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#1 2026-04-22 10:12:13

gfp
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[SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

Since approx. 8 weeks updating of Genuen/Gnuinos packages is disabled.
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
does not work

Are there reasons for that?

Should we wait for the next version, which at the moment only for XFCE is available?

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#2 2026-04-22 11:34:52

ralph.ronnquist
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

What does "does not work" mean? The repository tree seems fine...

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#3 2026-04-22 19:15:24

prospero
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

I am currently able to update && upgrade genuen 6.0 Excalibur.

You may want to check your system time. If it is trailing, your system will see the InRelease file as a mirage from the future and refuse to trust it.

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#4 2026-04-23 12:20:24

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

sudo apt update > update2.txt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

in German:

E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 2 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.
E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.
E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.

sudo apt update > update2.txt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

in English:

E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 2 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.
E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.
E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.

What does that mean?

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#5 2026-04-23 12:23:09

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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

the time shown in the menu is OK. and for setting the time and equalize with the internet server I have to install NTP it said.

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#6 2026-04-23 13:14:21

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

Should I replace the name: gnuinos
with
genuen

in  /etc/apt/sources.list   ?

would that help?

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#7 2026-04-23 13:36:56

prospero
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

You should be using Excalibur.

See https://www.genuen.org.

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#8 2026-04-25 10:12:45

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

How should I do this best?

I changed in /etc/apt/sources.list  from daedalus to excalibur
but
sudo apt update shows
Signation can´t be checked
missing public key.

Holen:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3.630 B]
Holen:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3.442 B]   
Holen:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [3.431 B]   
Holen:4 https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf InRelease [5.649 B]                   
Fehl:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease 
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Fehl:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease

Holen:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3.630 B]
Holen:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3.442 B]
Holen:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [3.431 B]
Get:4 https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf InRelease [5.649 B]
Missing:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Incorrect:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Incorrect:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Package lists are read... Finished
W: GPG error: http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease: The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Fehl:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
W: GPG-Fehler: http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B

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#9 2026-04-25 17:16:14

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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

Use a browser and go to: https://packages.genuen.org/genuen/pool … e-keyring/ Download "genuen-archive-keyring_2025.12.02_all.deb" to a local folder.
Now change to root and do:

dpkg -i /path/to/genuen-archive-keyring_2025.12.02_all.deb

to install a valid signature.
Finally do: 

apt update

and 

apt dist-upgrade

That should work (at least it did for me)

Last edited by ilargi (2026-04-25 17:17:39)

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#10 2026-04-26 11:53:53

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

thanks very much

during installing that message came up:

******************************************************************************
*
* The base-files package cannot be installed because
* /bin is a directory, but should be a symbolic link.
*
* Please install the usrmerge package to convert this system to merged-/usr.
*
* For more information please read https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge.
*
******************************************************************************
I installed "usrmerge"

and run again:

sudo apt dist-upgrade

and then everything went fine.

Excalibur got installed.

But there are several problems.

e.g in KDE (I think it is X11) there are no  apps shown in the starter menu.
other problems I have not yet discovered.

at least  Genuen Excalibur got installed.

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#11 2026-04-26 13:39:51

ilargi
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

Glad you got genuen with Excalibur up and running.
I haven't used KDE for ages and can't help you there. I run openbox + tint2 with obmenu-generator for my menus and it works fine.

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#12 2026-04-26 22:50:45

aitor
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

There have been major updates to vdev, and it's highly recommended to install the latest version 1.3.93

I've updated the iso image as well:

https://www.genuen.org/mirror/excalibur


If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#13 2026-04-26 22:57:33

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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

ilargi wrote:

Glad you got genuen with Excalibur up and running

Hmmm... ilargi means moon in basque


If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#14 2026-04-27 14:24:05

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

installing vdev helped
now KDE X11 and wayland show all applications in the application menu.

thanks your your work

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#15 2026-05-10 15:53:23

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

I reinstalled Genuen but
I can´t update anything.

I downloaded the
genuen-archive-keyring

but can´t run
apt-update.

Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is expired (invalid since 3h 33min 5s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

Even synaptic can´t be opened.
it is installed, but can´t be opened.
That´s why I can´t install
usrmerge

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#16 2026-05-10 16:30:25

chris2be8
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

Please post full output from:
date (I suspect your system clock may be wrong).
uname -a
apt-update

And exactly what happens when you try to open synaptic?

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#17 2026-05-10 16:52:34

aitor
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

I updated the repo


If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#18 Yesterday 14:04:52

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

yes, the time is set incorrectly.
I tried to change that, but there is no option available.
There are no date and time settings in the settings menu.
Also clicking on the time there it shows grey, it means not accessible.
How can I change my time in XFCE?

here are my outputs:

date
Sun May 10 17:59:59 CEST 2026    (but today is Monday not Sunday and the time is also wrong for 2 hours.)
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ uname -a
Linux Tuxedo 6.12.60-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Genuen 6.12.60-1 (2025-12-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ apt-update
bash: apt-update: command not found
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt-update
[sudo] password for gfp:
sudo: apt-update: command not found
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for gfp:
Get:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3838 B]
Get:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [2998 B]
Get:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3009 B]
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

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#19 Yesterday 16:33:42

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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

I said to try apt-update because that's what you said in post 15. At least you realised what was wrong.

You can set the date with sudo date -s but read the man page for date first, You may find it easier to shut the system down, go into the BIOS and set the date there. Then run date after booting the system.

Once the system date is correct try apt update again. Hopefully it will then work.

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#20 Yesterday 19:03:19

aitor
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

gfp wrote:

yes, the time is set incorrectly

There is a service sync-once in /etc/init.d that runs ntpdate the first time it detects a network connection. Anyway, you can run:

# hwclock --set --date "2026-05-11 21:01"

and

$ date --set "2026-05-11 21:01"

If you work systematically, things will come by itself (Lev D. Landau)

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#21 Today 09:48:25

gfp
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Re: [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled

thanks

# hwclock --set --date "2026-05-11 21:01"

and

$ date --set "2026-05-11 21:01"

worked, I was able to set the time and I can update via terminal.

How can I reinstall "synaptic" because it does not open.

I tried:
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt-get synaptic
[sudo] password for gfp:
E: Invalid operation synaptic
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ synaptic &
[1] 19785
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ bash: synaptic: command not found

[1]+  Exit 127                synaptic
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ synaptic
bash: synaptic: command not found

It seems that it started somehow, but I can´t get it.
What is the correct name for it to install it again?

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