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#1 Re: Off-topic » AI in Firefox or Waterfox » 2025-12-20 10:15:10

@all
Thank you for your ideas!
Your answers are helpful and I test FF again with your recommendations, in parallel with testing waterfox.
Have a nice weekend!

#2 Off-topic » AI in Firefox or Waterfox » 2025-12-19 16:33:55

Andre4freedom
Replies: 9

I just fell on a interesting topic:
Is Mozilla doing enough to avoid AI if not desired?
See the following article:

https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/18/ … _waterfox/

I decided to test it for a while. What's your take?

#3 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] printer » 2025-12-14 15:28:47

Have a look in your repos for the packages:
hplip
hplip-gui

(incl. all dependencies)

If there, install them and start hplip-gui.
Configuring your printer should be child's play then.
That works well with devuan, debian, linuxmint, ubuntu etc.

#4 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] sources.list broken? » 2025-12-12 09:55:19

That's an old problem. It's not the Devuan repos, however.
The problems stem from more and more lousy ISP infrastructure set-ups. Kind of round-robin DNS name resolution doesn't work on them.
The solution is simple:

Exactly,
the same old problem with the resolution of these "round-robin" DNS names resurfaces again and again.
I had to switch from my old, trusty own DNS named server (BIND) to the typical service-provider setup and that made me unhappy again.
The only solution was and is to replace "deb.devuan.org" with somewhat "XY.deb.devuan.org" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file, replacing the XY with the nearest mirror-country-code.
I don't know what HPFM is behind all these silly ISPs.
I'm not good enough to know how the Devuan community could set up a /etc/apt/sources.list file that would remedy the situation for once and ever.

Refer to:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=53413#p53413

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=55385#p55385

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6834

#5 Re: Installation » How set time to local-time in terminal? » 2025-12-09 19:26:57

Sure, rolfie is right.
The computer's HW clock should be set to UTC. And the timezone (TZ) should be selected as to the standards.
When DST patterns change for some time-zones, the corresponding patches will be distributed. Another reason to update regularly.

#6 Re: Installation » How set time to local-time in terminal? » 2025-12-09 16:59:37

And to set ntp right, as you seem to refer to:
it's ntpsec to be installed.
And to check if it works:

ntpq -p

And in devuan 7 ??? These programs are present in Devuan 6 (Excalibur)
ntpdate was for older ditributions, like RedHat etc.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Cifs share is not mountet automatically » 2025-12-07 11:20:27

Roberto,
yes, there is a solution to that problem:
Its the NetworkManager version used in Excalibur.
Look at this thread:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=59374#p59374

The workaround is (from steve_v):

@Andre4freedom: You might try grabbing that missing file (/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01-ifupdown) from the Daedalus network-manager package. Like I said I don't have a system to test it on, but the manual suggests networkmanager should still call it if it exists.

I hope that may be a temporary solution for you too.
I guess there will be a newer or patched network-manager package in some time, possibly a new point-release or a patch.
Good luck.

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] anacron and OpenRC, Devuan 3, 4, 5, 6 (Excalibur) » 2025-12-06 17:24:29

Your solution sounds very reasonable, fair and sound.
So I will switch to sysvinit on the laptop, and just remove or disable anacron on servers and workstations.
I consider the case as closed, though.
Thank you for your input, rolfie.

#9 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] anacron and OpenRC, Devuan 3, 4, 5, 6 (Excalibur) » 2025-12-05 16:10:31

I think I marked the topic as "solved" to early.
With the release of Devuan 6 Excalibur, anacron in combination with OpenRC still causes delays at shutdown - sometimes. Not every-time but still sometimes.
The problem can be worked around by disabling anacron (rc-update delete anacron) or by switching to sysvinit.

#10 Re: Installation » DHCP is always an issue » 2025-11-28 15:07:42

I guess you have tried to install with a netinstall-iso.
Try your luck with a desktop-iso
i.e. https://files.devuan.org/devuan_excalib … esktop.iso
if you really have to install in a public place or library.
Desktop-isos are fully contained isos for standard hardware.

#11 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-10 07:20:50

steve_v:

I am blaming NO one!!
I just want people to avoid the trap of such a case!
I'm no politician and no flamer, so please stay on the subject.
Anyway, you gave me the good hint earlier, thanks for that.

#12 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-09 15:57:11

My last thing I could do to bridge the time until a patched networkmanager goes into the update repos:
Suggestion of a modification of the Release-notes.txt the following way:

$ diff Release_notes.txt Release_notes-ak20251109.txt
14a15
>      + NetworkManager
189a191,201
>
> ### NetworkManager
>
> The new version of networkmanager (debian) doesn't notify the system of
> completed network setup at boot time. (cause: Debian's systemd)
> As a result network-bound resources are no longer mounted as instructed by
> /etc/fstab at boot time.
> To make it happen again, simply copy a file into the networkmanager's directory.
> The version tested and working is the one from Devuan Daedalus.
>     sudo cp 01-ifupdown /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/
> After a reboot everything should be up again.
$

I have no idea where such a suggestion is to be posted. I think Devuan's administrators could come to the rescue.
Thank you.
Andre

#13 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-09 10:46:26

To steve_v, ralph.ronnquist, fsmithred:

There is news about our config NetworkManager-OpenRC-Cinnamon: the differences between Devuan Excalibur and Artix.
See the differences in the following reports I have just written:
Excalibur:
https://pastebin.com/4CcBTkEV

Artix:
https://pastebin.com/3KuU9mUy

In the Artix test-install (~6 month old), there is a additional file in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1213 May 14  2021 10-openrc-status

And the version of networkmanager is networkmanager 1.54.1-1
The result is that NFS mounts in /etc/fstab are respected at boot time.
I have the additional file here should you be interested.

I will send the same information to the devuan networkmanager maintainer.
Have a lovely Sunday. Greetings, André.

#14 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-07 14:07:23

So, to complete the information, here it is:

Bugreport
https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=925

So then until an Excalibur patch comes out with future updates, we will have to do as steve_v suggested. I'm happy with that.
I think that what was asked for.
Greetings,
andre4freedom

#15 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-06 17:00:31

Fsmithred,

I have just done that. Thank you.
Bugreport sent.

Shall I mark the case as solved?

Thank you for your suggestions and help, to all!

#16 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-06 13:34:52

And just a little side-note:
Due to the situation I installed temporarily Linux Mint 22.2 to be able to work. This morning was the first time that my machine hung, just freezed, X11, text consoles, keyboard, mouse - all dead. That machine has never ever done that with Devuan running all these years. How happy I am to re-install Devuan - with your fix. You see, Devuan is worth making the effort and taking a few extra steps to resolve issues.
Happy Devuan

#17 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-06 13:25:43

@steve_v
You are true hero, you have nailed it.
I did as you suggested and placed that script /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01-ifupdown to the right place and rebooted. And sure enough: BINGO.
Thank you for that precious hint.

@ralph.ronnquist
I did the tests on a spare machine, doing a fresh-install with the excalibur-netinstall-iso and running the the devuan installer's first option: install
Test 1:  Excalibur - Cinnamon - OpenRC
Test 2:  Excalibur - Cinnamon - sysvinit
In both cases I just edited the hosts file, the fstab, created the mountpoints and rebooted. In both cases NFS was not mounted.

Copying the famous file /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01-ifupdown from my local server (daedalus)  to the test machine did the trick..
BTW: Editing the /etc/rc.local file didn't change a thing.

Would you like me to write a simple procedure (a text file) how to fix that problem? Then, where could I send it for inclusion to the release readme file?

Unfortunately I'm not able to fix the networkmanager package.

Once again, to all of you: Thank you for your help.
Sincerely, Andre (andre4freedom)

#18 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-05 13:52:00

Thank you, steve_v and ralph.ronnquist!
That shows that something is wrong with the default setup.
I will try to find a solution (not sure if I'm up to it).
When and if solved, I will let you know, and post the solution.
Have a good day, andre4freedom

#19 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-05 10:19:24

@steve_v : Thank you.
I have tried my luck to upload some files. You can find them here (hopefully):

(dmesg):
https://pastebin.com/V3iQa77z

(fstab):
https://pastebin.com/HiGjWMAj

(hosts):
https://pastebin.com/hX8evCQY

(syslog):
https://pastebin.com/UvuWqyVw

(boot-log):
https://pastebin.com/s6tumGik

Thank you for volunteering into that mystery.
Sincerely, Andre4Freedom

#20 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-04 17:10:43

@ralph.ronnquist
I could install excalibur on a spare machine.
Excalibur-openrc-cinnamon-nfs-common

I have extracted 3 log files: dmesg, syslog, boot
Where can I post or send this files?
I found no hints in them at all.

NB, the same problem again, no NFS resource is mounted at boot. But,

sudo mount -a

mounts the all
Thanks for your efforts.

#21 Re: Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-04 14:44:31

Thank you for your reaction, Ralph.
Of course, I have searched the files (dmesg and syslog) for these problems and found not a hint.
I could never get that autofs-thing to work, only a tiny part of it. Sometimes.... So I postpone my research.
I have temporarily switched to Linux Mint. There /etc/fstab still works correctly.
BTW: Daedalus did not show the problem, only excalibur.
I will pick up the task again, later.

I tried with these help-files:
https://thelinuxcode.com/mount-filesyst … ng-autofs/
https://cloudspinx.com/how-to-automatic … th-autofs/

#22 Installation » Excalibur: Mounting NFS shares using /etc/fstab » 2025-11-03 13:40:09

Andre4freedom
Replies: 24

Hello,
has anyone encountered the problem too?
In Daedalus I had entries in /etc/fstab to mount NFS shares from the server at boot, and this worked fine.
No longer in Excalibur. I have tried with OpenRC / Excalibur. I couldn't solve the problem with mount-options nor with sysv-init. Upgrade, Fresh Install, fiddling... no success.
I have to mount (sudo mount -a) after login to access my files.
Just curious..... any hint is appreciated. Thanks.

#23 Re: News & Announcements » Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur! » 2025-11-02 15:21:16

To all the developers, supporters, testers and community: Congratulations and Thank You.
The Devuan-Team is the greatest community I know in the computer-world.
André

#24 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Flash drive weirdness » 2025-10-29 09:16:32

Just some hints:

sudo wipefs --all /dev/sdb 

only wipes all signatures on that disk.

to wipe a disk completely:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb

as root user! And be pretty sure what you do, any targeted disk will be written to, so know that your device is /dev/sdb. You may check with lsblk

Then, when you use a tool like cfdisk or sfdisk or any fdisk, you are going to partition a disk. You then want to install a filesystem on a partition, not the whole disk!
Example:

sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1

sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdbn (n=your new partition number, i.e. /dev/sdb1)

You can format a complete device without any partition on it like /dev/sdb for special uses. This reminds us of olden times when we used floppy disks.

Man pages are there to help!

#25 Re: Off-topic » Web functionality » 2025-10-25 15:29:30

To Peter:
I congratulate you to your initiative.
We have the same phenomenon here in Europe: Banking and most other activities on the Internet using a WEB browser have become worse than painful. Of course, animated functionalities and scripts are to blame. WEB applications are bloated and clumsy to use, and by the extend of it even sometimes dangerous.
I wish you and your communities luck with that petition.

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