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#201 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-18 07:41:10

I have received a reply from Rich Freeman from the Gentoo project but am awaiting permission to post it in this thread. Stay tuned (I hope!)

#202 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-16 16:08:01

freemedia2018 wrote:

i would be very interested in hearing more. if and when you do, naturally.

I shall, of course. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it wink

#203 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-16 05:28:43

Which is why I fired an email towards the Gentoo PR people so we can get an "official response" from Gentoo directly. The email has yet to be answered, but given that it's only 2 days and weekend to boot (s'cuse the (bad) pun tongue ) I'm not too bothered about that, for now.

#205 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-14 23:57:52

freemedia2018 wrote:

steve litt mentioned gentoo today, that wasnt expected.

I've contacted the Gentoo PR people about this to get some official statement from them. (no idea who this steve fellow is btw, do enlighten me if you can smile )

#206 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-11 12:31:07

Ah, thx for clarifying that.

Anyway, I do hope it's clear my preference would be to get Debian to move away from systemd and its lock-in of FOSS, like many here I s'pose, but I'm afraid that won't happen as it's not an option in that ballot sad

#207 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-11 08:17:43

Yup. And reading through the options it's clear that whomever wrote them is obviously intent on getting Debian into the systemd-exclusivity-zone ASAP. Yes, the default option is "more discussion" but only to wear out any pro-init-choice supporters until they give up their resistance or leave the Debian project. Note that the clarification of option 6, which makes it mandatory for Debian dev's to support multiple init-systems, is very, very short indeed, especially in light of the others which favour systemd.

But that's just my interpretation smile

#208 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 05:44:58

The freedom to choose whether or not to run free software and if doing so, which free software. It's a fundamental freedom for FOSS, I'd say it's the very foundation of the whole movement/project/whatever-you-call-it.

#210 Re: ARM Builds » RPi3A+/3B/3B+/(4B) » 2019-11-20 14:59:09

It is, as it's the same with Raspbian: a FAT partition to hold proprietary stuff and a Linux partition (etx3 IIRC) for the remainder.

FYI: I've tried to get Devuan running on the older RPi1 (the original Raspberry Pi) but so far unsuccessfully. Some-one else has shown it works, so there's probably an error on my part. I don't have any newer RPi's.

#211 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [deb.devuan.org] » 2019-11-12 17:30:01

OK, I shall try traceroute if I get round to it on a next update round, whenever I get time for that (long story)

#212 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [deb.devuan.org] » 2019-11-12 06:07:28

No it isn't. This issue has been raised before, so there's probably a small but fundamental error somewhere that has yet to be resolved. I can't solve it, someone more knowledgable should/would/could.

Yesterday I updated my "company-repo", which took a fair while to complete. Yet, no packages were downloaded as apparently, no updates had been made, or at least not processed/mentioned in the various Release files. This is not the first time, that's been going on for weeks now.

#213 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is "Devuan GNU/Linux 1.0 (jessie)" lastest stable version? » 2019-10-27 23:43:40

Open a terminal and do the following, in this order:

sudo su
<enter your password as asked, confirm with enter, likewise the subsequent commands>
apt-get install aptitude
nano /etc/apt/sources.list
<use the arrow keys to navigate, replace all instances you find of jessie to ascii, save the file with Ctrl+o, exit with Ctrl+x>
aptitude
<this invokes the program interactively>
Press the following keys: u, Shift+u, g, g
(yes, press g twice, make sure you give the program time to finish before pressing the next key!)
The program will now update your system, this will take a fair while
When asked, press q then enter to quit aptitude.
reboot

HTH!

#214 Re: Other Issues » Devuan and chroot » 2019-09-02 20:44:15

Obvious: where does /bin/bash lead you? Is it a sym-link to dash or another shell? And why are you mounting proc twice? (typo, I assume wink )

These are the commands Funtoo uses to chroot into a new install:

mount -t proc none proc
mount --rbind /sys sys
mount --rbind /dev dev
env -i HOME=/root TERM=$TERM /bin/chroot . bash -l

HTH!

#215 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to install and configure Roger-Router in Devuan 2 » 2019-08-31 09:51:59

The project webpage is here, even in German so you should be able to follow it wink

https://tabos.gitlab.io/project/rogerrouter/

Which links further to

https://gitlab.com/tabos

As I have no need for the services this program provides (who uses a fax these days!) I can't tell you anything about its functions.

#216 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HP 3830 printer connection » 2019-08-30 20:00:26

Ok, good point for Linux wink  Running th test as root also negates my next problem-solver: can your user access USB devices? I still think there must be some permissions issue here, but then, I can be wrong sad

As for my work setup: just Devuan machines with LibreOffice, the hpijs & hplip packages and CUPS installed, worked pretty much OOTB.

#217 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HP 3830 printer connection » 2019-08-30 18:27:37

Is your normal user part of the lpr group? I.e. can you connect to the device as root? If so, add your user to the lpr group.

As a quick (?) aside: on my work I have a HP3030 happily being shared across a LAN using CUPS. It's connected via USB to a server that also happens to be a printer server. In CUPS I made the printer available for sharing and it shows up on other machines that have the HP driver package installed, as well as CUPS.

#218 Re: Installation » Pi Zero W - How to connect over usb? » 2019-08-28 08:28:20

I've unsuccessfully attempted to use the Devuan RPi images for the RPi1 several times, so I ended up using Raspbian-lite instead. As I'm using this particular RPi in headless mode, systemd is not a overly annoying issue. Using a GUI is rather not recommended though roll

#219 Re: Off-topic » Marginalizing systemd » 2019-08-26 20:58:15

Doesn't RHEL7 come with sysVinit as optional/alternative to systemd? If so, there's your answer wink  Alternatively, building OpenRC might be an option if you deploy the OS on multiple instances of said (embedded) system.

#220 Re: Installation » Disabling or changing size of swap PRIOR to guided install? » 2019-08-26 20:52:32

But there is! If you install Devuan manually on a previously partitioned disk, it'll respect the partition sizes allocated to the various mount-points. This includes SWAP. Admittedly it's an extra step but the sysrescuecd guys offer a nice graphical way to partition and format your system with gparted from the GUI desktop. I don't use encryption (no need as I'm the sole user of my Devuan systems) so can't tell you anything on that.

#221 Re: Installation » Disabling or changing size of swap PRIOR to guided install? » 2019-08-25 22:44:36

On systems where booting from NVMe disk isn't possible, for whatever reason, I'd suggest using the NVMe disk as a cache instead. The system is installed on a 'standard' SSD while the NVMe disk is configured as cache for this SSD. Use the bcache tool from the repo's. And here's the manual: click!

This setup allows the sys-admin to choose any boot configuration and still have the benefits of fast access from the NVMe disk.

HTH!

#223 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Synaptic - Upgrade - Failed to fetch Linux Image 4.9.0-9 AMD64 » 2019-08-16 19:39:43

If you manually download the package from the link provided, does that work for you? If you can, you can install it with dpkg.

Alternatively, what's the output of the commands

uname -a
dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image

#224 Re: Installation » ASCII on RPi1 fails to boot » 2019-08-16 04:36:50

Thx for the reply. I doubt the SD card was/is corrupted, as I mentioned the official Raspbian image worked fine on the same SD card. But it's encouraging you got it working, so I'll try again later (perhaps over the weekend). Thx!

#225 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » installation Nextcloud » 2019-08-15 14:38:09

The user "www-data" is the Apache user, so only applies if you're deploying Apache as your web-server. As for multi-user systems, every Linux system is by default a multi-user system, but most human users will never know, nor have the need to wink

As for the user-permissions issue mentioned by the OP, there's a fairly simple solution: use a live-cd from your distro (I assume Devuan in this case). Boot your system into the live-cd modus and start a terminal. Then, assuming your entire system is on one SATA disk in a single partition (sda1):

mkdir /tmp/devuan-rescue
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/devuan-rescue
cd /tmp/devuan-rescue
chown -R root:root ./*

This creates a temp. directory, then mounts the entire system in that and changes the ownership of all files to root as part of the group root. That should allow you to log back in (as root, obviously) into the system and restore file permissions from there. See also

man chown

This'll list you the various options and correct syntax of the command.

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