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If at some point you can test openrc, that would be appreciated. I would more likely use it if that were the case.
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Just a heads-up gnuinos.org is currently giving the same page as in https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50515#p50515.
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I am currently getting a timeout when trying the 2025.04.23 xfce runit image on a VM. So the live system would not start, and the installed system also fails to start. I am getting a message about default-syslog, but have no idea whether that is the actual culprit.
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Syslog isn't the culprit, but some of the changes I did in the daedalus version of vdev (chimaera images do work). So, I've found the solution to the problem (at least in qemu) by comparing both releases. Tested with qemu and only in one machine, though. Give me a couple of days and I'll update daedalus images.
Thanks again for your patience and your tests, prospero!
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Hi @aitor.
If I was interested in making an init-diversity spin of GNUinOS, which variant in your opinion would be the most popular to base this on?
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@Prowler_Gr: vdev has been notably improved since my last post, and now it works fine with runit, sysvinit and openrc, whereas s6 is a work in progress.
I'm updating the repository in order to rebuild the iso images as soon as possible.
If I was interested in making an init-diversity spin of GNUinOS, which variant in your opinion would be the most popular to base this on?
Thanks a lot for your interest in gnuinos. Well..., I don't know which would be the most popular. You can email me in private.
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@aitor what do you mean by vdev? ZFS?
Curious.
If you mean ZFS, I think there are better options for Hyperbola, such as HAMMER2.
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@zapper: I'm referring to Jude Nelson's device manager
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@aitor looks interesting... you have a point.
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Syslog isn't the culprit, but some of the changes I did in the daedalus version of vdev (chimaera images do work)
It looks like the live 2025-07-02 xfce runit amd64 image also gets stuck at some point in the startup process in a VM. I thought it might be VM related, so I tried with a live USB and...the live system boots to a full xfce desk.
I will now try to tweak those VM settings and see if it helps. Thank you for the new images!
UPDATE: the system does boot into a graphical session after installing in a VM, but only after switching to tty2 to log in.
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The following images worked for me in qemu:
https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/daedalus/runit/
I'll update the repository tomorrow.
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Thank you! I just gave a try to the latest iso.
In a VM, the live system still ends up with a blinking cursor for at least twenty minutes and counting, after printing various expected messages, the last of which being the default-syslog line mentioned above.
Once installed in a VM through the graphical installer, the system now works without having to switch to tty2 (Alt+F2) in order to boot into a graphical session, but goes through up to five minutes of blinking before getting there. So this is a bit different from the previously reported 7-8 seconds to GUI. The last displayed message during the blinking phase is also about default-syslog. Those three lines look very much like the usual start-up messages, only they keep blinking for a while instead of just being displayed then removed.
gnuinos-5 login: ok: run: dbus: (pid 2176) 1s
ok: run: elogind: (pid 2170) 1s
timeout: run: default-syslog: (pid 2180) 8s
As before, once dd'ed to a USB drive the live iso boots fine into Xfce, so I need to investigate further on the VM side.
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