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yeti

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Registered: 2017-02-23

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

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fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

The 32-bit kernels in excalibur and ceres have been removed. Did anyone happen to save the last deb packages for 686-pae? The last live-iso I made has 6.5 from last April. Not that using those versions is a real solution since they won't get security updates. But it would be nice to have an iso with the last one.

Meanwhile, I've made an excalibur 32-bit live-iso with the daedalus backports kernel. That's another unsatisfactory solution for the same and other reasons, but it does work.

N.B. When trying to upgrade my i386 excalibur VM, aptitude puked on the t64 versions of packages. 'apt upgrade' and 'apt dist-upgrade' worked ok and all the t64 packages got installed.

pcalvert

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Registered: 2017-05-15

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

The 32-bit kernels in excalibur and ceres have been removed. Did anyone happen to save the last deb packages for 686-pae?

This website is likely to be very useful: https://snapshot.debian.org/

It appears that some very recent packages can be found here:
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-security/20250101T021323Z/pool/updates/main/l/linux-6.1/

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fsmithred

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

Perfect! Thanks, I forgot about snapshot.debian.org.

I got linux-image, linux-headers and linux-source for 6.10.9-1 696-pae.

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

@fsmithred, thanks for your continuing efforts! much appreciated.

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mirrortokyo

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Registered: 2021-04-08

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

BTW, I'm attempting a crossgrade from i386 to amd64.

I've been at it for weeks based on a few guides, then someone in irc mentioned the crossgrader package.

I've hit a couple of issues with the crossgrader program and reported them to the maintainer.

mirrortokyo

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Registered: 2021-04-08

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Re: [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news

I have completely removed the i386 architecture from the machine that I upgraded to amd64 - it wasn't easy and it took a long time (nearly 3 weeks), mainly as I was using Ceres and couldn't use the crossgrader package for some of the process and had to obtain amd64 packages at the same version as i386 using debsnap  -d . -a amd64 package-name package-version-number from package devscripts to obtain most of the packages from https://snapshot.debian.org .

For Devuan-specific packages, I used https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html, and in one case had to build the version of avahi packages that I needed from source at https://git.devuan.org/explore/repos searching for the package, then selecting "tags" and downloading the appropriate version of the tar.gz file and apt-get build-dep avahi and debuild -b, also from devscripts to build a package with the same version number.

I had already started the process of cross-grading using the information at https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading and was getting bogged down. One of the linked references, https://anarc.at/services/upgrades/cross-architecture/ was more helpful given my situation.

Having installed enough important amd64 architecture packages under i386 architecture and being able to boot into amd64 architecture was a start, but aptitude doesn't have the capability to easily add packages in a new architecture at the same version as in the old architecture, and dpkg, even after obtaining all the amd64 packages and first installing library packages then everything else, took multiple passes of manually installing packages, getting dependencies matched, and running dpkg --configure -a.

I then had a frozen mouse pointer at the desktop manager login screen when running the boot disk I had upgraded from i386 to amd64, whereas an exiting installation of Devuan/amd64 on the same hardware had no such problem.

The cause was a previously commented out autotune script in the powertop package that must have been re-enabled in the i386 to amd64 upgrade process, and I even found my old Debian bug report about it from over three years ago. Removing the powertop package was the simplest fix.

Last edited by mirrortokyo (2025-01-22 17:01:23)