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#1 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 20:40:51
it gives me this error: talion is not in the sudoers file how do i fix that it?
During installation you have the choice: you either allow root login and enter a root password, then you have to use a root console for admin tasks. My preferred method. Or you don't do that then you automatically are assigned to the sudoers group and you have to use a sudo before each admin command. Don't try to mix.
#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 19:34:35
Now you're talking about the 'card' drives that don't even use SATA connectors. Power usage doesn't seem to be linear there, either.
Generally spoken, there is not much difference between SATA SSDs in the typical 2,5" housing and these typical 2280 M2 cards as used for NVME drives. The power consumption on all of them are load frequency dependent.
And as a matter of fact, SSDs are in average of much lower power consumption as the spinning rust drives. Don't look at the rating, this is a max consumption value a drive rarely takes in in very extreme situations (and gets very hot and slows down to protect).
#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Power usage of SSDs » 2025-11-14 18:56:27
The power draw from any SSD is very much depending on the write/read load. The figures given are for full load at full speed plus a bit overhead. The average consumption will be very much lower.
But to be considered: PCIe3 consumes less than PCIe4, less than PCIe5.
#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Why does Trixie/Excalibur have two Nvidia driver versions (535 / 550)? » 2025-11-14 16:45:34
The NVidea problem is their support for older hardware. They stop providing drivers for older cards and do not adapt them for newer kernels any more. In the last 10 years AMD support has moved into the kernel and is very reliable, also for older cards.
#5 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 16:36:31
Everybody experienced would be very pleased if you could put any console output between code tags, including the command you have used. To write code tags use the button that is labelled code above the editing window, and paste the text between the starter and the end tag. Makes console outputs look like in a console, much more readable and more friendly for the contributors.
I will do this for you as an example by copying your last output and! adding line numbers like a reasonable text editor can do.
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
1 #deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 6.0.0-rc1 excalibur amd64 - netinstall 20250913]/ excalibur contrib main non-free-firmware
2
3 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
4 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
5 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
6
7 #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
8
9 # excalibur-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
10 # see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … _backports
11 deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware
12 deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware
13
14 # This system was installed using removable media other than
15 # CD/DVD/BD (e.g. USB stick, SD card, ISO image file).
16 # The matching "deb cdrom" entries were disabled at the end
17 # of the installation process.
18 # For information about how to configure apt package sources,
19 # see the sources.list(5) manual.Your sources.list contains 19 lines of text.
Line 5 and line 11 are (partial) duplicates. Line 11 causes the error messages you are getting.
My advise: get rid of every past line 8 and try again. Attention: there has to be an empty line at the end of the file.
#6 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-14 06:54:07
It would make sense if the OP would post a
cat /etc/apt/sources.list#7 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-13 17:26:45
Don't get confused by tux_99's reply. What I gave you is a correct /etc/apt/sources.list for Excalibur. The traditional format.
Now what tux_99 has posted is the new DEB822 format replacing the sources.list in the future. For the time being I would recommend to stay with the traditional format.
#8 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-13 16:28:28
A well defined sources.list looks like this.
No deb-src because this is only needed if you do coding and compiling code.
And no proposed-updates, not required for the normal user, and slightly risky, packages are coming in the release before testing is fully done. Only useful in very specific cases.
Backports is added but commented out. Only useful in very specific cases.
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Where are my logs? » 2025-11-12 16:45:20
All my upgrades on my laptop and in my VMs, I am not missing any logs. Same with a new installation from the released netinstall in a VM. Maybe you used one of the testing editions, and there is something in the back of my mind that rsyslog was missed out on one or two of them.
#10 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Failing to upgrade from daedalus to excaliber: no Release and Packages » 2025-11-11 17:15:43
Hello Steve, welcome in the galaxy.
Please have a close look at the spelling of excalibur, or have a look at the link present here on top of the page to Devuan.org.
#11 Re: Other Issues » Hi, new here just joined devuan. need help with games an programs. » 2025-11-10 16:53:52
goats advice to use pkgmaster is no good.
On the top of the forum is a link to the Devuan page. Its worth following the link. Here is something to read:
https://www.devuan.org/os/packages
A full blown correct sources entry should look like this:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmwareBTW: to use
suto become root is also outdated.
You need to use
su - or the path setting will be incorrect.
#12 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-08 17:14:57
Updated my travelling laptop to Excalibur a few days ago. The upgrade went well what Devuan is concerned, have got some BIOS-related UEFI-hickup. Sources have been modernized today.
The original sources.list reads like this:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ excalibur-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ excalibur-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmwareNo issues neither with apt nor apt-get.
Modernize generated two files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d with the following contents:
devuan.sources:
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-updates
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
devuan-backports.sources:
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-backports
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpgBackports was missing the key, I just added the line from devuan.sources. As well apt as apt get work:
# apt update
OK:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease
OK:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease
OK:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
OK:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports InRelease
Alle Pakete sind aktuell.
# apt-get update
OK:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease
OK:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease
OK:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
OK:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports InRelease
Paketlisten werden gelesen… FertigThen I moved everything into one block in one file (devuan.sources) and set devuan-backports.sources to Enabled: no:
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur excalibur-security excalibur-updates excalibur-backports
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Same result with apt and apt.get as before, works fine.
I use geany to edit the files. And I avoid de.deb.devuan.org. I just use the general round robin. There were some problems a while ago, recently I haven't seen any issues.
# ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 14. Sep 2022 /etc/apt/sources.list~
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 545 6. Nov 18:58 /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
/etc/apt/sources.list.d:
insgesamt 8
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 237 8. Nov 17:50 devuan-backports.sources
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 731 8. Nov 17:50 devuan.sourcesI can't complain.
#13 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Can't suspend, reboot, or shut down in a WM » 2025-11-08 10:29:19
Look around in the "Devuan Deriviates" section. Maybe there is a deriviate using IceWM already.
#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] AMD or nvidia? » 2025-11-06 15:23:45
... and AMD has long time support due to kernel drivers. Drivers do not drop out that fast as with NVidea.
#15 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 to 6 install failures » 2025-11-05 17:34:51
Please read the Release Notes.
#16 Re: Other Issues » No Jami in Excalibur » 2025-11-04 21:02:45
When packages have been dropped from a release, it may be worth checking the Debian/Devuan bug list.
#17 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 installation on VMware Workstation stuck » 2025-11-04 20:59:52
Just performed an expert installation from the released netinstall on a VBox 7.0.26 efi, encrypted with LVM, no issues. After reboot installed Cinnamon via tasksel.
My conclusion: the media as supplied by Devuan seems to be fine. If you are stuck, I would check the checksums of you download first of all. Or there is a problem with your VMWare and/or VBox installation.
#18 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 18:27:15
I have used nano on both VMs to edit the .sources, I never used vi or vim, I do not get along with these editors. I am sure the files are clean and pure linux text files.
Both VMs had sort of incomplete Suites in them.
I have no idea why I got so contradicting results. Now both VMs work with the Suites in a line.
#19 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 18:09:48
On a second try, now the upgraded system that did strike seems to accept the Suites in one line now:
/etc/apt/sources.list.d# cat devuan.sources
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur excalibur-updates excalibur-security
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
#Types: deb
#URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
#Suites: excalibur-updates
#Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
#Types: deb
#URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
#Suites: excalibur-security
#Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
/etc/apt/sources.list.d# cat devuan-backports.sources
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-backports
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpgNow apt update does this:
/etc/apt/sources.list.d# apt update
OK:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports InRelease
OK:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease
OK:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
Holen:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [37,9 kB]
Es wurden 37,9 kB in 0 s geholt (145 kB/s).
Alle Pakete sind aktuell.#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 17:51:34
Sure, but it seems to work. Anyway, it looks like this apt modernize-sources splits it up too.
Edith: the Suites in one line does work in a VM that was setup earlier on from a cli Daedalus netinstall upgraded to Excalibur, and then installing a Cinnamon DE. Don't understand where the differences are ...
The working one:
/etc/apt/sources.list.d# cat devuan.sources
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur excalibur-security excalibur-updates excalibur-backports
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpgThe other one on a Daedalus Upgrade isn't working:
/etc/apt/sources.list.d# cat devuan.sources
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-updates
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
# Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list
Types: deb
URIs: http://deb.devuan.org/merged/
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg#21 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 17:40:23
Just did some experiments in a VM updated from Daedalus. It works when I split up the suites into a list of single entries. When they are all in one line like in your example "excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates excalibur-updates" it does not work.
Miracle.
#22 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 17:17:51
Then thats out of the way.
I don't see any obvious fault in the file. The only thing that catches my eyes are two blanks between "excalibur-proposed-updates excalibur-updates".
Well, I would check the devuan.sources file with nano if there is any "bad" character in there.
And maybe you give apt instead of apt-get a try. Nowadays I only use apt.
#23 Re: Installation » After installation / how select Desktop » 2025-11-04 16:25:52
I am not familiar with sddm, I only use lightdm. You got a very complex installation.
When you are on the sddm login screen, there should be some sort of button behind that you should be able to choose.
#24 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Devuan Daedalus 32-bit to Excalibur » 2025-11-04 16:23:32
There won't be any more kernels for i386. Debian decision with consequences for Devuan. You may look around for other distros.
There is at least one thread in this forum about this topic: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7124 and I think there was another one.
#25 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] dist upgrade to excalibur hits only security packages » 2025-11-04 15:36:38
What about the sources.list? Does that still exist? It must be deleted or renamed.
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