Several Russian Linux Kernel Maintainers Removed

blackhole · 2024-10-24 08:26:33

This has caused some considerable contoversy already. They could have said "we have to comply with sanctions" and apologised to those affected. Instead there was an extreme lack of transparency, attempts to just bury it in a code commit, and then the following politically charged diatribe:

Torvalds wrote:

Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.
It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything.
And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.
If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news", I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.
As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too.

The reality is that the Linux Foundation pushed this through, but it has not been managed with any sensitivity by Torvalds and Kroah-Hartman.

https://lwn.net/Articles/995186/
https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/ … ulsion_of/
https://theins.ru/en/news/275585

Ron · 2024-10-24 20:08:48

blackhole wrote:

and then the following politically charged diatribe

I don't see any politically charged diatribe, just facts. And I'm about as unbiased as they come.

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DaveT · 2024-10-25 08:24:32

https://www.federalregister.gov/documen … esponse-to

President Biden's Executive Order 14071 dated 6th April 2022 is the root cause of why the Russian maintainers were banned.
more mind-numbing detail at Executive Orders 14024, 14066, 14039, 14068.

Brian Lunduke has a couple of videos here:-
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/6263331 … ers-banned

Essentially, the Linux Foundation had no choice, and it will affect other parts of the FOSS environment too.
Happily OpenBSD is not based in the USA.

stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · 2024-10-25 09:28:49

it is sad though, that after thousands of years, and now with everyone potentially connected intimately via the world wide web, the pogroms continue globally, unabated. shameful really. how long before this type of activity comes to bear upon the thousands of global open-source FOSS projects? Embrace, extend, and extinguish. SystemD. Indeed.

pogrom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom

embrace, extend, extinguish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

systemd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4alc7dIP8M8

stopAI · 2024-10-25 11:26:58

I don't see any politically charged diatribe, just facts. And I'm about as unbiased as they come.

Can't see or just don't want to see?

Ron · 2024-10-25 12:59:16

stopAI wrote:

Can't see or just don't want to see?

Get off your high-horse. Mr. Torvalds was forced to do it. End of story. Unless you want him to go to prison or pay a hefty fine or whatever.

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stopAI · 2024-10-25 15:35:36

Mr. Torvalds was forced to do it.

Yes, I agree. Well said. I just think it's bad when open source programs become political tools...

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