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#1 Re: News & Announcements » Amprolla3 is out for testing » 2017-10-21 14:44:26

I changed to pkgmaster.devuan.org 

list my sources.list
#deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main  <---
#deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main

# jessie-security, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main non-free    <---
#deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main
#deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-security main non-free

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main non-free    <---
#deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main non-free

#deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main
#deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jessie contrib
olzeke51@devuan:~$



and got these three updates:   my last update was 10-13

olzeke51@devuan:/$ apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
wpasupplicant/stable-security 2.3-1+deb8u5 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3-1+deb8u4]
xserver-common/stable-security 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 all [upgradable from: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1]
xserver-xorg-core/stable-security 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1]

but I didn't do the devuan-keyring install per
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1671

so I tried to install it and got this -- [last keyring updated on 10-13!!-my last update]

olzeke51@devuan:~$ sudo apt-get install devuan-keyring
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
devuan-keyring is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

is that a bug??  I can report it if you think it is.
I would have assumed a new server would need a new keyring??
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Just trying to shed a little light - on my assumption

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ascii wicd naming issue » 2017-10-17 17:21:22

Thank you Thank you, fsmithred
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google usually came up with sysctrl blah blah
   (which I was pretty sure of being systemd)

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ascii wicd naming issue » 2017-10-17 12:52:17

I edited my original post with this bit of info

EDIT>>> I had to reboot - logging out didn't bring the network up
EDIT>>> and not sure how to stop/start services - more to learn !!

@r.r - you know , I was suspicious of that possibility - but too lazy to try it -
wasn't sure what the timeout was/is

@r.r  - udev/eudev warts  - I like that !!

#4 Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ascii wicd naming issue » 2017-10-16 19:42:05

garyz.dev1
Replies: 7

loaded up my  ASCII32(bit) DVD dated 08-22-17
did a Refracta install from the gui apps menu of XFCE to a sda3 primary partition
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on reboot I couldn't get my WIRED network to connect and don't have wireless
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used to get my network device name (after much playing around)

ip netconf

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my device was named enp2s3 !!!  not eth0
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more playing/hunting around [this is ascii - so its okay]
I had to change some info in this file - be careful - no warranty included
Olzeke51@ascii32:~$ sudo cat /etc/wicd/manager-settings.conf
[sudo] password for Olzeke51:
[Settings]
backend = external
wireless_interface = None
wired_interface = enp2s3
wpa_driver = wext
always_show_wired_interface = True
use_global_dns = False
......

I edited the bold items   [can't bold inside of a code block!]
and now it works - even after a reboot  smile

EDIT>>> I had to reboot - logging out didn't bring the network up
EDIT>>> and not sure how to stop/start services - more to learn !!

FWIW -

Olzeke51@ascii32:~$ apt-cache policy wicd
wicd:
  Installed: 1.7.4+tb2-4
  Candidate: 1.7.4+tb2-4
  Version table:

FWIW #2  - I did an apt update/upgrade  - with 100+ changes and now

Olzeke51@ascii32:~$ uname -a
Linux ascii32 4.9.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linux

HTH someone - I did follow the DNG mailing list (for a while) in re: to network device nameing;
never got the final on what naming scheme Devuan was going to follow.  --ascii appears to use
the newer scheme!

#6 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-08 00:00:04

@greenjeans wrote:

Never understood the use of sudo, on a list of "worst ideas ever for linux" it ranks right up there with dconf and systemd IMO.

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well - as I understand it - Linux is a multi-user system - so someone has to be the boss/admin
Now it is true that most linux downloads are most likely for single user/desktops - so root/sudo becomes a grey area.: IMO
Not sure what the answer is - there is a lot of debate about it
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I am not taking a stand on it

garyz

#7 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-07 23:54:21

thanks @macondo
I didn't have the NOPASSWD in the sudoers file,
(fwiw - I had to 'sudo visude' to modify the file !)

#8 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-07 23:43:14

sudo   - so what do you use for root priviledges??
(I used sudo before I used ubuntu)
I'm in the sudoers file but still have to do the password from time to time
[with the ALL settings in sudoers!}

#9 Re: Installation » fonts » 2017-10-07 23:16:41

AFAIK - the package maintainer/programmer deems then necessary for optimal use.

#10 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ZFS missing init scripts » 2017-10-02 00:12:59

I think you would get an earlier answer if you went to
the irc channel #devuan-dev(s) ?? 
or just #devuan
HTH -gz

#11 Re: Off-topic » free software alternative to Teamviewer? [SOLVED] » 2017-09-12 19:27:02

@fungus - that was

initial_helpee_password="milpassword"
helpee_password_save_file=$HOME/.helpee_password

#12 Re: Installation » Adding packages require CD-ROM? » 2017-09-11 19:06:29

My experience is like @nobodyuknow  - the cd rom stays enabled - and there are two lines
one is commented out and the other right below it.
I just took it as part of the cd install
[that being said - I usually choose not network install as I feel the CD loads the basic sytem
faster than downloading. 
' then I comment the "cdrom" source and get the rest via the standard locations

#13 Re: Off-topic » recordmydesktop: testing it, because it doesn't require pulseaudio? » 2017-09-08 14:52:28

MiyoLinux wrote:

    greenjeans wrote:

        vlc v4l2://

        trying to see if this universally works

    I've never seen that command before though. I won't be able to try it out until tomorrow though. Grrr...

    Thanks greenjeans!

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I tried this on my Jessie 1.0

olzeke51@devuan:~$ vlc v4l2://
VLC media player 2.2.6 Umbrella (revision 2.2.6-0-g1aae78981c)
[000000000132f118] core libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[00007f4c0c000ec8] v4l2 demux error: cannot open device '/dev/video0': No such file or directory
[00007f4c0c000ec8] v4l2 demux error: cannot open device '/dev/radio0': No such file or directory
[00007f4c0c000ec8] v4l2 access error: cannot open device '/dev/video0': No such file or directory
[00007f4c18000bc8] core input error: open of `v4l2://' failed
olzeke51@devuan:~$

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and when VLC opened up it's gui - I got an error gui popup also :: with the following

Your input can't be opened:
VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2://'. Check the log for details.

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Don't know what I am doing - but hope this helps (muddy the waters??)

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ascii & Ceres lightdm/xorg broken » 2017-09-07 00:13:22

@fungus  - there was a member (iirc  dai_trying ) on the Q4OS forum that did a lot of DM and such testing .
He came up with script to save his home settings - all those 'hidden .rc type files" so that they wouldn't
interfere with each other when he switched.  - He said that sometimes settings would get written over or
deleted and it was a lot of work to 'un-switch'.
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https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1027
HTH - but it might be a little work

#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Security updates for devuan jessie » 2017-09-03 16:03:37

When you folks talk about 'testing' a distro - what do you do??
I load them and run some Internet stuff, check my audio, and a terminal, a 'notepad-type' editor.
ya' know - basic workhorse stuff  - I'm not artistic, musical

Should I be doing - graphics?, playing with different 'themes' and desktop environments?
IMO 'themes' are pretty much a ....  - I know  - Linux is about 'freedom of choice"!!
( 5 or 6 basic color combination is all that is needed )  - - it seems that about 25% of trouble tickets
are related to font size in so-and-so DE, or a panel/menu doesn't fade/overlay/align!!
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Well wait a minute - Gary  :: Linux has a work side and a fun size   -- OKAY - back on track
It is a question - I want to try and help Devuan debug ascii and ceres .
TIA

#16 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] pkexec authenticates without password » 2017-08-31 16:16:00

Well, did a little reading on "so many policykits"
I learned that program starting is a 2 step process (at least)  - very simplified
step 1 -PAM (/etc/pam.d)  Authenticates  who you are
step 2 -Polkit - Authorizes what you can do/run   - based upon being 'Authenticated'
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I didn't get an answer as to why so many "polkits"  -- unless they are a wrapper for
the official Polkit  --[ie creates the  PAM files and policy files for their respective programs
      mate menu items   /   lxde menu items   /  gnome base structure  /  etc.
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just posted this as aFWIW - shed some possible light on the variations that @fsmithred encountered

#17 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-08-31 00:50:20

according to itsfoss.com

Bottom line: apt=most common used command options from apt-get and apt-cache.

it can also modify apt.conf
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easy 'list'

olzeke51@devuan:~/DOSbox/C$ apt list slim
Listing... Done
slim/stable,now 1.3.6-5+devuan4 amd64 [installed,automatic]

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wicd/system-wide permissions? » 2017-08-31 00:42:31

Not sure how your ~ (home) is setup - but I noticed my.xsession-errors was upto 6.8Mb  !!
I don't have a ~/.xinitrc file - so I must be using a global one. [can't send you a normal user]
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Linux devuan 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u3 (2017-08-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux
with a XFCE desktop, aaaand should be slim loginMgr  - 'which' doesn't report lightdm
'gz

#19 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » preferable add ons firefox for video » 2017-08-31 00:26:04

Does ANYBODY have an idea what it costs to run a DNS server???
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Do the DNS servers check on who is using them?  I thought you could pick any of them for web usage.
I know that if you have your own website that you pay to have it DNS'd.
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@Droidus -- I was surprised by what is going back and forth.  I had Conky going on AntiX-16 and about every
10 secs. I had a 215-byte download reported but no corresponding upload !!!!!
I put "Snort"?? (reminded me of a pig- somehow) on a Windoze machine -WOW
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I wonder if "Matrix" knew what they would start with the  red & blue pills !!

#20 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-08-29 22:08:01

I think the Dell is more popular, but I found the Toshiba to be stronger, at a close 2nd.

#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » on network-manager, how to run bash script before connecting to wifi? » 2017-08-29 21:27:27

Well,  not in my experience area -- but is wicd run by a sysvinit script on startup??
You know - one of the rc.d type files iwth the numbers in the name for the start/kill priority.

#22 Re: Other Issues » Libreoffice update in ASCII » 2017-08-26 12:58:42

@golinux #10 comment  - I must be using the wrong command/information to check...
It shows up (now?) on apt-get and apt-cache

#23 Re: Other Issues » Libreoffice update in ASCII » 2017-08-25 20:54:18

@apprentice - thanks for offering an option,
unfortunately - the wps community site doesn't show/reveal 'abiword' when I do a webpage search.
I did the main page and the front page for the forum, or development
.once In the 'Forum' page there was one reference to 'abiword' per their search algorithm
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I did Libre writer going with the java de-select.

#24 Re: Other Issues » Libreoffice update in ASCII » 2017-08-25 00:07:06

Helped me out also -- it(writer) kept disappearing when I tried to start it.
will try the java thing
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I used to use Abiword on Mepis and AntiX -- is there another option??
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again, thanks  - community helping others - Nice

#25 Re: Other Issues » refracta-tools in experimental :: minor error » 2017-08-24 11:24:07

@fungus  - that error message came up on my (just created) hardddrive version of ascii-32bit.
[not copied or run from usb]
I was running through the gui, had selected the configuration menu choice for both
config files. -

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