .
#234 Re: Off-topic » So Microsoft has ruined GitHub by pushing AI sloppy nonsense features » 2025-05-25 21:56:09
That seems to be one of the best refuges available but since I am not an active git user these days, I have no personal experience. As to moving off our current git . . . low priority because it still works . . .
#235 Re: Off-topic » So Microsoft has ruined GitHub by pushing AI sloppy nonsense features » 2025-05-25 17:21:39
Early on, Devuan was on gitlab . . . then moved to gitea. There have been changes in gitea too but no serious talk about another move.
#236 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-23 00:08:10
@greenjeans . . . Let's see where things go in the coming years. Currently things seem to be working through Excalibur and I will be on Chimaera until it is EOL. My personal trajectory . . . by the time I work my way through Daedalus and Excalibur I will be getting very close to 90! Strangely, I find comfort in that thought . . .
Also remember that Devuan has always been Debian without systemd. So a radical change to other applications like the DE would require a major shift in standing policy and that would require extensive discussion and feedback.
#237 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-22 19:17:04
Well a new thread would probably be better, but since we don't have the full context of golinux's somewhat cryptic message, it may be a little premature.
It was a mistake to have posted that nonsense . . . boredom can have weird consequences. I would move it to a new thread if it were worthy of attention. Another option is self-restraint to let that cryptic comment fade into oblivion. Final solution would be deletion.
#238 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Stale keyring files? » 2025-05-21 23:55:48
There is hope! A little birdie told me that Xfce may be on the chopping block because of the UI and other changes . . .
#239 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-19 22:30:02
Much appreciated delgado. When I'm in the mood, I'll fiddle with it in preparation for the day I divorce firefox! I've never used an app image but maybe it's time . . . need to investigate all escape routes to flee the madness . . . 
#240 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-19 21:11:59
I'm not there yet - still on Chimaera - but would like to know if it Is it possible to run Librewolf and firefox at the same time? I sort of remember trying it once and it wasn't possible . . . Thanks.
#241 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Which Trackball device? » 2025-05-17 02:06:46
Yes! Does everything I need and they are still available or were last time I bought some. I don't like tools that light up and are complicated.
#242 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Which Trackball device? » 2025-05-17 01:47:23
I still use a classic roller-ball mouse! Old habits die hard . . .
#243 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » viber authentication upon reboot » 2025-05-15 20:07:26
And there you have it. Thanks for the update and confirmation.
#244 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2025-05-08 23:36:22
@greenjeans . . . That is very true and probably the logic behind them still being in their current position. Please share your perspective with Xenguy on IRC #devuan-www where this was being discussing earlier today wrt the presentation on devuan.org.
#245 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2025-05-07 17:47:09
@Camtaf . . . If you tell me which ones need attention, I can have a look and move them to an appropriate place. That will need to be done anyway for the WWW update when Excalibur is released. Thanks for your help!
#246 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Wallpaper Location » 2025-05-01 20:24:38
Translation of the above . . .
Hello everyone. Sorry for writing in Spanish. I'm new to GNU/Linux, and I chose Devuan as my option (I come from—and sometimes also use—another distribution that some say is more beginner-friendly. But I really feel very comfortable with Devuan, and it's been a very good decision).
The issue I'm raising is related to this topic. I'm also new to Xfce (I use Devuan 5.0 Daedalus with the Xfce desktop), and I've encountered the difficulty of not being able to find the /usr/share/images/desktop-base/ directory. I've searched for it in Thunar with the search engine, and it doesn't appear. I'm probably doing the search incorrectly. The reason for my question is to have the backup folder for the default Devuan wallpapers before changing the wallpaper in Xfce, or at least identify the path to said folder.
Thank you and best regards.
#247 Re: News & Announcements » Initramfs changes in Excalibur + refracta2usb » 2025-04-30 19:25:17
dzz . . . nice to see you around so much and contributing to debuging the Excalibur isos. :thumbs-up:
#248 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » viber authentication upon reboot » 2025-04-16 19:39:30
It's not on https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
Neither is it found in our package list https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … *&x=submit
IOW . . . Devuan does not know that viber exists so there is no expectation that it would work . . .
#249 Re: Other Issues » Getting a ton of the same errors in .xsession-errors in excalibur » 2025-04-12 00:30:13
"Just delete the file and don't ever turn your machine off" is also not a great answer my friend.
Huh . . . When my tower suspends, it is quite dormant and power is off.
#250 Re: Other Issues » Getting a ton of the same errors in .xsession-errors in excalibur » 2025-04-11 22:17:46
@golinux, don't know about your system, but here I can delete the file(s), but it re-spawns every time you re-boot or logout/logbackin.
That's what "suspend" is for. I can go for a VERY long time w/o having to reboot.
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