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#1101 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-03 20:41:29
Well done! Thank you all for your work.
rolfie
#1102 Re: News & Announcements » Updating Sources to Beowulf stable » 2020-06-01 21:16:29
Yes, on apt update that works fine. I rarely use Synaptic. cli is fine for me.
rolfie
#1103 Re: News & Announcements » Updating Sources to Beowulf stable » 2020-06-01 20:47:31
Don't care if you have explicitely stated Beowulf and not stable in your sources.list. The message comes once, and then its fine.
rolfie
#1104 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-06-01 14:49:16
How to add backports: give https://devuan.org/os/packages a read.
rolfie
#1105 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-06-01 10:04:50
Maybe you mix up 4.9 and 4.19? linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64 is the latest Beowulf/Buster kernel, any 4.9-kernel is ASCII/Stretch. The 4.19er should start automatically.
For very new hardware, it may be an useful option to add backports to the sources.list and to install the 5.5 kernel from there.
rolfie
#1106 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-23 21:13:57
Look at the Release Notes. You got the following issue:
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 <> elogind re. libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0
Let your old VBox go, and re-install the latest version from Oracle directly.
rolfie
#1107 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-05-23 15:40:33
Some input to UEFI/CSM. The OP obviously has a brandnew toy, so we can assume the BIOS is fully UEFI compliant.
CSM = traditional BIOS support can be enabled, then the boot disk should be MSDOS partitioned. When you boot the CD don't use the entry that says UEFI before the drives name.
Though I would recommend to use UEFI. Set the drive settings to UEFI driver first or similar, and disable CSM. Secure Boot to Other OS. The boot drive needs to be GPT partitioned. Boot the install CD with the UEFI label before the drives name.
If these dependencies are observed, it should be possible to easily install Beowulf, may be at first with a wired LAN connection to avoid any issues with wifi.
rolfie
#1108 Re: Installation » [Closed] Problems with Beowulf as second OS on a SSD » 2020-05-22 19:05:16
Late feedback: Beowulf (fresh install from beta3 Desktop DVD) works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:
This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10
I have learned that the bios 1407 supplied by ASUS insists on telling a PCIe3 GPA as non-efi compatible and switches on CSM. That causes some glitches during the installation. I am still fighting with the hotline, waiting for a fix. The 5500 runs fine without CSM now.
rolfie
Edith: corrected link URL
#1109 Re: Installation » [Solved at last] Issues with very new hardware » 2020-05-22 19:00:19
Late feedback: Beowulf works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:
This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10
rolfie
#1110 Re: Installation » upgrade build-essential » 2020-05-22 09:31:25
Why do you want to upgrade? Something not working? This is what I have on ASCII too, and it does the job: building kernel modules for VBox. build-essential is a package of tools with a lot of dependencies, so you can't simply upgrade one component.
You may consider upgrading to Beowulf if you want more recent stuff.
rolfie
#1111 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-21 08:46:37
Some general thoughts to optical drives and media: my feeling is that todays drives are crap. You can buy BR drives that claim to support CD & DVD. My experience is that when i.e. I start a gparted life cd in such a BR drive as I have installed on the X570 MB I'm getting lots of IO errors. Sometimes gparted works, sometimes it doesn't. Same with other media, i.e. Beowulf desktop iso. Booting same media in older drives works fine.
On the modern HW I only use USB as boot media, never had issue like with these BR drives.
@fsmithred: does it make sense to try the desktop RC install iso on DVD (not the live version)? Does feedback on that help you?
rolfie
#1112 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-05-21 08:10:27
Some thoughts: The computer seems to be starting, then the screen gors blank. May be the graphics card isn't supported or requires some firmware to work? The kvm group message is just an information that virtualisation isn't enabled in the Bios. That won't stop the boot on real HW.
@OP: its about time to disclose real details about HW and SW. What kinda HW we are talking about? MB and CPU brand please. Graphics card installed? What is lspci | grep VGA telling you? What is "BeoWulf 3.0.0 64bit"???? arm64??? amd64? beta1, beta2, RC or older?
rolfie
#1113 Re: Other Issues » "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" » 2020-05-20 20:17:03
And for the third time WHERE DO I FIND 'config.log'? FILE MANAGER HAS NO SEARCH FUNCTION SO I NEED TO ASK YOU.
My dear take_a_number, please take a number and wait until you are the first in line to be served (which never may happen). Who are you to SHOUT AT US and to DEMAND answers? We are a bunch of volunteers interested in Devuan and how it is working, and we reserve the right which aspect of a post and what we like to answer and to ignore what we don't want to reply to. So please control your language.
For your benefit: The core of Devuan probably is 3% of Debian making it free of systemd, the rest is Linux and Debian and Desktop Environments etc. Your problems to find a file is a typical Linux/DE problem and nothing Devuan specific. Please use the $Search-machine$ of your preference/trust to find the answer. Maybe the file simply does not exist?
Take care, rolfie
Glad to be on Devuan!
#1114 Re: Other Issues » "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" » 2020-05-19 11:17:09
Tried $ which gcc. Nothing happened, not even an error message. No idea how to interpret that.
That tells you exactly that the Live CD has no gcc installed.
I guess you need to re-consider your approach, it will not work without having the required tools on board.
rolfie
#1115 Re: Installation » Trouble getting internet to work. » 2020-05-17 18:45:28
Try to install linux-image-4.9-amd64 4.9+80+deb9u10~deb8u1, this package is available in Jessie-Security.
It should pull the latest 4.9 kernel.
rolfie
#1116 Re: Installation » Beowulf – Network Interface Order » 2020-05-15 15:11:48
I have some Beowulf versions running, never had the need to change the network names, all eth0 and not the new nonsense.
rolfie
#1117 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-11 18:26:43
beta3 live isos have been uploaded.
Use the beta3 netinstall for an encrypted LVM offline installation to command line. Polished the sources.list, made the network available and installed my preferred DE. Perfect install, all previous issues I had are resolved.
A very big "Well Done" to the Devuan team.
rolfie
#1118 Re: Installation » First time install; how do I access rest of packages on DVD(on usb) » 2020-05-09 08:17:55
Thanks, that finally gives at least bit of facts and background to be able to help. You were not disclosing very much in the beginning? We could have been further with a bit more information.
Lets summarise: you successfully got a graphical desktop installed offline from an ASCII DVD and can log in. Not bad. Would you mind telling us which DE you are using? I am Mate user and can support with questions around this, XFCE and others is not my topic.
You do not mind to set up networking? Then first of all lets solve this bit, then we can attack the access to the Devuan repos as second step.
What do you want to use? Wired/wifi? Fixed IP adress or DHCP, IP4/6? Any specials? Any network manager running?
Key setup is in /etc/network/interfaces. Nameserver has to be set in /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts may be useful. Please post the entries there in this thread if you do not get along.
Are you at least a bit familiar on how to get to a root terminal?
rolfie
Edit: something to read. Its from Debian, but most of the stuff is valid for Devuan too.
https://www.debian.org/doc/index.en.html
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … ex.en.html
https://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage
https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfigur … ion%5Cb%29
#1119 Re: Installation » First time install; how do I access rest of packages on DVD(on usb) » 2020-05-08 09:58:47
Beginner or troll? Can't remember ever having had a not signed message. You are talking in general terms and not telling us the exact command and message and boundary conditions. Please show us your sources.list and the result from apt update. This way we can help. I might also help to understand your intentions. Why do you want to access SW from DVD instead of downloading the up to date stuff from the internet?
Anyhow: which DVD did you use? Complete name or download source.
sources.list readings:
https://devuan.org/os/
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3276
Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from your box?
rolfie
#1120 Re: Installation » First time install; how do I access rest of packages on DVD(on usb) » 2020-05-06 20:21:36
I already went for a workaround that raised some new questions. I managed to get a connection from my new minibox, to the internet and connected to repos on devuan. When I did, found they were not signed either, but there, I was given option to continue anyway. What I don't get is why I wasn't offered that option on my local USB copy of it(?).
What exactly did you do? sources.list update? HOW did you connect to Devuan? What were the error messages? Please post them here.
rolfie
#1121 Re: Installation » [Solved] Grub issues with Beowulf beta » 2020-05-03 19:08:31
Back earlier than I thought. Tried the suggestion in my latest VM, it is easy to implement (easier and faster than I thought) and it works.
Thank your for your suggestion. The only question remains: how update-proof is this fix? I remember the cryptdisk.functions patch that never made it upstream. The situation is slightly different since desktop-base is Devuan only, but you never know.
Have a nice weekend and stay safe, rolfie
#1122 Re: Installation » No Sound in Devuan-ascii » 2020-05-03 19:01:34
As to ~/.asoundrc file this is unknown to me. Where does this go.
Let me translate: ~/ represents your home directory. A file with a period in front is a hidden file.
And I tried to install gas mixer but can't find it anywhere.
The package is called Q A S M I X E R. Just use small letters and no blanks.
Good luck, rolfie
#1123 Re: Installation » [Solved] Grub issues with Beowulf beta » 2020-05-01 19:11:30
What do you mean when you say the issue was solved?
I was reffering to my copy/paste problem with the text from grub.cfg from the VM. At first I just posted the text body description I prepared, made a break since a fast re-install of the guest additions did not help, and left a note that I would add the code later. When reading this again I saw its mis-understandable without the background, so I polished my test a bit.
I can reproduce the problem, and it seems to be coming from the grub scripts, but I haven't tracked it down completely.
.......
Edit(dunno - 6 or 7 now?): I think I can change desktop-base to put the theme in /boot/grub, but that won't happen in time for beowulf release. Maybe for point-release later.
Will give your suggestions a try. Feedback may take a while because I am dragged into a serious professinal problem that wil take priority for a while. Thank you for listening.
rolfie
#1124 Re: Installation » [Solved] Grub issues with Beowulf beta » 2020-05-01 10:04:53
Back to the grub issue with encrypted installations.
Done another VM install from the desktop DVD iso in Bios mode, traditionally encrypted with separate unencrypted /boot, lightdm and Mate. I can re-produce the issue, it does not depend on efi mode. The grub.cfg resulting from this install looks like this (relevant parts cut out and posted here):
if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UTzSSs-6Jtx-2mf7-ug6f-YUYG-2f5Y-MoUl9G'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UT$
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2386d536-a213-4be4-8ac5-5b2a1d658982
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi
if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=de_DE
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UTzSSs-6Jtx-2mf7-ug6f-YUYG-2f5Y-MoUl9G'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UT$
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2386d536-a213-4be4-8ac5-5b2a1d658982
fi
insmod gfxmenu
loadfont ($root)/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/cinnabar-grub/unifont-regular-16.pf2
insmod png
set theme=($root)/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/cinnabar-grub/theme.txt
export theme
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
set timeout=30
else
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=5
fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###Please note that the set root lines are doubled and get the Cinnebar settings amended. This is the issue.
After removing desktop-base and running an update-grub the issue is gone. grub.cfg now looks like this:
if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UTzSSs-6Jtx-2mf7-ug6f-YUYG-2f5Y-MoUl9G'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/BdBH9u-yJ7u-C6oR-MHyE-4N6Y-9COS-i7orqi/UT$
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2386d536-a213-4be4-8ac5-5b2a1d658982
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi
if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=de_DE
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
set timeout=30
else
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=5
fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###desktop-base takes some influence on the process behind update-grub, no idea how. Its an issue for encrypted installs, no matter if efi or bios mode.
Side notes:
* The installer offers as well the 4.19.0-6 as the 4.19.0-8 kernel. Does this make sense?
* The installer asks for grub to be installed in the efi removable path despite normal bios/CSM mode?
rolfie
Note: solved my copy/paste problem getting the grub.cfg lines from the VM after lunchbreak by re-installing the guest additions (had to do it twice to get it working).
#1125 Re: Installation » [Solved] Grub issues with Beowulf beta » 2020-05-01 09:50:18
Note that the smallest installer iso to use for offline installation is called "server" iso.
The "netinstall" iso is purely intended for an installation that downloads packages from the net. Its pool (on beta2) is only that of "debootstrap minbase".
Dear Ralph, thanks for reminding me, I have read this statement before. You guys and girls make the decisions. Does not mean that I agree. I think its a pity that you do not catch two birds with a stone by dropping one or two small packages.
My statement as a happy user of Devuan: I have used the ASCII netinstall and the temporarily available Beowulf mini-isos for offline CLI installations, and I am disappointed that this does no more work.
End of discussion, thank you for your engagement into this project.
rolfie
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