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#1 Re: Other Issues » Packages version (suggestion) » Today 14:34:32

Oh, just now I see golinux's answer. Cool.

#2 Re: Other Issues » Packages version (suggestion) » Today 14:33:00

A true word.... Devuan may consider to just offer something like firefox-fresh or libreoffice-fresh in their repos.
It happened a few times to me that some crucial (to us) WEB-sites suddenly stop to work because of firefox-esr.
I had to download firefox from and install it their way, which works very well. And then, I still prefer firefox to every other browser there is.
Just a thought.

#3 Re: Installation » X11 problem with Daedalus » Today 10:05:50

Have you considered a standard Daedalus install (desktop-iso 5.01) and not choosing Expert, but standard install? You still can choose what DE and which software-packages to install.
Might be an easier approach to get your Lenovo running Devuan Daedalus. And don't forget to read the docs before posting.
Hope it helps.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » time at Devuan xfce not synced with bios » 2024-05-15 14:54:18

just install ntpsec:

$ sudo apt install ntpsec

It does all you need, syncs your clock with debian's ntp pool.
Check with

$ sudo ntpq -p

Just if you wonder: Configfile = /etc/ntpsec/ntp.conf

#5 Re: Documentation » Printer and Scanner from Brother - Get them to work under Devuan 5 » 2024-05-12 09:01:51

Wow, good information.  Thank you.
This seems to be for Brother-MFC devices connected using USB cables - right?

Just in case the printer is connected to the local network (LAN):

In Devuan 4 (Chimaera):
Printing: nothing to do. (CUPS and related network-protocols work right away.
Scanning an initial config step was required:

1. Download the Brother Scanner Config Tool: brscan5-1.2.13-0.amd64.deb
2. Install it with GDebi Package Installer
3. Go to /opt/brother/scanner/brscan5
4. ./brsaneconfig5 -q
5. ./brsaneconfig5 -d
6. ./brsaneconfig5 -a name=MFC-J5340DW-br model=MFC-J5340DW -s
(Give it a distinctive name in order to find it in the Document scanner!)

Tested, 01-AUG-2023.

Now, with Devuan 5 (Daedalus)
Nothing at all had to be done, no configuration, no adding software.
Printing: everything works strait away. Provided CUPS with all networking is installed
Scanning: everything works strait away. Not even a initial config-step was required.

I prefer to give the MFC device a dedicated IP address, but with Daedalus I saw it worked with a dynamic IP address as well.

#6 Re: Installation » devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso installation freezes » 2024-04-26 09:54:43

There is not much information in your description to help you really.
Just make sure that:
1. Your BIOS/EFI setup is correct (set it to factory defaults and disable secure-boot (EFI) to start with)
2. Your install media is ok (CD/DVD read errors or problems, good USB-sticks) and be sure the checksum of your downloaded iso is okay
3. Your disk is working properly (do a low-level format in case...)
4. Let the installer propose a good disk-geometry (it does)
5. And of course, your computer is fault-free - I suppose (mem-tests, CPU-tests okay?) in the very first place.
Good luck.

#7 Re: Other Issues » Another security concern » 2024-04-22 08:40:06

These portable application formats are a security concern indeed.
So the security-aware and -conscious would stay away from them, certainly on the main system, and only allow software from the original stable Devuan-repos (not the testing or experimental repos!!) to be applied to your system.
If you want to test such external sources, then it's best done in VMs, they are quite well isolated from the host system.
Fooling around with resources made available to VMs can hamper the security of your host system.
I always trust to Devuan sources and some well trusted external, Linux-friendly applications.
I'm not a security expert, but looong Unix and Linux experience made me quite confident to know some very good rules.

#8 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Shutdown fails due to NFS mounts failing to unmount (resolved: autofs) » 2024-04-17 15:01:44

Fantastic! Thank you very much, fsmithred.
I will use it.....
Have a good evening (or a good day, depending where you live...)

#9 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Shutdown fails due to NFS mounts failing to unmount (resolved: autofs) » 2024-04-17 07:45:01

This happened to me all time, with every version of Devuan, but only when my laptop was/is connected by wifi (wlan).
I always use OpenRC and Cinnamon, and now I'm on Daedalus.
It happens when you mount your NFS resources over a wifi link. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN WHEN YOU ARE CONNECTED BY LAN (Ethernet).
So typically you will encounter the problem with laptops.

My solution is simple: On a laptop, I unmount all NFS resources before shutdown.
BTW: I'm very fond of Daedalus, or Devuan in general.

#10 Re: Other Issues » should I use unattended-upgrades? » 2024-04-13 15:40:23

Just my 2 cents:
I would stay away from automatic updates, most certainly avoid them on servers.
To run stable is a very good thing.
Not too long ago there came a kernel update - one which had to be corrected rapidly after detecting a regression or security-problem. The corrected kernel was available some 2 or 3 days afterwards.
So doing updates manually and periodically, you have a chance to avoid these kind of problems. I suggest to follow the dev1galaxy forum and act sensibly. That's what I do.
On remote servers, one will be sure the updates are right and work well. So a test on a local server beforehand is advised.

#11 Re: Devuan » liblzma CVE-2024-3094 » 2024-04-07 18:05:50

In daedalus the dependency resolves to:

liblzma5 -->
5.4.1-0.2 daedalus/main amd64

So no danger, stick to daedalus and no fancy experimental repos. (Only if you are a developer)

#12 Re: Forum Feedback » "Security" section » 2024-04-07 08:36:03

It's a good idea, I agree.
Just the facts.... would be nice.
And as a reminder: staying firmly with Devuan "stable", Daedalus as of now, kept you well on the safe side.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] CLI throughput test for Linux » 2024-03-22 14:06:37

This is all very well and right, but--- there is a caveat:
I did intense bandwidth-testing in a InfiniBand environment for HPC:
We did the testing with ssh/scp and the like and were surprised be the "bad" results. We then realized that the encryption/decryption took too much processing power from the CPUs slowing down the transmission rate. Repeating the tests with rcp (old Unix r-tools) showed correct results.
But InfiniBand speeds cannot be compared to normal Internet transmission rates, so the encryption/decryption process might not influence your results much.
Tests were done in 2009-2010 in a supercomputing lab using CentOS and InfiniBand 4Gbps and 10Gbps networks.
Just my 2 cents to it....

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] CLI throughput test for Linux » 2024-03-22 11:53:01

I used it in the past, and it was quite reliable.
I was happy to use just the WEB-application using my browser (Linux).

But of course, the CLI version would be the thing to use if no WEB browser was available.
Have fun, and good luck!

#15 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Want to use startx instead of slim » 2024-03-16 10:59:38

Oh, I see, @fsmithread,
you were 1 minute and 1 sec quicker than I was.
Thanks. smile

#16 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Want to use startx instead of slim » 2024-03-16 10:55:38

In the past, with initsysv, there used to be a file /etc/inittab.
Therin are the lines :

# The default runlevel.

Change it to

# The default runlevel.

And your system will start up to runlevel 1 (no graphics, kind of single-user mode.

This file exists in Devuan 5 (Daedalus) with my OpenRC as the init system. I don't know how about Runit.

And, besides, you can always come back to a text console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or F2 or...) and then type (as root)

init 1

That's old Unix school.  Good luck.

#17 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Beowulf to Chimaera - precautions » 2024-03-08 16:44:25

Thank you, codeberg worked right away.

To come back to system backup / restore / cloning, I have posted information about some efficient methods here: … ods-v3.pdf

Oh, BTW: if you find issues in this textual information, please let me know! Thanks!

I hope it works and helps!
Have a good weekend!

#18 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Beowulf to Chimaera - precautions » 2024-03-08 08:25:27


You can create an account at our and post your document there then link to it as appropriate . . .

I tried several times, and could never get the password setting/confirmation/forgot-password-recovery thing working....
I give up with git. (
I have the "neutralized" document about disk-cloning for any system ready and can send it wherever you wish. Possibly for review, discarding if worthless, editing if somebody wishes so.. Just to be sure: the procedure was used professionally to deploy courses and also for migration and test-scenarios.
Sincerely, Andre4freedom

#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Beowulf to Chimaera - precautions » 2024-03-04 08:55:03

Where can I post a file with information about developed, tested and tried backup-restore methods for partitions and also for complete disks?
Just a hint: all you need is a bootable linux  rescue- or live- CD/DVD/image. You would end up with an accurate disk-image an an external disk or tape
It's 3 pages of text information, a pdf file. BTW: it worked for Linux, Windows, DOS and you-know-what OSs.

Gnome-dosk-utility might work, but I never tested it thoroughly.

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] HP printer on Daedelus » 2024-02-29 17:38:20

when you install hplip and hplip-gui, you will be a happy person.
Devuan (Daedalus) should be quite up-to-date with respect to the CUPS version.
The hplip package delivers you all .ppd files required for your printer
The hplip-gui package adds some comfort for tasks like check ink-levels, settings, scan, print etc.
In very rare cases you need to install a specific .ppd file, which should be available at HPs web-site.
This has worked well the last ~15+ years. Now I switched to Brother printers. No drives and installation needed. What a bliss.
BTW, with HP networked printers that should work as well. Now even some Canon networked printers can be used with Linux - without installing extra software.

#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] In firefox a google popup asking to remember my password, how to stop? » 2024-02-23 08:36:37

In the Firefox "Settings" menu, go to "Privacy & Security", "Logins and Passwords" section : "Ask to save logins and passwords for web sites" and uncheck the box. Autofill should be un-checked too.

#23 Re: Devuan » Thank you » 2024-02-01 10:51:54

I want to join the concert, or the chorale:
Thank you Devuan development team, maintainers and
thanks to the forum team
and even thanks to the users that use the forum for friendly and respectful questions and answers.

I can only repeat: use Devuan "stable" and you will get all the best of stability, usefulness and sense (what Linux should be about) smile
Developers will certainly use and develop for the testing and developing branch.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-01-31 17:53:42

the message in question comes from this init script: /etc/init.d/kmod
This script is not started by OpenRC in my system, but other scripts call it. (eudev, mount-configfs)
I wouldn't worry about the message, it's not related to slim or apparmor.

To remove slim:

$ sudo apt remove slim

Good luck!

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] OpenRC warning during screen log at rebooting or turning off pc » 2024-01-31 16:23:45

That's right, it makes sense to remove the slim package after switching to lightdm (which I recommend anyway).
For the shutdown warning message, I have that one too, I just ignore it. It's not an error.
Another service that makes no sense to me is anacron, since it mostly holds up the shutdown process. Cron is installed by default and it serves my needs well.
I just disabled it:

sudo rc-update delete anacron

Removing apparmor can be sensible too, if you install applications foreign to the specific distribution.
BTW I use OpenRC and I'm very happy with it.
I hope it helps a bit. Greetings.

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