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Outlook to Chimaera: there the issue is fixed.
rolfie
@ralph.ronquist: thanks for intervening. I am a few years older even than the OP....
@OP: Yes, a GUI installer could be a bit more comfortable in some areas. ASCII as the previous release had one, and Debian also has it. But you need to understand that Devuan is run with a very small team of developers, and its simply lack of resource that the GUI was dropped for Beowulf. And I can support the decision to drop the GUI installer, its more important to get the release rolling.
The firmware issues are also due to Debian/Devuan philosophy. A lot of firmware is propriatry stuff in non-free, you have to enable it. You will need to get acustomed to that speciality.
rolfie
Making a NAVI based GPU work under Beowulf without the PRO driver
The latest AMD GPUs like an RX5300, RX5500, RX5600 or RX5700 require a kernel >= 5.4 and latest firmware to support NAVI10 re. NAVI14 chipsets. Suitable kernels are available in backports. The latest firmware available in the Debian/Devuan repos across all suites is dated 2019-07-17 which is too old. Special action is required.
Install Beowulf at least to command line level. Myself had the privilegue to have an older AMD GPU around which I used to install a full graphical desktop, in my case Lightdm/Mate.
All commands need to be run as root.
To be able to install a new kernel add this line to your sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free
Then run
# apt update
# apt list linux-image-5.*
or
# apt list linux-image-5.5*
Currently you may find 5.4.0-0.bpo.2, 5.4.0-0.bpo.3, 5.4.0-0.bpo.4 and 5.5.0-0.bpo.2 kernels in backports. This may change over time. Install:
# apt install linux-image-5.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
Get the latest firmware from the linux kernel pages on github and copy it to the right place:
# apt install git
# cd /tmp
# git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
# cd linux-firmware/
# cp -va amdgpu/ /lib/firmware/
This update of the initramfs is very important.
# update-initramfs -u
# reboot
Enjoy your new graphics.
rolfie
@fsmithred: I am sorry, looks like I need to explain where I am coming from.
You posted a thread about support for a RX5600 with the PRO driver package. HOAS answered that there is a way without this driver. I just wanted to confirm that I managed to get a RX5500 working without this driver which uses a chipset out of the same family. Navi10 and Navi14 should behave similar. Both threads linked naturally show all the detours, dead ends and uturns taken.
If desirable I could try to condense that to what is really required (as far as I remember. Slowly getting old...).
rolfie
Only if you have specified stable in your sources.list. I can confirm that there is little movement on ASCII.
Here is some lecture: https://devuan.org/os/packages
rolfie
Yes, I can confirm it still works and is required for new installs.
rolfie
Have you ever used all 4 Debian DVDs for an offline install? I never have needed anything else but the "desktop" DVD.
rolfie
@bimon: simply use the Download link on the top of the forum page and look at what you find there. Is this what you desire?
rolfie
@fsmithred: have a look at these two threads:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3461 and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3358.
Got an AMD RX5500 working with Beowulf/EFI/Mate/5.5 kernel from backports. I used the way to load the firmware as described in the linked bugreport, and an update-initramsfs past that, and it worked.
Try it with your RX5600, rolfie
Well done! Thank you all for your work.
rolfie
Yes, on apt update that works fine. I rarely use Synaptic. cli is fine for me.
rolfie
Don't care if you have explicitely stated Beowulf and not stable in your sources.list. The message comes once, and then its fine.
rolfie
How to add backports: give https://devuan.org/os/packages a read.
rolfie
Maybe you mix up 4.9 and 4.19? linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64 is the latest Beowulf/Buster kernel, any 4.9-kernel is ASCII/Stretch. The 4.19er should start automatically.
For very new hardware, it may be an useful option to add backports to the sources.list and to install the 5.5 kernel from there.
rolfie
Look at the Release Notes. You got the following issue:
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 <> elogind re. libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0
Let your old VBox go, and re-install the latest version from Oracle directly.
rolfie
Some input to UEFI/CSM. The OP obviously has a brandnew toy, so we can assume the BIOS is fully UEFI compliant.
CSM = traditional BIOS support can be enabled, then the boot disk should be MSDOS partitioned. When you boot the CD don't use the entry that says UEFI before the drives name.
Though I would recommend to use UEFI. Set the drive settings to UEFI driver first or similar, and disable CSM. Secure Boot to Other OS. The boot drive needs to be GPT partitioned. Boot the install CD with the UEFI label before the drives name.
If these dependencies are observed, it should be possible to easily install Beowulf, may be at first with a wired LAN connection to avoid any issues with wifi.
rolfie
Late feedback: Beowulf (fresh install from beta3 Desktop DVD) works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:
This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10
I have learned that the bios 1407 supplied by ASUS insists on telling a PCIe3 GPA as non-efi compatible and switches on CSM. That causes some glitches during the installation. I am still fighting with the hotline, waiting for a fix. The 5500 runs fine without CSM now.
rolfie
Edith: corrected link URL
Late feedback: Beowulf works fine on X570/Ryzen 7 3700X/RS5500XT/backports kernel 5.5 when you know how to get the Navi14 firmware to work:
This link give the requried input: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … =952710#10
rolfie
Why do you want to upgrade? Something not working? This is what I have on ASCII too, and it does the job: building kernel modules for VBox. build-essential is a package of tools with a lot of dependencies, so you can't simply upgrade one component.
You may consider upgrading to Beowulf if you want more recent stuff.
rolfie
Some general thoughts to optical drives and media: my feeling is that todays drives are crap. You can buy BR drives that claim to support CD & DVD. My experience is that when i.e. I start a gparted life cd in such a BR drive as I have installed on the X570 MB I'm getting lots of IO errors. Sometimes gparted works, sometimes it doesn't. Same with other media, i.e. Beowulf desktop iso. Booting same media in older drives works fine.
On the modern HW I only use USB as boot media, never had issue like with these BR drives.
@fsmithred: does it make sense to try the desktop RC install iso on DVD (not the live version)? Does feedback on that help you?
rolfie
Some thoughts: The computer seems to be starting, then the screen gors blank. May be the graphics card isn't supported or requires some firmware to work? The kvm group message is just an information that virtualisation isn't enabled in the Bios. That won't stop the boot on real HW.
@OP: its about time to disclose real details about HW and SW. What kinda HW we are talking about? MB and CPU brand please. Graphics card installed? What is lspci | grep VGA telling you? What is "BeoWulf 3.0.0 64bit"???? arm64??? amd64? beta1, beta2, RC or older?
rolfie
And for the third time WHERE DO I FIND 'config.log'? FILE MANAGER HAS NO SEARCH FUNCTION SO I NEED TO ASK YOU.
My dear take_a_number, please take a number and wait until you are the first in line to be served (which never may happen). Who are you to SHOUT AT US and to DEMAND answers? We are a bunch of volunteers interested in Devuan and how it is working, and we reserve the right which aspect of a post and what we like to answer and to ignore what we don't want to reply to. So please control your language.
For your benefit: The core of Devuan probably is 3% of Debian making it free of systemd, the rest is Linux and Debian and Desktop Environments etc. Your problems to find a file is a typical Linux/DE problem and nothing Devuan specific. Please use the $Search-machine$ of your preference/trust to find the answer. Maybe the file simply does not exist?
Take care, rolfie
Glad to be on Devuan!
Tried $ which gcc. Nothing happened, not even an error message. No idea how to interpret that.
That tells you exactly that the Live CD has no gcc installed.
I guess you need to re-consider your approach, it will not work without having the required tools on board.
rolfie
Try to install linux-image-4.9-amd64 4.9+80+deb9u10~deb8u1, this package is available in Jessie-Security.
It should pull the latest 4.9 kernel.
rolfie
I have some Beowulf versions running, never had the need to change the network names, all eth0 and not the new nonsense.
rolfie