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32bits

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Registered: 2025-07-13

Posts: 44  

actuallization from Ceres impossible

Hi

As I actualize my Ceres install each mounth I try to do it now 48 h along without success. I suppose that my system is endommaged? The content of /etc/apt is changed: the item sources.list appears in "grey" I would say in inactive color.

a. where is actually some ISO to remake complettely my installation?
b. where is the new depository procedere explained if it is one?

The reinstallation of "testing" did be done but the depository seems to be empty of all goodies (espec. of the refracta tools).

c. how to continue in testing and experimental with the usual scope of applications?

(I use an extremelly stripped installation with only xorg jwm lightdm clex ranger alsa refracta tools luakit didiwiki tea hunspell xsane tesseract and gimagereader cups)

d. it seems not possible any more to install ted or some really light text processor?

e. idem concerning granule.

Concerning ranger I have to communicate with our maintener : the build ranger.desktop does not work!

Concerning jwm, it would be better to offer a system.jwmrc with following setting:

«Background type="image">/usr/share/jwm/jwm-red.svg</Background>» ;-))

Concerning the visualisation, a file .Xresources would be helpfull!

Kind regards

stultumanto

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Registered: 2023-12-12

Posts: 79  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

The content of /etc/apt is changed: the item sources.list appears in "grey" I would say in inactive color.

The repository configuration has been moved to the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources, which uses a new format. It contains basically the same information as the old sources.list, it's just broken out into separate lines with descriptive headings.

RedGreen925

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Registered: 2024-12-07

Posts: 179  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

Try this for your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources file.

## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal unstable sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
Suites: unstable
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

Move your /etc/apt/sources.list to /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list to prevent conflicts and be certain only the new file will be used.

DaveT

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Registered: 2019-09-22

Posts: 6  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

Pardon me, but where and when was this documented?
My /etc/apt/sources.list is:-
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres           main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
and it works fine!

ralph.ronnquist

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From: Battery Point, Tasmania, AUS

Registered: 2016-11-30

Posts: 1,486  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

Check out https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

But luckily for us the traditional format still works well. For some reason the "old" format is tagged as "less readable", which is peak nonsense of course.

DaveT

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Registered: 2019-09-22

Posts: 6  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

As I run Ceres I do an update upgrade every time I boot up.
Today 2025 October 8th sudo apt update completed and then asked me to run
sudo apt modernize-sources
So I did. And got the whizzo new format!
Go with the flow and all that, who knows why they changed it.

ALL sources are now in their own files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
so the devaun source is now /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources

I think they are letting young people work on the code... BAD! Leave it to us old farts!

RedGreen925

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Registered: 2024-12-07

Posts: 179  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

I think they are letting young people work on the code... BAD! Leave it to us old farts!

Meh, I like the new format I think the idea is to make it more machine readable. Just for giggles looking at the labels in it I put two repositories  on the single line it updates both of them just fine. Who knows if it will install packages from both or not.

root@9600k:~# agu
Hit:1 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur InRelease
Hit:2 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-backports InRelease         
Hit:3 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-proposed-updates InRelease  
Hit:4 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-updates InRelease           
Hit:5 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur InRelease                      
Hit:6 http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged excalibur-security InRelease          
Hit:7 https://apt.benthetechguy.net/debian trixie InRelease        
Hit:8 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports InRelease
Hit:9 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-proposed-updates InRelease
Hit:10 http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
All packages are up to date.    

root@9600k:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources
# Devuan 6 excalibur
## The new style method of using repositories to install software.
## This /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.sources is new style and location file
## The /etc/apt/old.style.sources.list contains the same as this.
## https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntus-repository-configuration-ubuntu-sources-have-moved-to-etc-apt-sources-list-d-ubuntu-sources

## Normal excalibur sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged http://de.deb.devuan.org/merged
Suites: excalibur excalibur-backports excalibur-proposed-updates  excalibur-updates
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

## excalibur security sources
Types: deb
URIs: http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged
Suites: excalibur-security
Components: main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
Enabled: yes
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg
Architectures: amd64

Edit:

root@9600k:~# alias agu
alias agu='apt update'

Last edited by RedGreen925 (Today 16:33:39)

g4sra

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Registered: 2018-12-12

Posts: 49  

Re: actuallization from Ceres impossible

who knows why they changed it

The current sources.list is not particularly friendly [with multiple bracketed differing options on one line] to being parsed and edited programmatically, hence the new format. Read into that what you want ~ SystemD control is where my money is.