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#1 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-07 09:21:49
Dear me... @rwall....
What exact version did you install?
Which ISO file?
Which method?
What special software do you install?
Have you thought of the SysV-Init files of your software to be used with OpenRC?
(/etc/init.d/......, maybe you have to install/edit/generate these special init.files, there may exist packages for it as in artix))
What hardware are you installing on?
Have you tried the superb method of testing with a live-iso as recommended by greenjeans?
And, last but not least:
If you are asking for help on this forum, after studying the documentation, please give detailed information on your configuration. (software-sources, versions, repo-info, system,.. simply all that enables our clever and volunteering members to help or give advice.
Have a good day all the same.
#2 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-06 16:00:10
So this may be the very occasion to install a fresh system:
Devuan Daedalus and choose OpenRC
or
Devuan Excalibur (if you are keen to try, although it's quite stable already) and choose OpenRC.
The standard installer does an excellent job.
Just know that Excalibur has implemented the "usr-merge" already. This makes a dist-upgrade v5 to v6 a bit tricky. Read the notes and instructions.
Good luck!
#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-06 08:27:35
Welcome here to the Devan-community
You talk about strange phenomenons.
If you use the Devuan development-branch, you are pretty much on your own - it's for developers and testers.
The stable branch is still Devuan Daedalus (5).
There, OpenRC works exceptionally well, but please be reminded that in OpenRC the init program is still from the trusted InitSysV, and only the service-controller (the one who takes care of the daemons) is OpenRC.
I use sometimes Artix (OpenRC) and there the init program is part of OpenRC. And the structures of the logs and their placement is different (more like you show in your post).
Please read the instructions on:
https://www.devuan.org/os/install
A lot of information and help can be found in the documentation there.
Good luck.
#4 Re: Off-topic » Happy Labor Day friends! » 2025-08-30 16:34:07
That big THANKS should go to you (and others), it's amazing all what you do and contribute. Thank you.
Devuan is my best Linux-Distro I have ever used, and the community is really helpful.
BTW: Labour Day here is on May 1st, it depends on the country where you live in. 
#5 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-20 14:38:35
@greenjeans
that's strange, I have tested Excalibur with both, XFCE and Cinnamon and never had such boot-tome error messages about missing ALSA rules... (Tested with OpenRC though, could this make the difference?)
#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-14 16:14:17
@steve_v
thank you very much, steve_v... you are that bright spark to bring light into this mystery.
It's entirely my fault that I recorded the IP address wrongly - I didn't know that.
I've corrected the hosts entry and everything works fine as it should.
I don't know which devil has bitten me to add a leading 0 in an octet.
BTW: I never spat upon NetworkManager. I only tried to understand the problem. Thank you.
#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 18:13:12
Thank you for your hints.
I will pause it here. Once a bright idea comes up, I will try again and let you know.
BTW: the /etc/resolv.conf is not the problem. Name-resolution is working except for the /etc/hosts lookup.
(only local fixed addresses are in there.)
#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 16:22:18
surprise surprise....
Artix (OpenRC, Cinnamon) shows the same problem
Artix (OpenRC, XFCE) does not.
Artix with Cinnamon uses NetworkManager
Artrix with XFCE uses Connman.
Older versions (older Cinnamon and older nm) worked correctly.
Linux Mint did work, but I have not tested the latest version.
Scratching my head... the devil must be hidden somewhere.
#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 14:55:26
@steve_v
here you are a little bit off the problem.
The /etc/resolv.conf is always correct, after every reboot too.
All files, /etc/hosts, /etc/nsswitch.conf are correct.
The ISP box is correctly set up and gives the correct name-server addresses.
I can connect to every Internet-resource without problems.
mDNS resources are found as well.
Only that bloody host-entry "172.22.22.05 colossus.home colossus" in /etc/hosts is ignored.
I have tested with former Devuan releases: no problem
I have tested Artix: no problem
I have tested Linux Mint: no problem.
Next thing I try is to replace network-manager with connman. That's how it works in Artix.
I will keep you posted, be patient, I'm busy.
But anyway, steve_v, thank you for your good intentions.
#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 09:30:34
@rolfie
I see the discrepancy, and I agree with you.
And, the /etc/resolv.conf is not even the problem here.
The /etc/nsswitch.conf is correct too: it states for hosts lookup it should consult the files first (/etc/hosts) and then mdsn and then dns.
That's the point. In that case names in the /etc/hosts file must be resolved as it always did. It does not now.
I see the ultimate outcome..... to remove the network manager. That's okay for a workstation PC, but NOT for a laptop. I fear to have to test a laptop for that reason.
I still wonder if the kernel may be to blame - it goes beyond my understanding.
#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 07:15:45
Oh, it looks like the kernel version is important:
root@tinkerbox:~# lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Devuan
Description: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres)
Release: 6
Codename: excalibur ceres
root@tinkerbox:~#
root@tinkerbox:~# uname -a
Linux tinkerbox 6.12.38+deb13-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.12.38-1 (2025-07-16) x86_64 GNU/Linux
root@tinkerbox:~# And the rest of all information in one block:
root@tinkerbox:~# ifconfig
eth0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 172.22.22.60 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 172.22.22.255
inet6 fe80::c42c:d3ce:d1e1:f30f prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
ether 70:54:d2:ab:5e:4e txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 179 bytes 109589 (107.0 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 215 bytes 25830 (25.2 KiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
device interrupt 20 memory 0xf7e00000-f7e20000
eth1: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether 70:54:d2:ab:5e:4f txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
device interrupt 18 memory 0xf7d00000-f7d20000
lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host>
loop txqueuelen 1000 (Local Loopback)
RX packets 31 bytes 4263 (4.1 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 31 bytes 4263 (4.1 KiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
root@tinkerbox:~# netstat -r
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
default 172.22.22.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
172.22.22.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
root@tinkerbox:~# hostname
tinkerbox
root@tinkerbox:~# cat /etc/networks
default 0.0.0.0
loopback 127.0.0.0
link-local 169.254.0.0
root@tinkerbox:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 213.221.144.240
nameserver 213.221.143.240
***********************************
root@tinkerbox:~# ping www.google.com
PING www.google.com (142.250.178.196) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from pnzrha-aj-in-f4.1e100.net (142.250.178.196): icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=22.8 ms
64 bytes from pnzrha-aj-in-f4.1e100.net (142.250.178.196): icmp_seq=2 ttl=116 time=25.9 ms
root@tinkerbox:~# ping colossus
ping: colossus: Name or service not known
root@tinkerbox:~# ping colossus.home
ping: colossus.home: Name or service not known
root@tinkerbox:~# ping printer.home
ping: printer.home: Name or service not known
root@tinkerbox:~# ping printer
PING printer (172.22.22.12) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from printer (172.22.22.12): icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.637 ms
64 bytes from printer (172.22.22.12): icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.650 ms
64 bytes from printer (172.22.22.12): icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.646 ms
64 bytes from printer (172.22.22.12): icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=0.638 ms
// what a surprise! The printer gets resolved by mDNS //
***********************************
# /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
# If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try:
# `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.
passwd: files
group: files
shadow: files
gshadow: files
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
networks: files
protocols: db files
services: db files
ethers: db files
rpc: db files
netgroup: nis
root@tinkerbox:~# #12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-13 07:02:50
Thank you for your responses and questions.
@g4sra
root@tinkerbox:~# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.1.1 tinkerbox.home tinkerbox
172.22.22.05 colossus.home colossus
172.22.22.12 printerI only added the last 2 lines.
@Altoid
Yes, it's quite possible it will come to that, but: NetworkManager shouldn't affect /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts or any of these files, except, unfortunately, the /etc/resolv.conf file.
@both
Would you like to get all network information? I could put it in an extra response.
Again, that problem never appeared in previous releases.
#13 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Devuan 6 excalibur, OpenRC, networking, /etc/hosts ingnored » 2025-08-12 15:21:06
- Andre4freedom
- Replies: 14
Hello,
testing the latest iso, devuan-excalibur_6.0-20250809_amd64_netinstall.iso,
I ran into a problem:
The file /etc/hosts is simply ignored.
This happened while testing both DEs: XFCE4 and Cinnamon.
It is a standard installation with no tinkering. Standard Linux-utilities and ssh-server always selected too.
The problem did not show up when testing the previous pre-releases, and never showed up with any former Devuan release (3,4,5).
The problems doesn't manifest when testing Artix-OpenRC-XFCE.
I just edit the /etc/hosts file to test.
/etc/resolv.conf and other networking details are all correct by default.
Internet access and even CUPS-driverless-printing works correctly.
Strange.
I know that NetworkManager is always installed by default.
Has anyone encountered that bug as well?
#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to lookup printer drivers in CUPS? » 2025-08-07 08:17:26
Brother_MFC_J5340DW working perfectly well here.
No drivers installed at all.
Devuan5 (Daedalus) with CUPS and IPP
implicitclass://Brother_MFC_J5340DW/
Brother MFC-J5340DW, driverless, cups-filters 1.28.17
Just connect the printer to the local network, set it up, and off you go.
Chances are that your chosen model will work that way.
#15 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] repo excalibur down? » 2025-07-31 14:59:57
Oh, once again:
Many ISP's DNS-servers can't cope with these "round-robin" structures of repo-servers.
The solution was always to prepend the address deb.devuan.org with the country-code of your nearest repo-mirror, as in your case ch.deb.devuan.org.
I don't know what component in ISP's infrastructure is the culprit. But when using your own properly set up BIND/DNS server the problem doesn't occur.
Test by using ping before modifying your sources.list.
There are some threads on this topic in the forum already
#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Good X11 environment for laptops? Plasma 6 is not ideal » 2025-07-11 11:45:04
Just a hint:
https://www.debugpoint.com/cinnamon-5-8-features/
Devuan Excalibur is at Cinnamon v. 6.4
Devuan Daedalus at 5.6
Good luck.
#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Good X11 environment for laptops? Plasma 6 is not ideal » 2025-07-11 11:22:10
Sorry, here I'm lost. I should first get to know what a three finger gesture is. I use mostly a desktop computer and a laptop only when out of office.
#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Good X11 environment for laptops? Plasma 6 is not ideal » 2025-07-11 07:57:15
Cinnamon works perfectly well on Devuan 5 (Daedalus) and Excalibur, and all this on X11 (Xorg).
XFCE works as well, but Cinnamon is the way to go when looking for comfort. All this "out-of-the-box" - and can be tweaked too.
I have no intention to burn my fingers with Wayland.
#19 Re: DIY » ALSA-only purists: Question, new GUI app for the mixer and EQ? » 2025-07-02 18:29:00
Hello greenjeans,
Understanding your question perfectly, have you looked for these tools:
- alsamixergui
- alsa-tools-gui
I'm quite interested in your project.
Good luck!
Greetings, andre
#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Canon LBP6020 » 2025-06-28 17:01:29
My slogan is: stay away from Canon printers.
I bought one once, a day later I donated it to a Windows user.
If you are lucky and the printer has a network interface, you can reset it to factory-defaults and try use the CUPS driverless printing system.
Some years ago, I was able to connect a Canon printer (can't remember the model) to the network and it worked right away with Linux Mint, without any fiddling with configuration, drivers or installation. It just worked, printer and scanner. The same goes for Devuan5 (Daedalus). Standard desktop install.
I had very good results with Brother MFC printers, and HP as well.
Good luck
#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] anacron and OpenRC, Devuan 3, 4, 5, 6 (Excalibur) » 2025-06-20 08:59:15
Hello Devuan-ers
Good news: I tested the very latest release of Devuan Excalibur 6.0-20250617_amd64 (netinstall)
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_excalib … nstall.iso
under the same conditions: Standard-install, Cinnamon, OpenRC.
Result: The problem with shutdown no longer appears.
I will continue to test upcoming releases and report it back with a new thread should the problem show up again.
So I close this one now.
Be happy and have a good day
#22 Re: Off-topic » GNOME is taking the scum bag approach still... » 2025-06-19 14:15:13
Wayland breaks professional software, that's bad enough:
https://linuxiac.com/kicad-advises-linu … cb-design/
I used kicad quite a lot. So wayland is a no. X is and will be.
#23 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-14 17:30:02
I started a new thread for that bug:
#24 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] anacron and OpenRC, Devuan 3, 4, 5, 6 (Excalibur) » 2025-06-14 17:28:06
- Andre4freedom
- Replies: 1
There is (or was?) a long-time-bug.
I installed the latest devuan_excalibur_6.0-20250605_amd64_netinstall.iso to test it.
What a pleasure. Everything works out of the box, no tinkering - so far.
But, still, the same old bug has made it to excalibur:
I choose OpenRC as the init system, and anacron then prevents to shutdown orderly after reboots later on.
The problem was there already in Devuan 3, 4, 5....
I tested a fresh install with the InitSysV and that worked well, no anacron problem.
I usually get rid of the problem by just removing anacron.
1. Test: Excalibur, OpenRC, Cinnamon Desktop: The problem is real
2. Test: Excalibur, InitSysV, Cinnamon Desktop: No problem anymore(?!)
3. Test: Excalibur, OpenRC, GNOME Desktop: Still the problem
Since Excalibur is being readied, I wanted to ensure the old bug gets solved.
I decided to test more and then file a bug. For this I started some fresh-installs today, using the same iso,
Of course, I always include Devuan-mirrors to be up-to-date.
4. Test: Excalibur, OpenRC, XFCE Desktop: No problem anymore(?!)
5. Test: Excalibur, OpenRC, Cinnamon Desktop: No problem anymore(?!)
Bizarre, yesterday the bug was still there in the installation from yesterday.
Has something changed? I don't dare to file a bug now.
The problem has been consistently there with the last 3 releases of Devuan, always with OpenRC, sometimes Cinnamon DE, sometimes XFCE DE.
I wonder if that sounds familiar to somebody.
#25 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-13 16:05:17
I'm not sure if that post belongs here..... feel free to correct me.
I installed your latest devuan_excalibur_6.0-20250605_amd64_netinstall.iso
What a pleasure. Everything works out of the box, no tinkering.
But, still, the same old problem has made it to excalibur:
I chose OpenRC as the init system, and anacron still prevents to shutdown orderly.
The problem was there already; Devuan 3, 4, 5....
I tested a fresh install with the InitSysV and that works well, no anacron problem.
Where should I report that problem?
(cron never posed a problem, only anacron does)
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