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#1 2026-03-27 19:37:12

JnvSor
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[SOLVED] Trouble migrating from sid to ceres

My daily driver is a long-running sid install I've been putting off migrating for too long now. Following the installation steps I get a number of 404 errors. Seems some packages are missing and update and upgrade aren't in sync:

E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/i/isl/libisl23_0.27-2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/m/mpfr4/libmpfr6_4.2.2-3_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/m/mpclib3/libmpc3_1.3.1-3_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/d/dwz/dwz_0.16-4_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libf/libffi/libffi-dev_3.5.2-4_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libf/libffi/libffi8_3.5.2-4_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libf/libffi/libffi8_3.5.2-4_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/g/gssdp/libgssdp-1.6-0_1.6.4-6_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:638:a000:1021:21::1 80]

A quick browse through the pool shows a version very close to this is in there for the first one, so I presume they'll just land in ceres after a delay. Is that correct or is there something I have to actually fix here?

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#2 2026-03-27 20:56:22

golinux
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Registered: 2016-11-25
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Re: [SOLVED] Trouble migrating from sid to ceres

FWIW . . . I have never heard of anyone trying to migrate from sid (Debian unstable) to ceres (Devuan unstable). sid and ceres are not "releases". They are the "unstable" branches of their respective distributions.

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#3 2026-03-27 21:17:40

brocashelm
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Re: [SOLVED] Trouble migrating from sid to ceres

While Ceres isn't a "real" Devuan release, it is still the foundation of every new release. The more folks who use Ceres, the more they can help Devuan's developers and maintainers.

I don't track Ceres anymore (I switched it to Daedalus in early 2023 when it was in the testing freeze), but anytime I ran into an issue like that (i.e. unmet dependencies due to a package unavailability), waiting it out for up to a week usually solved the issue. My understanding is that Amprolla (what makes Devuan's repositories) runs several hours behind Debian's servers.

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#4 2026-03-27 22:49:57

JnvSor
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Re: [SOLVED] Trouble migrating from sid to ceres

My understanding is that Amprolla (what makes Devuan's repositories) runs several hours behind Debian's servers.

I figured it was something like that. Thanks!

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#5 Yesterday 04:44:29

ralph.ronnquist
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Registered: 2016-11-30
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Re: [SOLVED] Trouble migrating from sid to ceres

Amprolla synchronizes repo versions bi-minutely, i.e. every 2 minutes. It also runs "collections synchronization" daily, and a major cleanup weekly.

Note that "Devuan repositories" comprise *meta files* only. It is those that "define" the Devuan repositories. They have the "pointers" (URLs) to the deb files that one install, and most debs are directly sourced from Debian's package pools.

The Devuan package pools have a comparatively small number of packages that replace and add to the Debian package pools. Those that are forks of same-named Debian packages are of course regularly behind their origins, since it takes developer effort to roll in origin updates.

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