I've just contributed a new user repository specifically for the use of the community. Is that not relevant for this thread?

The repository is empty at the moment but it should have some packages soon.

Evenson wrote:

https://docs.codelite.org/downloads/download/#ubuntu-debian

Their Debian buster & bullseye repositories should be binary-compatible with Devuan beowulf & chimaera, respectively.

So try something like

curl -fsSL https://repos.codelite.org/CodeLite.asc | gpg --dearmor | sudo tee /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/codelight.gpg >/dev/null
sudo apt update
sudo apt install codelight

Disclaimer: the Devuan developers do not recommend using third-party repositories (including mine) so you're on your own if you try this.

The vast majority of Alpine systems run in containers and so don't need kernels. FWIW I've just tried a virtual installation of 3.17 using this ISO image and following these instructions. The kernel (linux-lts) installed just fine without any errors.

elogind is supposed to handle those permissions now.

Some of the groups might be needed (eg, the CUPS stuff, no idea about that) but I *never* add my users to extra groups and everything works. I certainly don't need to be in the audio group to have working sound, or in the video group to have a fully supported video card.

Reference: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Users_ … emd_groups ← although that refers to systemd & logind the information applies equally to elogind.

Evenson wrote:

Merry xmas devuan/dev1galaxy.
Giving conky a try for status stuff. I was using slstatus but patched dwm to fit in a conky status bar at the bottom, not a dzen bar this is pure conky.

https://i.postimg.cc/mz59cNjm/2022-12-25-202954-1920x1080-scrot.png

Wow, how did you do that? The thing I hate about conky is how normally useless it is on DWM, but you've fixed that.

blackhole wrote:

there's actually little point to packaging every kernel rebuild as a deb

What about all of the patches Debian apply to their kernel? And why would the kernel be any different to any other software? I wouldn't dream of using plain make install, even if a decent uninstall target is provided in the Makefile. It just seems so... crude to not use the provided packaging tools.

Although having said that Debian's packaging is so ridiculously complicated compared to, for example, Arch or Alpine that I can see why you might want to avoid it :-)

No, Kelsoo is not correct. The FAQ clearly states that firmware is *not* included with OpenBSD, and hence the kernel is blob-free.

And my comment was in respect of the spelling rather than any philosophical argument.

Ogis1975 wrote:

who are you going to report

You, I expect. As am I. I'm also going to add you to my ignore list, and I invite anyone else interested in keeping this board on-topic to do the same.

If you can't keep your political drivel to yourself, piss off. This is not the place for it.

"The system is installed in a pristine, blob-free state but on first boot the hardware is checked and any firmware that is needed is downloaded and installed. It is an automatic process but it only works if the machine has an internet connection."

Evenson wrote:

Im reading Dune for the first time, its quite the epic and im drawn in. Ive watched the movie that came out last year but the book is by far superior.

Frank Herbert was an amazing, visionary scifi writer with traits of true genius. One of my favorite series by him was the Pandora series (Destination:Void, the Jesus Incident, the Lazarus Effect, and the Ascension Factor) in which he explores human consciousness and the concept of God in a distant future dystopic universe. In the Dune series and so many writings he will challenge your perception of reality and even change your thinking on subjects like biology, religion, politics, ethics. What's fascinating about him is he says "you are being lied to" without saying it, but by showing the consequences of our society's big lies in dramatic scifi stories.