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#1 Re: Other Issues » Book buying » 2024-10-01 16:12:09

@devur
your book in question seems perfectly good; I just had a brief look (4th ed).
It's intended for SysAdmins and it covers most of what should be covered. I like it.
It's just: huge

#2 Re: Other Issues » Book buying » 2024-10-01 10:03:56

For a very basic, but accurate and instructive lecture,
all of them distro-neutral, you could check and try these:

Running Linux: A Distribution-Neutral Guide for Servers and Desktops 5th Edition

Linux Network Administrator's Guide: Infrastructure, Services, and Security 3rd Edition

DNS and BIND: Help for System Administrators 5th Edition

Possibly your most helpful link:
https://tldp.org/guides.html

--> Bash Guide for Beginners
--> Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide
--> The Linux System Administrators' Guide

I based the Linux courses i developed on these resources as well.
Have a look.

#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-16 07:22:38

Report from another place:
Now away from that nice place where I spent a week, and back home to my environment:
deb.devuan.org resolves as it is supposed to and everything works. Great.
Ping, apt update and Co. all do well.

The provider of that other place is the most widely used here in our country, and usually their networks just work. Sort of. But f you have a problem, don't try to get support, even paid-for support.
I was the unlucky one who had to use that unfortunate router/network with no access to whatever equipment of it.

So my first question was: is there something wrong. Well, there was: the provider's equipment.
And all of you were quick to confirm that deb.devuan.org works well.
Devuan is great and always was. As is the Devuan-community.

Thank you all for your suggestions. Lovely.

#4 Re: Documentation » Some question about the great Devuan » 2024-09-14 08:01:19

Dear Unixuser,
as a unix user, you would certainly know the InitSysV, it's the default in Devuan. But you can choose OpenRC during the installation. If you are familiar with, what holds you back? It's my favourite and I'm happy with it.
Another remark: it's a mighty bad idea to install packages from Ceres when you use Daedalus, see the remarks from quickfur. Always stick to the chosen release.
If firefox-esr is not what you want, then you can install the tar.gz file from the Mozilla download site:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/download/thanks/
firefox-130.0.tar.bz2. I always use the 64bit version. There are instructions to follow. Ideally put the extracted files into /opt/firefox.
Make your own desktop-launchers..... some fiddling required, but all subsequent updates are painless and easy.
Good luck. (an old Unix pro of olden times)

#5 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-14 07:44:06

@chris2be8
Thank you for your suggestion.
The problem is: to check with this ISP is absolutely hopeless.
I would waste my time with them.
I will tell how it works in other places, next week.
Have a nice weekend. André

#6 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-13 13:11:40

@Altoid
I temporarily disabled the NetworkManager to acquire the DNS address from the local DHCP server, and set the nameserver to 8.8.8.8, as you requested.
After restarting the network-manager, for the first time deb.devuan.org was resolved by a ping request! Thanks a lot!

Now I reset the default Network-Manager configuration, and deb.devuan.org is not resolved again.
That proves that nothing is wrong with deb.devuan.org, nor with my workstation.

The local ISP provides the DNS service by the means of that cable-modem box, and the culprit really is the ISP.
Just as a side note: deb.debian.org was always resolved correctly by ping queries.

That concludes the matter and I thank you all for your hints and kind suggestions.
I will close the case.
Have a great weekend! with or without snow ;-)
André

#7 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-12 22:43:07

@altoid, @chris2be8
These tests don't change the result. NetworkManager resets the resolv.conf file to the old value at restart.
It must be the ISP's problem. I'm actually on holiday, hence at another location.

No further analysis is required. I will report back next week.
Thank you all, greetings, Andre

#8 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-12 15:43:49

Sure:

andre@yokohama:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf 
# Generated by NetworkManager
search home
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver XXXX.XXXX.XXXX.XXXX.XXXX.XXXX.XXXX
andre@yokohama:~$ 

#9 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-12 12:54:48

nslookup shows:

andre@yokohama:~$ nslookup deb.devuan.org
Server:		192.168.1.1
Address:	192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
deb.devuan.org	canonical name = deb.rr.devuan.org.
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 190.64.49.124
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 160.16.137.156
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 185.178.192.43
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 198.58.118.8
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 125.228.189.120
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 94.16.114.15
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 185.236.240.103
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 106.178.112.231
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 5.161.180.234
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 67.219.104.166
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 202.61.197.17
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 185.183.113.131
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 131.188.12.211
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 147.78.194.22
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 195.85.215.180
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 103.146.168.12
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 95.216.15.86
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 200.236.31.1
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 46.4.50.2
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 130.225.254.116
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 141.84.43.19
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a01:4f9:2a:fa9::2
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2801:82:80ff:8000::2
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a01:4f8:140:1102:2b76:955d:b48f:bdf3
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2001:878:346::116
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2001:4ca0:4300::1:19
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2800:a8:c001::a
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2001:e42:102:1704:160:16:137:156
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a03:4000:28:24c::
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a0d:eb00:8006::acab
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 240b:10:f00:1b00::240
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a01:4ff:f0:dd3a::1
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2401:c080:2000:229e:4b70:fe82:36ed:f788
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a03:4000:59:123:68cc:97ff:fee1:c81
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a0a:e5c0:10:3::6eeb
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2a01:9e40::180
Name:	deb.rr.devuan.org
Address: 2407:b6c0::12

andre@yokohama:~$

traceroute never responds:

andre@yokohama:~$ traceroute deb.devuan.org

As I wrote: every address responds well with the only exception of deb.org.devuan.
I can live with the situation, but I will try again next weekend when I will be at another place, physically.
Then I will report back. Thanks to you all for your good will.

Oh, after a long while traceroute came back with some answer:

andre@yokohama:~$ traceroute deb.devuan.org
deb.devuan.org: Name or service not known
Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `deb.devuan.org' on position 1 (argc 1)
andre@yokohama:~$ 

funny, isn't it?

#10 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-12 07:56:19

Thank you all for your response.
Using deb.rr.devuan.org works perfectly well, as do all (most) other mirrors as well.
deb.devuan.org remains blocking, wondering why.
@Altoid: I have no connman and no dnsproxy installed, I always use the standard network-manager as it comes with the Cinnamon-environment.
Anyway, thank you for your kind help.
Have a good day!
Andre

#11 Installation » [SOLVED] deb.devuan.org doesn't respond » 2024-09-11 15:29:12

Andre4freedom
Replies: 24

Hello,
since a few days "apt update" no longer works, meaning deb.devuan.org does not respond to apt update, and to ping neither.
All other update repos do work normally.
I have modified sources.list to make it work.
fr.deb.devuan.org, ch.deb.devuan.org, de.deb.devuan.org, us.deb.devuan.org all work well.
Is there something wrong?

#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Install/activate Printer in Devuan » 2024-09-05 14:18:38

Have you tried installing
- cups
- hplip
- hplip-gui
with all it's dependencies?

#13 Re: Other Issues » Disappearing files » 2024-08-31 14:26:48

Such things can, but should not happen, in cases where you have a system-crash while editing a file, or at least when it was opened for writing.
Since you have an ext3 filesystem, which is the first release oft ext filesystems that is a journaling filesystem by default, it's less likely to happen. But it's not guaranteed in all situations. fsck and other repair tools can wipe such accident-files. Check in /lost+found directory of the concerned filesytemm. It's the place for recovered blocks.

And: tools that sync or snpashot filesystems for backup, can delete files in the backup volume if the file is no longer present in the source filesystem. Check the options.

Man pages and a bit of study of the tools and systems used can well remove some spookiness.
Good luck.

PS: pulling the power-plug or removing a mounted external disk suddenly can be considered system-crashes as well.

#14 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-29 08:18:20

@golinux
The information is good, thank you.
Are you aware though, firefox would not want to download the text file over security risks? (http)
You can still see the content in a firefox-tab.

Have a good day, greetings.

#15 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 5 not booting. » 2024-08-18 09:14:54

rolfie's last comment is absolutely right and perfect.
I would just add, as a measure to make sure it works: erase the disk beforehand and let the installer do a fresh partitioning. Meaning the installer will decide what disk-layout architecture to choose. Most probably it will be GPT.
You can do it manually, if you know what you do and what you should do.

#16 Re: Off-topic » Secure Boot probably not as secure as users would prefer » 2024-07-26 17:34:15

First there was a BIOS to boot a system - history
Then came EFI, a firmware that allows to do with other architectures and other, bigger disk layouts. That was welcome.
Then came MS: "embrace and extend!" to exclude all other solutions and manufacturers.

The "UE" in UEFI (former EFI) means User-Extensible or something like that. It implements "Secure Boot", which helps Microsoft to lock out all competitors or OSes. Now Microsoft will "sign" kernels and other software.
They tried first to make the "Secure Boot" option mandatory in the EFI-setup, but thank god the mainboard manufacturer objected to that, and got support from some authorities.

The SystemD-crowd (L.P. and others) suggest to render the MS-type boot-process the default in the Linux-world. How is that??

#17 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (howTo) hibernate after automatic install? » 2024-07-23 14:08:42

@kapqa
please be reminded that Ubuntu is a systemd based distribution and Devuan is not.
There are important differences here. Devuan has replaced all systemd-dependent components with very reasonable alternatives.
So please read the installation instructions, readme-s, and all related important text.

To use hibernation, the swap-partition must be at least a bit bigger than your RAM in the computer.
Elogind is just a replacement for the systemd-related logind - afaik.
I can tell you if you perform a standard installation (devuan desktop) you will most certainly get a well working system.
Also: I had very good results every-time with Devuan - OpenRC - Cinnamon or XFCE, on most of the hardware I tested.
And again: RTFM! (Read The Fascinating Manuals)

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Directory question. » 2024-07-14 08:36:08

@pl
right you are, and /srv it was.
It makes sense. Most important: keeping it as a separate partition mounted on a mountpoint (/srv).
All of you, have a great day. wink

#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Directory question. » 2024-07-13 15:42:06

Hello,
It's technically possible. But:
I always used a dedicated partition mounted on /server for such uses.
For example :

/server/web/
/server/web/http/
/server/web/python/
/server/ftp/
/server/whatever-db/

etc,
That way your web services will never fill up your root filesystem, and it was usual to do so with all kinds of Enterprise Linux Distros.
But my experience with that is 10+ years old. Possibly new habits did appear?
Just my considerations..... hope it is meaningful.

PS: in fact, it's just another name, but it's on its own partition or filesystem.

#20 Re: Installation » Grub problem on HP Zbook with SSD HD » 2024-07-04 08:05:39

@amc252
don't even think of trying such a thing! No mixing of disk-layout architectures on a disk.

Legacy-mode:
- The BIOS hat to be in legacy mode (BIOS-mode)
- The disk layout can and should be in classical MBR format

EFI/UEFI-mode:
- The BIOS has to be in EFI (UEFI) mode
- The disk layout should be in GPT mode
- To avoid MS lock-in, DISABLE SECURE BOOT

You cannot mix the disk-modes. Changing the mode makes you lose all data on disk.
That is valid for HP laptops as well, I owned one, and old Elite Pro business notebook.

#21 Re: Installation » Grub problem on HP Zbook with SSD HD » 2024-07-03 15:49:22

It's bizarre, I have a brand new Dell Latitude 5540 notebook computer with such a M2 "PCIe Gen4 x4 NVMe," SSD drive, and GRUB on this device was no problem.
I have 2 Linux systems in dual-boot mode, the main one is Devuan 5, the other Linux Mint 21.3 (just for support to others).
When received, I directly set up the UEFI-BIOS to default values and switched off the "Secure Boot" option. Then I wiped the disk and installed both Linux systems without any snag or hitches.
I believe that your computer came with Windows pre-installed in UEFI-Secure-Boot mode. If possible, try to re-install Windows with Secure-Boot disabled in UEFI setup first, and then install your Devuan behind it. Secure-Boot is a free ticket to hell. It binds you firmly to Microsoft or at least to big-money corporate Linux.
In my case, I installed a Windows in a VM on my Devuan installation (KVM) for just that one and only damned windows-application (audio related) I really need.
I can't advise you any better.
Good luck.

#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox broken? » 2024-07-01 07:30:56

Of course, it's the "sites" that are broken. But Firefox-fresh can cope with them, Firefox-esr cannot.
Good luck to file complaints to those corporate WEB-sites.... I can imagine the outcome.

#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox broken? » 2024-06-30 08:00:15

@chris2be8
Switzerland.
But firefox-esr was definitely the problem. Firefox-"fresh" really resolves the issue.

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox broken? » 2024-06-29 15:13:33

I had the same problem with some websites, and e-banking too, (Devuan 5 Daedalus, FF esr, all updated).
It used to work well, and more and more web sites started to not work correctly or at all, any-more.
Chromium did work.
So I decided to install the firefox .deb package directly from Mozilla's download page - and all worked well again.
I guess web designers include new things to their web-sites that require fresher web-browsers.
But anyway, Chromium from Devuan's Daedalus repo does work well.

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Xfce panel transparency not working » 2024-06-08 09:18:35

Yes, indeed,
I just now see your 2 messages.... but yes, I encountered the same problem with transparency and could do nothing about it.
Now, thank you for the hint with compton, I will try it the next time I configure a box with xfce.
On my work-horses (daily machines) I use lightdm and Cinnamon, and I'm very happy with it.
But lightdm with xfce looks very appealing to me, specially when the panel transparency works again. Thank you.

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