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#1376 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 14:21:55

To revert to the old behavior of su, put the following line in /etc/default/su

ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes

Note: you could put that line in /etc/login.defs instead, but then you may get a useless error message when you log in.

#1377 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-08 20:04:54

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

Why, then, my recently installed copy of beowulf contains

http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged

in file

/etc/apt/sources.list

???

Installation was performed by using debootstrap.

What URL did you use in the debootstrap command? I just tried it using deb.devuan.org, and that's what shows up in sources.list.

Oh! I just tried it again without giving debootstrap any URL, and it hits pkgmaster.devuan.org. That makes perfect sense - that is the main repo that gets copied to all the mirrors. We ask people to use deb.devuan.org so that the load gets spread out over all the mirrors.

#1378 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-08 12:02:24

danista wrote:

I installed XFCE4 and lightdm. On the welcome screen, where you need to enter a username and password, the buttons for shutting down and rebooting are inactive at the top right. How to make them active? Maybe I missed something from the installation packages?

Here's the fix for lightdm power buttons that we're currently recommending. This will be in the final version of the release notes.

Power buttons are disabled in lightdm login screen with elogind.
(See Debian bug #932047)

Add the following line to /etc/pam.d/lightdm-greeter

     session   optional pam_elogind.so

#1379 Re: Installation » How do I make a triple-boot system, starting with Devuan? » 2020-04-04 14:43:20

To deal with the problem of grub not finding the other encrypted systems, you can manually create boot entries in /etc/grub.d/40_custom, and they will be added to the boot menu when you run update-grub.

If you accidentally lose it by installing grub from another system, it's possible to boot from grub command line. Use the /dev/mapper name for the root partition on the linux line. Then you can either run grub-install or run efibootmgr and remove the offending bootloader. (Or maybe re-order the bootloaders - mine won't do that.)

#1380 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-03 13:12:23

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:

I am trying another test install, this time using ASCII as host.
I've used ASCII debootstrap, specified beowulf as suite.
Now I'm trying to update-grub from the chroot, and I'm getting the dreaded
/dev/sdX not initialized after 100000000000 microseconds message.

UPDATE: message does not seem to go away even after waiting for about 15 minutes.
UPDATE2: message goes away but takes a very long time.
Running grub-mkconfig took about an hour.

Before entering the chroot:

mkdir chroot-dir/run/udev
mount --bind /run/udev chroot-dir/run/udev

That will get rid of the repeated warnings on update-grub.

#1381 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-04-02 10:21:43

Roger wrote:

It seems to recommended for the 4.19.0 kernel, not a dependency, so I don't think dist-upgrade should be insisting on it. I moved to Devuan because I did not want to be told how I ought to do things.

Recommends are installed by default, same as in Debian. To disable that:

apt-get --no-install-recommends install <package>

Or add the following to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00norecommends

APT::Install-Recommends "no";

#1382 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Using redshift » 2020-04-01 20:51:32

I don't remember how to get it to work automatically, but I know it needs geoclue-2.0 installed. I disabled that after one day and just use it manually. You can test with something like redshift -o -P -O 4800. If that doesn't work, I'll take a wild guess and say it's the nvidia driver. In that case, check nvidia-settings for a way to change the screen temp.

#1383 Re: Other Issues » [solved] firejail + firefox sound issue » 2020-03-31 16:57:12

Good job! That worked. Commenting 'nogroups' fixed it. I tried commenting 'noroot' but that didn't help.

#1384 Re: Devuan » Beowulf » 2020-03-31 12:18:51

I think it's been ready since December. Read what others are saying:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3372

#1385 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Python3.8 / Testing? » 2020-03-31 12:16:50

$ apt-cache policy python3.8
python3.8:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.8.2-1
  Version table:
     3.8.2-1 50
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
         50 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages

chimaera won't be any more stable than ceres until debian bullseye goes into freeze. Some of the packages we fork are being made ready for ceres now, and they will migrate into chimaera pretty quickly when they're done.

Check all the usual suspects for desktop power control (shutdown/reboot/hibernate). (policykit, libpam-elogind, upower...)

#1386 Re: Other Issues » [solved] firejail + firefox sound issue » 2020-03-31 11:37:31

Confirmed. I can reproduce this in a beowulf nodbus live iso.

In another live iso with xfce and dbus, sound in firefox-esr works with or without firejail.

I don't really know how to debug this. Maybe something in the firejail profile files would give a clue, or maybe running with strace would show something.

#1387 Re: Installation » Issues with Broken Packages and Updating » 2020-03-30 18:04:59

Disable the cdrom repository and enable the following repos:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii          main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates  main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main

You can either do it in Synaptic or manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list. Then update/refresh the package cache.

#1388 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Python3.8 / Testing? » 2020-03-29 12:42:55

python3.8 is also in chimaera (our next testing when beowulf goes stable).

ceres=sid=unstable

#1390 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 22:05:52

That's really weird. I've installed refractasnapshot in beowulf a few times. And isolinux is a real package.

$ apt-cache policy isolinux
isolinux:
  Installed: 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1
  Candidate: 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1
  Version table:
 *** 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Make sure you have all three lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt update'

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main

If that isn't the problem, try installing syslinux and isolinux first, then install refractasnapshot.

#1391 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 19:57:05

If there was more to the refractasnapshot message, I'd like to see it. The syslinux dependency is as follows:

syslinux (< 3:6.03)  |  syslinux (>= 3:6.03), syslinux (< 3:6.03) | isolinux (>= 3:6.03)

It's been like that for a few years. (Translation: syslinux older than 6.03, which included isolinux, or both syslinux and isolinux at least version 6.03)

The non-pae kernel is default for those with old machines. The linux-headers package is in the iso, but it does not get installed by default. That's standard for debian and consequently for devuan.

You probably need to remove or purge the pavucontrol package to get rid of the .desktop file.

#1392 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 15:37:20

I burned the 3/25 iso to dvd, booted and got the udev warning. Pressing alt-F2 does nothing. Really nothing. I can't change to another tty. Pressinc ctrl-c seems to stop the warnings.

On another machine, I booted from a usb that has a regular install from a netinstall iso on it. When I got to the desktop, the keyboard was not working. Unplug/replug the keyboard fixed it.

Update: boot dvd on laptop, keyboard doesn't work, trackpad and trackpoint don't work. Can't unplug them.

#1393 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » upgrade python3 on devuan ascii / howto install » 2020-03-27 11:45:18

You probably need to change a symlink or two - the one for /usr/bin/python and /usr/bin/python3 would be my best guess.

Here's what I have in ascii:

$ ls -l /usr/bin/python*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 24  2017 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 24  2017 /usr/bin/python2 -> python2.7
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3779512 Sep 26  2018 /usr/bin/python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 Jan 20  2017 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4751184 Sep 27  2018 /usr/bin/python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4751184 Sep 27  2018 /usr/bin/python3.5m
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      10 Jan 20  2017 /usr/bin/python3m -> python3.5m

It is safer to download the packages and then install them. Do not add debian repos to sources.list or you might break your system.

#1394 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-27 01:34:31

Fri Mar 27 00:35:43 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:35:54 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda1 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.
Fri Mar 27 00:36:04 2020:   WARNING: Device /dev/sda2 not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.

I've been informed that when you get these repeating messages, you can make them stop by switching to tty2 and then back to tty1.

Press
alt-F2 and then alt-F1

#1395 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-26 09:10:19

aus9 wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

snip

apt purge pulseaudio avahi-daemon
apt autoremove

is easy.

Hi

Won't that break wireless printing setup that uses avahi?

Maybe. If you're using avahi, you shouldn't remove it. Same goes for pulseaudio.

#1396 Re: Installation » Ascii to Beowulf Upgrade » 2020-03-26 02:43:27

It's normal for everything to be upgraded when you dist-upgrade from one major release to the next. It's also normal for there to be some new packages. That happens because package dependencies or priorities sometime change, or a source package that creates several binaries might get split up differently, and you'll get new names. (e.g. cryptsetup-run is a new one)

You should update again after installing a new keyring. I didn't think it worked without doing that.

#1397 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 18:14:55

Thanks. It does help to know what won't fix it.

#1398 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 15:21:55

I made another desktop-live iso with changes that I hope will address the udev delays. If anyone who was getting messages like the one below could test the new iso, it would be a big help. Thanks.

"device /dev/sd<x> not available in udev database even after waiting for 1000000 microseconds.<another timeout>"

https://get.refracta.org/files/experime … p-live.iso

sha256sum
822ed7c7d3c456e60ba4041e8b2d43891c6853739b5fdcb16527eb041dbfe21e  devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_beta_2020-03-25_amd64_desktop-live.iso

#1400 Re: Installation » Experiences with Beowulf Beta Desktop Iso » 2020-03-22 19:51:09

You should be able to boot the dvd, go into rescue mode, get a network connection and install grub-efi-amd64. You don't need the -signed version unless you're using secure boot.

All the installation media (including desktop-live) boot with grub on uefi and boot with isolinux on bios. If you can't tell the difference by looking at them, you can test:
Press TAB to edit the boot command in isolinux.
Press e to edit the boot command in grub.
Press ESC to return to the boot menu - this one is the same for both.

If you're already booted into the system, check to see if /sys/firmware/efi exists. If it does, you booted in uefi mode.

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