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#1 2024-01-24 05:45:00

rgsidler
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Raspberry Pi 5

Hi folks

I am trying to find a Devuan net-install image for the Raspberry Pi 5 for quite a bit of time now, but didn't find anything.

Does anybody know a way to install Devuan on it?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions smile

Roland

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#2 2024-01-24 18:07:54

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

adding link for possible review

ttps://downloads.raspberrypi.com/raspios_armhf/release_notes.txt


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#3 2024-01-24 19:13:52

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

Is what you want not available from https://arm-files.devuan.org/

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#4 2024-01-24 22:03:56

UnixMan1230
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@golinux Those images are only good up to the Raspberry Pi 4 last I looked.

To the OP, The raspberry Pi 5 *shouldn't* need any special firmware anymore to boot, its all stored on the on-board ROM now. So, potentially, the RPi4 image should/could work, though performance may not be optimal without a kernel built specially for the board.


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#5 2024-01-24 22:58:35

vortex
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

I'm currently updating the nightly build system for RPi images that are uploaded to https://arm-files.devuan.org/RaspberryP … %20Builds/ and this will include RPi5 images. I expect to include chimaera & daedalus RPi5 nightly builds in the next week or so.

For those who can't wait, there is a beta image here http://exaybachay.free2air.net/transfer … 6-1332.zip

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#6 2024-01-25 00:48:04

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

How fast does a raspberry pi 5 run off of a micro sd card btw? I know how sluggish the first one is, but I don't know how fast the other four/five are, depends if you including the zero. smile


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#7 2024-01-25 13:52:16

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@vortex Technically new ARM64 images generated by the builder for the pi4 "bcm2711" can be used to boot the pi3, pi4 and pi5 and any other variant using the same SoC. If you make pi5 "bcm2712" specific images, they can only be used on the pi5.

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#8 2024-01-25 15:09:02

rgsidler
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

Thank you very much for your kind answers. smile

Well, I tried to boot the Pi 5 with an arm64 daedalus-image but got the message that a specific bcm2712.dtb was missing in the device tree sad

Unfortunately I am still stuck at that point.

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#9 2024-01-25 17:32:06

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

I expect you could add it from an official raspios image, if you want, it should sit on the first (DOS) partition...

https://github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-firm … pi-5-b.dtb

(Click on 'view raw')

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#10 2024-01-26 07:14:02

vortex
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@c0rnelius As always, thanks. The build for RPi5 is/will be built for bcm2712.

All the builds in https://arm-files.devuan.org/RaspberryP … %20Builds/ are built using the variant for the specific hardware and archictecture.

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#11 2024-01-26 07:28:07

vortex
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@rgsidler To get up and running now, two options include taking the advice of @Camtaf for adding bcm2712.dtb or try the beta image I posted above which does boot on a RPi5.

On that beta image, I'm currently researching some some odd RPi5 specific behaviour with sddm & KDE rendering before adding images to the arm-files site (as it's likely to impact other desktops in some way).

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#12 2024-01-26 07:48:07

rgsidler
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@vortex / @cOrnelius

Thank you for your support!

I definitely do not want to use RaspiOS, since it depends on systemd. And - since I am clearly not as familiar with Linux as you are — therefore, I appreciate your support very much!

Roland

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#13 2024-01-26 08:22:21

vortex
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@zapper the hardware specific, systemd-less devuan images will be faster than stock generic raspios, but for performance review, check out https://www.phoronix.com/review/raspber … benchmarks

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#14 2024-01-26 12:08:42

rgsidler
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@Camtaf Thank you so much — such a simple solution to solve my problem!

I use Pis for business, but for a presentation screen, the Pi 3B+ is to weak - espeacially, if you use Libreoffice Impress - that will solve the problem!

Sincerely

Roland

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#15 2024-02-03 04:40:08

zapper
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

@Vortex any benchmarks with speed of Reading and writing files and/or copying as well?

Like what speed, etc?

I am sure its faster to use ARM with micro sd than x86 due to the technology being newer.


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#16 2024-05-21 10:18:47

koarrl
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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

Hi to you all!

I just (May 24) purchased a Raspi5 for interest. Wanted to get my Raspi4 devuan boot SSD running and learned that things arent such easy...
It's about my home dokuwiki (plus other tasks) server. I'm currently using a Pi4 booting from SSD, headless minimum daredalus system, no bling-bling. Runs like a charm.

My (maybe quick & dirty) approach to get a devuan-daedalus-bootable-from-SDcard text mode Pi5 was as follows:

- download recent arm64 minimum SDcard image (raspios-bookworm-lite-arm64 from downloads.raspberrypi.com)
- dd that image onto a SDcard
- fdisk that SDcard, delete Linux partition (p2) and create an entirely new one
- mkfs.ext4 that partition
- cp -a the root tree of my devuan-daedalus system SSD running on Pi4 to the empty SDcard partition
- edit /etc/fstab in order to get correct UUIDs for the mountpoints "/boot/broadcom" and "/"
- insert SDcard, power on .. YEAH! IT'S RUNNING!

It's kinda Frankenstein solution, I'm aware. Too much unnecessary bloated stuff on the FAT partition, maybe using a kernel which is not optimized in terms of speed and hardware support.

Next step will be to make this system booting from a USB3 SSD ...
Furthermore I'd like to attach a UPS HAT to the Pi5 because my solar powerplant delivers short blackouts sometimes :-/

Stay tuned, friends!

P.S. booting from the said SDcard via a USB3 adapter is working out-of-the box. Takes some seconds in extra, maybe.
P.P.S. wlan I/F setup still undone

Last edited by koarrl (2024-05-21 10:28:18)

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